: Which Tubing For Rod End Steering?


YJRockBuggy
02-26-2002, 01:40 PM
My Yj has EB axles under it. I swapped in the Dana 44 in the front but am having problems with the steering. When I go to Flat knuckles, I plan on going to Rod ends (Heim Joints). What tubing is strong enought for steering 35" boggers? Should I just weld a nut on the end or thread the tubing or both? I just don't want the tubing to bend in a "U" shape like last weekend (Shown Below). Thanks in Advance.

Shannon

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v5/8/63/52/32086352nywbMYHHPY_ph

AndrewH
02-26-2002, 01:52 PM
use 1 1/4" DOM with .313 wall. just drill out the ends and thread to 3/4" fine. you will never bend this.

YJRockBuggy
02-26-2002, 02:14 PM
BTT

EasyXJ
02-26-2002, 04:10 PM
I hate it when that happens. I can't decide if I want to go with tubing that big/strong. Which do you want to replace, the tie rod or the broken knuckle?

Easy
http://www.siscom.net/~kc8gab/sr/View.jpg

Jason M
02-26-2002, 04:43 PM
1" round stock. 5/8's heims. Not had a problem with it yet but might add a 1.25 .120 wall sleeve to it...

invincibletoy
02-26-2002, 04:49 PM
check out these sites, they make killer steering stuff and may provide some ideas...

http://www.shakerbuilt.com

http://www.kongs4x4.com

Land Crusher
02-26-2002, 04:51 PM
get a arm off of a one ton
or off of a heavy duty 3/4 ton.

I did and you can actualy jack the front end
off the ground
useing this rod

coyote
02-26-2002, 07:09 PM
Checkout the spidertrax, and get 0.25 wall tube with rod end links and inserts and cut to length and weld in inserts with 1.25" or 1.375 can't remember which but you won't bend this and its easy with no tapping, just weld and go...or if you got the length they will do it for you.....

High5
02-26-2002, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Land Crusher
get a arm off of a one ton
or off of a heavy duty 3/4 ton.

I did and you can actualy jack the front end
off the ground
useing this rod

that's funny i can't keep the tie rod on my dana60 straight. :rolleyes:

Rob Kosinski
02-26-2002, 08:58 PM
I use 1.25 DOM with a 3/16th wall. I hand tap it to 3/4..no drilling required.

Realsquash
02-26-2002, 08:59 PM
It looks like your bigger problem is the draglink pushing on the tierod. I'm thinking that if you had smacked a rock it most likely would have bent up.

So I say fix the steering geometry and use a genero tierod again.

Squash

kwrangln
02-26-2002, 09:09 PM
I used 1.25 solid rod, drilled and tapped for 3/4x3/4 rod ends. One of the previous posts was pretty close, never have cared for that linkage design. It works fine when the drag link is parallel to the tie rod, but with lift, it seems like a bit much force being applied down instead of side to side.

SJM
02-26-2002, 09:17 PM
You can check out the steering setup I have on my EB Dana 44 here:

http://members.home.net/stevenjmeyer1/jeep/

So far...so good. Originally built with heims and then redone with TRE's.

--Steve

Brandonw
02-26-2002, 09:34 PM
Im using 1.5 in w.250 wall DOm tube. Got so,e 5/8's heims and tubing adapters from Avalanche. No threading just weld them in. Really strong to.Avalanche Engineering (http://www.avalancheengr.com)

SJM
02-26-2002, 09:45 PM
You can also get that stuff from M.O.R.E if you want to go that route.

--Steve

rochog
02-26-2002, 10:00 PM
I used 1.5" 4140 (solid) for mine. Drilled and taped it to 3/4 and used hiems. it works well so far. :smokin:

Rock Toy
02-26-2002, 10:46 PM
1.5" DOM with .5" wall. Can't bend this:

http://www.sierrarockcrawlers.com/community/rocktoy/Mounted%20Ram1%20(small).jpg

Keith
02-26-2002, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Rock Toy
1.5" DOM with .5" wall. Can't bend this:


Yep, you are probably right. Now it will just bust the :rainbow: rod end on the right side.

rockbound
02-27-2002, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Keith

Yep, you are probably right. Now it will just bust the :rainbow: rod end on the right side.

my thoughts exactly!!!

Eric
02-27-2002, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Rock Toy
1.5" DOM with .5" wall. Can't bend this:



Unless you drilled out the DOM to accept a 7/8" TRE......I don't think you are running 0.5" wall......
1.5" - 0.5" - 0.5" = 0.5" tube ID? Beefy!!!

I thought you had a 1.5" solid rod drilled out for the TREs?