I know a few of you guys run the hams or other types of radios, what real world range and clarity are you getting?

whats the best bargain in a SSB or multi band export radio?

what about cherokee radios?

I would say a cherokee or a Galaxy would be best...both are exports, capable of a wider freq range, with a stronger power output than a standard CB....

or you could go HAM if you want to get your license...

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My favorite is the Uniden HR2510. Very nice but not cheap.

Originally posted by Blackjack
My favorite is the Uniden HR2510. Very nice but not cheap.


Very nice unit. Modify it to transmit on AM and open it up a little bit... Very nice. Bought my last one for $300 opened up and pushing 38 watts. Price is going up steadily since they quit making it though. They came out with a replacement for it, but I can't remember what the hell they called it. Emporer made a look a like also. The Emporer looks more like a 2970, ugly as hell...

My 16 year old Galaxy 2100 is still working quite well. I'd get a Galaxy if this type of radio is what you're after. HR2510 is nice, too, but the clarity of the receive on AM leaves a bit to be desired.
The HR2600 replaced it. It is not modifiable for CB without considerable expense.

For standard CB's, Uniden Grant XL, or Cobra 148GTL(xx) seem to be the best.

My favorite is the Uniden HR2510. Very nice but not cheap.
I've had one of these for 5-6 years, great radio but be carefull mounting it in a trail rig, after knocking the xmit transistor loose on it twice I finnally took it out and put in a cheapie. Probably my fault though, it's hard to mount anything properly in an early toyota.

realistically though, how much better range, can I expect over the normal 40 cb channels under the same conditions?

I understand a little bit about teh sum anbd differencees of the carrier and hte audio signal and sort of that stuff, IM just asking for some real world expereinces of the range of LSB or USB, without an amp, I know they usually do 12-30 watts, vs a CB 4 watts, but I also know that doesnt translate into a linear distance or really any type of meaningful comparison.

thanks for the radio recommendations so far!

Originally posted by FYRMAN



Very nice unit. Modify it to transmit on AM and open it up a little bit... Very nice. Bought my last one for $300 opened up and pushing 38 watts. Price is going up steadily since they quit making it though. They came out with a replacement for it, but I can't remember what the hell they called it. Emporer made a look a like also. The Emporer looks more like a 2970, ugly as hell...

Mine has the usual mods (11 meter conversion, Astatic D104mc6 mic, recieve tuned, mod tweaked ect) with the exception of the echip change. Have it turned down to .5 watt swingin 20 to run my heater. I have seen the clones, but they are just not the same.

Originally posted by scottz

I've had one of these for 5-6 years, great radio but be carefull mounting it in a trail rig, after knocking the xmit transistor loose on it twice I finnally took it out and put in a cheapie. Probably my fault though, it's hard to mount anything properly in an early toyota.

Mine has been very reliable. Just have to remember that you NEVER EVER leave it out in freezing weather. The LCD does not like that and they are very expensive to replace.

I run a "Communications Shop" and as a trail radio don't use a HR2510 the "internals" aren't built for it. Galaxy 33,44,55 are good "moderately" priced radios. IMHO the Galaxy 55 is the best/simplicity for the $$$$ after being modified of course! It has great features for the price. Why do you need sideband? Is it because you think they do more watts? Let me know......i can get them to SCREAM!!!!!;) :D :D

shaker,

did you read my post?

Im not concerened at ALL with the wattage!

isnt sideband a more effecient way to send a signal?

ive read from a few didfferent sources that ssb is capable of a much greater distance than CB why is that?

thats what IM asking!

is sideband really BETTER in that regard ( greater distance than CB)

Single sideband (SSB) is a more efficient way of utilizing the available watts. A regular AM signal has 3 components to it: a carrier signal, and both an upper and lower sideband. The carrier itself has no information (voice). It only serves to demodulate (Turn it into sound for the speaker) the information contained in the sidebands at the receiver.

Because it has no voice power, the carrier can be eliminated (suppressed) and the remaining transmitter power can be had in the sidebands.
Because the two sidebands mirror each other, only one is needed. All the transmitter's power is now going to one sideband, giving it maximum voice power.

The SSB receiver also uses half the RF bandwidth as a regular AM one. This makes for a signal-to-noise improvement, as it receives only half the noise, but the entire SSB signal.
The receiver has its own detector circuit that internally replaces the carrier for the purpose of demodulating the signal.

The main drawbacks are: you must "tune" in people's voices on the receiver (Clarifier, Voicelock, etc.), and even afterwards, voices sound "unnatural". They have a "robotic" sound to them (but still very legible) if not tuned in perfectly on center. Sometimes this tuning can be hard to do while driving.

Hope that helps, and that I didn't get too technical:rasta:

Originally posted by ozarkjeep
shaker,

did you read my post?

Im not concerened at ALL with the wattage!

isnt sideband a more effecient way to send a signal?

ive read from a few didfferent sources that ssb is capable of a much greater distance than CB why is that?

thats what IM asking!

is sideband really BETTER in that regard ( greater distance than CB)

Yep...Yes it is more "effecient" and can go "greater distances" because it has less "inteference" being transmitted through the "bandwidth". Sideband is better for going distance but having to constantly "tune" the signal can be a PITA. If you use it as a "Base station" it can be easier to operate. Original ? .....Yes Cherokee radios are a good brand.....Which model you looking at? :beer: :beer:

CM-10, I ordered it last night, in export version.

15 bands of 40 channels covers from roughly 24-30 Mghz

way more bands than Ill ever use, I read on a radio site, thats its not as powerful (output) as some of the other radios, but its so much cheaper I can afford to buy a warmer if it needs it ( probably wont for my needs), and its got 3 more bands than the next closest competitior at half the price

ive been looking at radios for a while and it seems to be a bargain

my luck its backordered or discountinued!
thanks for the info guys, ive played with an old 23 ch ssb enough to figure out teh robot voice thing, it took me several nights of trying to figure out the damn thing doesnt TX only rx ( its old and not mine)

check your private mail Shaker.

I just had a thought, this whole time IVE assumed the cheorkee cm-10 would do sideband, but now after looking at it, it doesnt have the clarifier or voice lock knob, and it doesn say ssb in the description, is it possible to have 15 bands of 40 channels and not do usb/lsb?

I emailed to cancel my order until I get this figured out.

would one of you guys with more knowledge about this than me check out this link and tell me what you think?

http://www.exportradios.com/prodpage.cfm?CFID=41635&CFTOKEN=89061958&Cat_Selected=19&Subcat_Selected=109&Group_Selected=219&product_Selected=735

thanks alot

99.00 is a little high on it......No sidebands and yes it is possible that have that many channels and no sidebands. Also wanna watch out this radio has been discontinued also........;) :beer:

thanks shaker!