: Lil' 4X4 Jeep
bertha 02-27-2002, 07:42 AM Alright so it's not a fullsize jeep but a jeep nonetheless. Anyway i have one of those little jeeps for my 3 year old and it was hand me down from big brother. Well the electric motor went dead and I was wanting to put a weed-eater engine in it for the "go" part. I can figure out the linkages i was just wondering if anyone has used or done this with a particular type of engine? And no, a lawnmower engine is too much and too big to fit. Anyone?
Cutter 02-27-2002, 08:00 AM i've got one of them power wheels Jeeps, and a edger engine, and a welder....i just need to find the time;) I also have a Jeep pedal car thats metal, but i think it may be worth something so i don't want to cut it up.
I've heard the combo to run is an optima and a starter motor.
bertha 02-27-2002, 08:22 AM Originally posted by Mo
I've heard the combo to run is an optima and a starter motor.
Thanks Cutter and Mo. Mo, don't you think the battery and starter motor is a lil' too heavy? or were you being a smarta$$ :D Cutter an edger might work as well, will have to look at it closer. Anyone else done this before?
morpheus 02-27-2002, 08:32 AM i think Mo is right on with the starter motor, especially if you got a gear reduction starter like comes on a corvette ... the little buggy would fly ...
- jack
44Runner 02-27-2002, 08:42 AM Originally posted by morpheus
i think Mo is right on with the starter motor, especially if you got a gear reduction starter like comes on a corvette ... the little buggy would fly ...
- jack
Holy crap, the driver of said equiped power wheel would be able to do wheelies!
Put a Novarossi in it:D
http://www.novarossi.com/motori/foto/230/rx21r1-230.jpg
TECHICAL DATA
C. CAPACITY 3,49 c.c.
POWER 2.5 H.P.
R.P.M. 35.000
STROKE 16.80
BORE 16.26
PORTS 7
WEIGHT gr. 320
SHAFT Ø 14mm
Welby 02-27-2002, 08:47 AM Originally posted by Lame
Put a Novarossi in it:D
http://www.novarossi.com/motori/foto/230/rx21r1-230.jpg
TECHICAL DATA
C. CAPACITY 3,49 c.c.
POWER 2.5 H.P.
R.P.M. 35.000
STROKE 16.80
BORE 16.26
PORTS 7
WEIGHT gr. 320
SHAFT Ø 14mm
LOL, sweet. I'm not real into it, but I've seen some of those wee 'lil motors well over $1,000 :eek: ...Ahhhhh, hobbies. No matter what you get into, you can spend some big bucks :D
bertha 02-27-2002, 08:48 AM Originally posted by Lame
Put a Novarossi in it:D
http://www.novarossi.com/motori/foto/230/rx21r1-230.jpg
TECHICAL DATA
C. CAPACITY 3,49 c.c.
POWER 2.5 H.P.
R.P.M. 35.000
STROKE 16.80
BORE 16.26
PORTS 7
WEIGHT gr. 320
SHAFT Ø 14mm
Where can i get one? And remember I want something that does not cost much. The weed-eater is free. Just curious though on how much that runs$$$. Wait, the link says enough, I'll go look :D Thanks fawker :flipoff2:
BillaVista 02-27-2002, 09:04 AM Cutter,
is that little pic your pedal-car jeep? Or just one like it?
Definately don't cut that up!! Better to build a tube frame from scratch anyway :D
I'd like to see more pics of the Jeep pedal car if you have them
Originally posted by bertha
Thanks Cutter and Mo. Mo, don't you think the battery and starter motor is a lil' too heavy? or were you being a smarta$$ :D Cutter an edger might work as well, will have to look at it closer. Anyone else done this before?
no smartass here... welll, at least not this time :flipoff2:
bertha 02-27-2002, 09:17 AM Originally posted by Daniel
I GOT 1! 5 hp briggs 3 speed tranny reverse everything wait till tonight I will snap some shots...
Sounds good, will check later on.
Mo, I was just thinking of how many times my 3 year old will do wheelies when he takes off, hahahahahahahaha that would be funny as hell. And hell, he would actually love it, the little speed demon. :D
Originally posted by Mo
no smartass here... welll, at least not this time :flipoff2:
I don't know, bertha, if I were you I'd run now and don't look back. I hear you saying cheap-just-get-it-running-again, and I hear these guys saying PERFORMANCE. The bad part is, if you give 'em a chance they'll convert you, you'll be lifting it and fabbing bigger tires before you know it. Seems to me that little 25-pound plastic jeep would *fly* with a starter motor. You know, actually, this kid down the street from me has one of those little plastic cars, and I've got a starter motor. Wonder if that kid ever leaves his car in the yard at night? Hmmmmm.........
Screwzer 02-27-2002, 09:26 AM The starter idea is a good one. We used to make 'em as kids from the parts scrounged at the local gas station. We was po chilen, so ours were made from 2x4s. How much does a 10 year old weigh? That's how much these can easily carry. You can go for quite a while on a charge, depending on battery, and they really zoom. At 10 it felt like 30 MPH, reality is closer to 10 MPH.
Use a motorcycle battery if ya wanna keep weight down, but your range would certainly be affected.
Pictures when you do it please!
you'd need some better tires too... those hard plastic things will just be ground to dust in short order.
Might as well throw a suspension under there at the same time.
Screwzer 02-27-2002, 09:56 AM Mo Said:
you'd need some better tires too... those hard plastic things will just be ground to dust in short order. Might as well throw a suspension under there at the same time.
Comon Mo, this is for the guys kid! You're over-engineering the thing. When have you ever seen a kid keep a toy for more than a couple of years.
Keep it cheap. Keep it simple. Starter motor, battery, water pump pulleys, and fan belt.
A little dumpster divin' outta give ya what you need.
Tip: Try out broken starters. usually, its the solenoid that's shot when people ditch 'em. Since you won't be using that anyway, they're perfect for your use.
bertha 02-27-2002, 10:02 AM Originally posted by Mo
you'd need some better tires too... those hard plastic things will just be ground to dust in short order.
Might as well throw a suspension under there at the same time.
Tires I have Mo, those little mudders that came on the Radio Flyer 4wheel wagons. The linkages I have worked out. And I just thought of this too, the weed-eater does not have a centrifugal clutch and when it idles it will still run. So what I need is a chainsaw because I know they have the centrifugal clutch. Doh! so I had a brain fart :rolleyes:
Originally posted by bertha
Tires I have Mo, those little mudders that came on the Radio Flyer 4wheel wagons. The linkages I have worked out. And I just thought of this too, the weed-eater does not have a centrifugal clutch and when it idles it will still run. So what I need is a chainsaw because I know they have the centrifugal clutch. Doh! so I had a brain fart :rolleyes:
Look for 1/4 scale RC car parts. They use lawn trimmer motors, they will have all the parts you need:D
Doc Savage 02-27-2002, 10:10 AM Well I had the batteries go out on the daughter's old jeep. I got a garden tractor battery and wired it in for the son. Lots more power. He almost pops wheelies when starting.
A buddy in Middle Tennessee plans to do a weedeater motor conversion on his daughter's jeep. He was talking about it at Dixie last year. I'll see him this week and check on how it's going.
The Starter motor sounds like a decent idea. You would need 2 of them. The power wheels jeeps use one motor on each wheel not just one. Would need to work out some type of differential/axle to run one motor.
Robert
not sure exactly what the inside of the PW heeps look like, but do a live axle conversion... and you only need one motor
Another option, if you want to get your 3-year-old started right, would be to take the jeep apart and scatter the parts around the garage. Then buy 2 or 3 different motors, all of which have promise even though none of them work just yet, and 4 or 5 axles which almost fit, and scatter these among the stock parts. Then buy him a couple 4wd mag subscriptions and teach him how to sit on a milk crate in the middle of his jeep parts and talk about how good its gonna be when it gets done.
Originally posted by 92xj
Another option, if you want to get your 3-year-old started right, would be to take the jeep apart and scatter the parts around the garage. Then buy 2 or 3 different motors, all of which have promise even though none of them work just yet, and 4 or 5 axles which almost fit, and scatter these among the stock parts. Then buy him a couple 4wd mag subscriptions and teach him how to sit on a milk crate in the middle of his jeep parts and talk about how good its gonna be when it gets done.
The Force is strong with this one. :vader:
MattS 02-27-2002, 12:30 PM If it has 4 wheels it better be 4wd!!! :D
ColdNorth 02-27-2002, 01:54 PM ...What about an ATV rear axle? Just run a 4-link out of pipe and some coils (like maybe from a pogo stick? ROFL)... And run a chain to your starter motor / chainsaw motor / etc...? ...Build a frame and a li'l cage outta some pipe, etc... That'd kick ass. :D
...Don't know what you'd use for the front tho... But I guess knuckles wouldn't be hard to build if you had access to a lathe and milling machine; it's not like they're going to take much abuse. :D ...OOO! Use steering Ujoints and yokes... OOOOO! :D
Ok, now I want to build one. :evil:
mytzlflick 02-27-2002, 03:06 PM keep it light, run a motorcycle battery and a motorcycle starter, my dad builds these things all the time and the bike starter will wheelie his little trike no problems.
CrazyHorse 02-27-2002, 05:30 PM Originally posted by bertha
Tires I have Mo, those little mudders that came on the Radio Flyer 4wheel wagons. The linkages I have worked out. And I just thought of this too, the weed-eater does not have a centrifugal clutch and when it idles it will still run. So what I need is a chainsaw because I know they have the centrifugal clutch. Doh! so I had a brain fart :rolleyes:
most weed eaters have a cantrifugal clutch on them...at least the weed eater brand powerhead that became my blender did...
hy_desert_4wheeler 02-28-2002, 09:50 AM how about a thrashed 4X4ATV for the axles but use the smaller engine for a youngster.. I like the weedeater engine Idea
bertha 02-28-2002, 09:55 AM Originally posted by hy_desert_4wheeler
how about a thrashed 4X4ATV for the axles but use the smaller engine for a youngster.. I like the weedeater engine Idea
The weed-eater idea sounded good to me too except that I realized it does not have a centrifugal clutch and will always run no matter what. A Chainsaw however stops when the gas is let off and it already turns a 'chain" so kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak. Now I have to find a damn chainsaw :(
Wheelr 02-28-2002, 12:23 PM My RYOBI weed-eater has a clutch on it.
But where do you buy just the motor and clutch? Any websites?
Edit:
Check out what I just found!
http://www.conleyprecision.com/prod01.htm
...but look at the price:eek: .
hy_desert_4wheeler 02-28-2002, 01:27 PM The three weedeaters I have all have centrifugal cutches and the engines are pretty much the same as the chain saw engines..
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