this is a 1998 HZJ75

it has a 2" OME suspension and it is way to stiff

we are looking to put a solid simple flexy system under it

we are pretty open to ideas

the truck has ARB's front and rear

any ideas?
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Hey Dude,

Send me a picture of your truck and I will post the picture for you.

wngrog@aol.com

As for the 75...it is a 1.5 ton truck designed with the single most God-aweful leaf pack in the rear.

You need to decide how you plan on using your truck and then get some weights, with the gear you carry and contact

alcansprings.com

They will make you the springs you need and it will be cheaper than importing a 75 series mass produced system (Ironman, OME) from OZ

This rig is sooo sweet!!!

i dig it too, coolio! jiMMy

Nolan,

thanks for posting the pic!!



everyone,

we really are looking for sugestions on the suspension

and by no means have to stay on leafs.

but a proven system on a similar toyota chassie atleast.

so let the ideas fly guys..It will be very much appreciated.

Stick with leafs, but do a spring over. I would think this would be a better route than coming up with a 4 link and air bags or coils.

i with nolen on this one spoa easy and will flex fine.

NICE RIG

you lucky bastards get all the good rigs (almost)

man i didint think youse ha dthem over there?
hey, do a SPOA, remove som leafs, soft/flexy, nice shackle angle

looks heaps tuff too ;)

nice looking 75, see hundreds, but i do like the factory styleside trays they look the part! and are less common over here

Ok so say I agree and decide to go spring over

and take a few of the leafs out flattening out the OME Springs

what high steer system is best?

how long of shocks can I/should I go with?

should I fab a rear link to stop the wrap of the now more flexy spring or will this not be a problem with the diesel?

Originally posted by bj42
man i didint think youse ha dthem over there?
We don't. That looks like one of the ENS mine trucks that "mysteriously" migrated south of the 49th parrallel.
Originally posted by bj42
nice looking 75, see hundreds, but i do like the factory styleside trays they look the part! and are less common over here [/B]
Wierd looking bed on it. Looks like some kid of Nissan or Toy pickup bed. ENS only gets cab/chassis models. They then strip the roof and doors off before using them in the mines. HC or Rick D will have more info.

Ross

That is a custom stainless bed and I think it looks great. Too many aweful homemade beds on these beautiful trucks when they are in the US.

This is not a mine truck, FYI.

OK, as for shocks, you will need to see when you get the SOA done what you will need. Definately something that should be done after the fact to make sure you get the proper length.

If you still have the stock leaf packs, the front should be fine but those rears have like 12 leafs, right?

Ouch!

stock it had like 10 leafs in front

and 12 plus 2 overload in the back...looked like a cement truck

Mad! I'm gonna post it anyways! Just got it resized from over 300k to 25K!!

thanks dog walker!!!

i'll need to get me one of those little red stars...cuz I got zillions of pics...look out bandwidth!!!!

As someone else suggested: If they are OME leafs, then if you can get the numbers off the springs, the factory can tell you which leafs to remove. The difference between many of the OME kits (ie med, med/heavy, heavy) are the addition of intermediate leafs.

Don't bother with ARB USA, they won't know.

Jim

Two things. First of all, I don't advise a spring-over conversion on a 75 series, the result is going to be a TALL truck, and those axles are narrower than a 60 series. I guess you could control it with the springpacks, but still, unless you plan on doing hardcore wheeling with it...

That said, if you want to go with a SO, I'm not sure what the knuckle arm bolt pattern on the 79 series is. On the 75 series it was the same as the 60 series, but I haven't even seen a 79 series up close, so I can't tell. Rick D. will know more about that.

That truck may not be from ENS, but it looks suspiciously like a MINE-spec truck out of Canada, which means that if it didn't come from ENS, it came from that other company based in Eastern Canada (can't remember the name). I bet this is one of those trucks sold by the guy advertising on TT?...is it?

DOH!! Never mind, I just reread the thread and noticed it's a 75 series. In that case, I'm pretty sure the hy-steer knuckle arms available for the 60 series (All-Pro, Mountain Air) should work on this truck.

Don't post 1990 70 series trucks also have the reverse cut 8" front axle? If so, it has the behind the tube linkage, as well as two bolt top knuckle bearing cap different from previous Cruiser front ends (but same as the 80 series front).

Ross

No, the post-1990 75 series and 80 series front axles are different, I'm not sure that the 75 series has the steering components in the back like the 80 series. Where is Rick Donnelly when you need him???!:flipoff2:

This is like a 40 front axle in this Cruiser. If you look closely you can see the tie rod in the front.

I say SOA, I say SOA....

Originally posted by 60seriesguy
No, the post-1990 75 series and 80 series front axles are different, I'm not sure that the 75 series has the steering components in the back like the 80 series. Where is Rick Donnelly when you need him???!:flipoff2:
I took a quick look at the 50th Anniversary book and Das Grosse Landcruiser Buch. Neither showed a good pic of the 75 series, but they showed some better pics of the 79. It looks like the 79 is similar to the 80 series. Rick?:confused:

Ross

the front axle is a rd23

the rear axle is a rd33

the tie rod is in front.

Here's a shot from a 1998 factory brochure that shows the tie rods in the front.

everybody say oooohhhhh aaahhh

- I am here.

Bottom bearing knuckle caps are same from 1/79-8/99 for all leaf sprung trucks (and part number is -35XXX which actual is mini truck....)


top shims are same size for 1/79 - 8/99, so knuckle arm (high steer) should work. Arm droop is different for 7X series..

That al being said, I agree with Henry that the narrow stance of the 7X series may be poor sprung over. The cheap solution is pull some leaves out. Alcan etc could make a 3" spring (which might end up being a 1.5" or a 6"!)

I suspect the origin of the truck is the company in eastern Canada that reassembled about 13 mine trucks and sold them off. ENS and the other mine supplier were audited by the Canadian DOT to make sure that all trucks were sold for 'off road use only' on bill of sale. From what I hear, it was a huge stink and no trucks sold to mines can escape like this again (for road use!).

That being said, anyone want a new cab chassis? Unlike Mr New York (on Specter) I CAN provide a/c, free hubs, and a factory bed/tailgate and headache bar!
(about $27,000+)

this was never a mine truck...it was never rebuilt...still has less then 5k on the od.

it needs about 2 more inches of lift then as you see it here...IMHO

the truck gets wheeled more then driven on the road ...and thats really what the plan for it is.

Originally posted by muskyman
this was never a mine truck...it was never rebuilt...still has less then 5k on the od.

it needs about 2 more inches of lift then as you see it here...IMHO

the truck gets wheeled more then driven on the road ...and thats really what the plan for it is.

Spring Over. It will be like having a spring over on an FJ-40.

Ways to get around the narrow stance:

Wheels-Custom 2" backspacing-add's 3" to your track

Tires-36 x 14.50R x 15 Super Swamper TSL Radials

www.performancewheel.com - custom 2-3" Billet wheel spacers

FJ-60 axles



Any of the above, a combo or all together.

You want to wheel this Cruiser, right?

You'll have to play with the springpacks if you want to do a SO on a 75 series pickup, just the rear springpacks are going to yield like 6" of lift, the packs are HUGE! Like Nolen, I think it's doable, especially if you plan to wheel the truck hard. OME's are available for this model, but they're $$$$$$. A SO would be nice, but I recommend using different springpacks to control the height.

Okay, I just reread your original post...I'm a MORON, I should have done this before typing. I see you already have OME's. The change to SO will make them less stiff, but you still might benefit from going to flexy custom springs placed above the axle, with a hi-steer conversion at the same time.

How did you obtain that truck? Did it come from Canada?:skull:

Originally posted by wngrog
That is a custom stainless bed and I think it looks great. Too many aweful homemade beds on these beautiful trucks when they are in the US.

Ouch!

I am pretty sure it's a factory bed. We have about 3 billion 75 series cruisers on the roads here in OZ and some of them have that bed.

its most definetly a custom stainless bed......just really well done

it was done custom in wisconsin to look as oem as possible

Originally posted by 60seriesguy
DOH!! Never mind, I just reread the thread and noticed it's a 75 series. In that case, I'm pretty sure the hy-steer knuckle arms available for the 60 series (All-Pro, Mountain Air) should work on this truck.


so does any one on here use either of these two hysteers?

are there ups and downs of each or they just pretty much the same?

links for either?

what pitman arm are you running?

Hey, muskyman

I still have free carfax reports for a couple more weeks.....
Drop me your VIN # if you want me to check it for you....

Same for any of the rest of you....

Only thing is, it must be a 17 digit VIN.....Wont work on early Cruisers... :(

toyfvr@frontiernet.net

Wouldn't it be possible juste to buy a complete coil suspension from a wrecked 80?
A SOA would give aprox 10" of lift in the rear.

rick d
Could you explain this: "Alcan etc could make a 3" spring (which might end up being a 1.5" or a 6"!)"