: 63" chevy's in an xj


habib
05-29-2005, 07:40 AM
I've tried to search but the damn search won't use "63" as criteria. can somone point me in the right direction?

thanks, -newbi fawker

KansasJoe
05-29-2005, 04:03 PM
i don't know exactly what you're looking for but i can tell you the xj springs measure 23 x 28-5/8 with a 323 guage and the chevy springs are actually 64" long measuring 32 x 32 with a 360 guage and have dutched (berlin) eyes while the jeeps eyes are rolled on top of the spring....only thing these two springs have in common are they're 2-1/2" wide so if you're looking to put these on then relocate hangers and shackles accordingly.

Toyoland66
05-29-2005, 04:08 PM
So basically, the Xj springs are 51 ~ 52" in length with an offset pin......

You will have to relocate both the spring mount, and the shackle mount on the frame

Go to your jeep, measure 32" in front of and in back of your center pin, and that will be where the new mounts will be (approximately, assuming you aren't changing wheelbase)

Hope that helped a little

habib
06-01-2005, 02:39 PM
great info exactly what i was needing

imgonnasnap
06-06-2005, 02:32 PM
I am going to do the same thing. did you guys make a custom pack with the chevy 63, or use it just as it is?

habib
09-12-2005, 08:49 AM
i haven't fnished yet, but i'll post pics when it's done

baseballneal86
09-12-2005, 01:07 PM
norcalxj on this board is the only one who has done it that I've seen. Search under that username and you should find some pics of his rig. Although I believe he sold it awhile back. I'm assuming you're inboarding the springs?

Also search "norcalxj" on www.xjdb.com The pics are hosted there as well.

IV WHLN
09-12-2005, 08:34 PM
I have a bunch of buddies that have ran the 63" chevs in the back of their XJ's. Easy conversion. Same thing as the Toyota guys do (spring handers, shackle, hangers, and shackles). The set up works awsome.

baseballneal86
09-13-2005, 04:33 PM
Got any pics of em?

habib
09-14-2005, 04:59 AM
bump for pics

imgonnasnap
09-14-2005, 01:43 PM
I dont have flex pics, just driveway pics, if someone wants to post them.

offroadman83
09-14-2005, 01:47 PM
Look at username wobblewagon and his cherokee he is currently selling. He is using these exact springs on his cherokee under the unibody rails. He has amazing flex.---------Kyle

imgonnasnap
09-14-2005, 05:12 PM
http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160453_IMG_0538.JPG

http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160435_IMG_0537.JPG

http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160411_IMG_0536.JPG

KRAWLER76
09-15-2005, 12:50 PM
http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160453_IMG_0538.JPG

http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160435_IMG_0537.JPG

http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160411_IMG_0536.JPG
those don't work :flipoff2:

imgonnasnap
09-15-2005, 03:42 PM
those don't work :flipoff2:

Hey, they work better than your motor!

master94546
09-20-2005, 10:52 PM
i got 63's on my 87

variable
11-02-2005, 04:42 PM
it looks like whatever he fabbed for mounting the spring hanger and shackles runs from one end of the spring to the other.

http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/files/imgonnasnap/20050914160435_IMG_0537.JPG

any idea why that was done? I mean I realize you get a bit more of a drop than just putting some new hangers somewhere else... Is it a strength thing? Or did this end up being a simpler solution?

imgonnasnap
11-02-2005, 05:10 PM
it looks like whatever he fabbed for mounting the spring hanger and shackles runs from one end of the spring to the other.

any idea why that was done? I mean I realize you get a bit more of a drop than just putting some new hangers somewhere else... Is it a strength thing? Or did this end up being a simpler solution?

Ha! it was an accident. I bought the jeep with that sub frame in, and then pulled it out to accomidate the chevy springs. when i extended the front mount so the axle would be in the right spot, I forgot that the subframe had an arch to it and didn't make the extension to lay flat against the body. So When I rebuild it with roun tubing, it will be better.

Jeff_98xj_WI
11-03-2005, 01:26 PM
I used Dodge springs in my '98. They are about 60" long. First, I sleeved the main frame rail with half of a 4x6 piece of box tubing. I mounted the springs backwards from the Dodge setup and put the back end into extended xj shackles (widened slightly for the Dodge bushing) and then mounted the front end in a spring pocket welded to the side of my sleeve. The bolt through the eye of the spring goes through the frame via a round sleeve welded into the frame and puts the bottom of the spring eye flush with the bottom of the frame. In this configuration the axle was moved back a couple inches and gave about 4" of lift compared to stock. I added a 2 " block with offset center pin to move the axle back forward an inch. I also ended up adding a second full length leaf (Dodge 1500 main leaf with the ends cut off.) I'm sitting somewhere around 7" of lift and it rides well, flexes fairly well, and hasn't sagged. I kept the stiff Dodge overload leaf as the springs wanted to distort without it. It also acts as a progressive bump stop, anti wrap bar, and gives a little lift. I've got pics, but no way to post here. Jeff

Clean RC
11-04-2005, 08:55 AM
those don't work :flipoff2:


Yeah when is that motor gonna work??? And how much damage did ya do to my crank???:flipoff2:

xX510 Bay MiNiXx
11-04-2005, 09:07 AM
i know a guy that did it. i believe he did it similar to the one posted above where he welded shackles off the uni body. here is a link to the pic although you cant see the way its done too well.
http://myspace-215.vo.llnwd.net/00082/51/22/82222215_l.jpg

http://myspace-430.vo.llnwd.net/00082/03/40/82220430_l.jpg

hackedmj
11-08-2005, 09:12 PM
I've been thinking about trying this on my XJ after seeing some Yotas doing well with them. Do you guys think you could get as low as 4" with this setup if the mounts were positioned right or is there too much arch?

padrik5
11-09-2005, 12:15 PM
im around 41/2-5

just put the spring about 4 inches in front of the xj spring mount

and get some long shackles or make yourself a strong rear bumber and hang them off that thats what im diong

habib
01-19-2006, 09:23 PM
mine ended up sitting at about 7". The front hanger is at stock height just mounted forward. In the rear I welded a new hanger about 3" lower than stock. With the 3" longer than stock shackles it all works amazingly well.

I need to top it off with a traction bar and some stiffer front coils and it should be golder:smokin:

imgonnasnap
01-20-2006, 12:38 AM
how many leafs do you have? even with the 350, i dont think i need a traction bar.

trailcreep
01-20-2006, 02:16 PM
What year,model chevy's are you guys pulling the springs off of??And how much lift are you getting with them mounted under the unirail??

imgonnasnap
01-23-2006, 01:16 PM
What year,model chevy's are you guys pulling the springs off of??And how much lift are you getting with them mounted under the unirail??

I dont recall off hand. Search in the toyota section about the 63's. it'll say in there, andsome other useful information

master94546
01-23-2006, 09:44 PM
the pics of the white xj in this thread are mine if u have quesions let me know message me

aparke4
11-29-2007, 01:39 PM
i know its an old thread - looking to do the same on my xj - there is a thread over on naxja but not too many pics yet... anyone have pics? part number for spring? lift spring?

BFJ
11-29-2007, 07:14 PM
i know its an old thread - looking to do the same on my xj - there is a thread over on naxja but not too many pics yet... anyone have pics? part number for spring? lift spring?


The point of this spring is that-
you can get them cheap at the junk yard
most get the 3 leaf
some get the 4 leaf
but there all cheap!!!

I got the 3s and removed the overload.

it just depends on how heavy your rig is.


if your wanting a part number so you can go buy them don't bother
You can buy better after market springs than these that will just bolt right in.
In other words if you don't want to spend the money, go to the junk yard with a tape (measure 64") and get some.

how much lift?... I got 3" of lift on the back of my toyota. They work awsome and cost me nothing! However they axle wrap like crazy so plan on making a anti-wrap bar.

do they flex? yea they're above average.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/1325701021_5eba78fba2_o.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/1325701029_b159d8758d_o.jpg