i am trying to put a full width 79 bronco radius arm 44 under my xj. i would like to leave it full width and will be building my own radius arms from the c-bushing back. I have seen some set-ups on the early bronco front ends that do custom radius arms and mount them inboard the framerails. With my fullwidth front i think it would be to much angle (around 25 degree) to get them inboard. Now i am looking at mounting them outboard the frame rails, which i would have to offset to the outside but requires much less of an angle. Why hasnt this been done before? Is there something i am not thinking about? Give me your ideas, tell me what you think. i have searched all over the net and cant find any one running them outboard the rails why? :confused:

on my stock F-150 they angle in slightly and mount under the frame..

I would try to at least mimic this setup (you don't have to mount under the frame depending on frame width/arm length) because if you had them run straight back or angled out you would run into tire rub issues when turning. The radius arm mounts on the axles are really wide.

If you put them outboard will the tires clear the arms at full lock. That seems to be the only thing that I would see being a problem?? But hell if it works you can be the first

yeah the stock arms fall right on the framerail and i am just not willing to give up 3 inches of precious ground clearance. i think im gonna try it, if it doesnt work ill figure something else out. it doesnt look like tire clearance will be to much of a problem. If i come off the C-bushing roughly 10inches then anglt my arms outward and upward i can tuck them up along the outside of my rails. i am thinking it they will probally be a 4" offset at the most to get them outside the rails. i am just curious about the geometry, will offsetting the arms in this manner cause bindage, will the suspension cycle properly?

I always thought that they were meant to be as parallel to the ground as you can get them for handling reason. Kind of like the whole long arm vs. short arm thing.

they will be parallel to the ground, they will just be higher and then have a bend in the arms to drop down to the axle. kind of like TNT customs new long arm kit for cherokees

I have the exact setup under the front end of my ZJ, I built a new crossmember and they ended up just a bit towards the inside of the frame rails. Why can't you mount them underneath the framerails? You'll probably running enough tire not to sacrifice ground clearance. I'm running 38's and mine is fine underneath the rails. I'll try to maybe send you some pics.

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yeah i could mount them under the rails but im trying to keep it flat belly. if it is possible to make it work, why sacrifice 3 in. of ground clearance?

What size tire are you going to run?

will be running a set of 36" untill i can get the money to run 38's

they will be parallel to the ground, they will just be higher and then have a bend in the arms to drop down to the axle. kind of like TNT customs new long arm kit for cherokees

Sup dude, haven't seen ya around in a while...

The arm itself being parallel to the ground isn't what does it, it's the line drawn through both joints (axle and frame) that matters. If you have them mounted higher up on the frame, straight out, then angled down at the axle, it's gonna have the same ride and articulation as if you had the same exact mounts but a straight arm. The only benefit to having the bend there would be a bit more clearance under the arm itself.

The other thing about outboarding them is that having a bit of triangulation in the arms is a good thing as far as stability and articulation goes. I've looked at how a HP44 lines up and you're right, it's smack on the frame rails...which is one reason I'm not doing that right away (building a regular long arm setup for now).