: K/C Lights = Ticket


Jeepman68
02-28-2002, 06:47 PM
I hope someone can help. I remember reading in one of my magazines about a year or so ago about some one who recieved a ticket for his K/C lights being uncovered and went to court and beat it. I think it was in ElDorado county. Any body else read this?? I need to know what magazine and what month . It gave a docket # and a address to send off for a copy of the records. I need it so i can send off to the court records to beat my ticket. Any help would be appreciated.

Big Rich
02-28-2002, 06:50 PM
If your lights are mounted above the headlights your screwed (that's my understanding, but then again once in awhile I'm wrong:D :D )

APRIL'S RAINMAN
02-28-2002, 07:35 PM
it was rick russell and i believe in either petersons 4 wheel or 4 wheel and sport utility and if you call him according to his article you can call him and get copies of his transcripts and the law.
call at side kick offroad maps chino ca. @ 909-628-7227 this is his company so good luck

Brandon
02-28-2002, 07:36 PM
were they on? I got pulled over, but then again they were on - and he let me off :flipoff2:

Lil'John
02-28-2002, 07:48 PM
I saw something in the light provisions of the CA laws with regards to this a while ago on the DMV web site.

From what I recall, there were three classifications of lights(fog, head, driving) The classification was based on location with regard to the bumper and actual height from the ground.

Goto the DMV website and take a look. It only took me about 20 minutes of looking to find it when I looked :p

JimL
02-28-2002, 07:51 PM
I think its going to vary by state. However, how can they be sure they were not the 100W variety vs. the 165W? Here 100W is legal, but thats the max. Maybe like someone else suggested, they were above the headlights? Need more details.

Although, I'd love to see them try and prove they were 165W. Only a well-trained eye could detect such a difference.:rolleyes:

smurfsdad
02-28-2002, 07:56 PM
I think that any more than 4 lights gotta be covered also

APRIL'S RAINMAN
02-28-2002, 08:06 PM
i believe no more than 36 inchesfrom ground and no more than 4 working lights on the highway and they must be able to be in conjuction with your headlights .rick had his tied into his dimmer switch and could adjust them as needed

ChevyGal
02-28-2002, 11:51 PM
I got a fix it ticket for driving with mine uncovered (I just took them off that morning too because they were old and cracked and falling apart!). Good ol' Barney Fife in Elk Grove got me... I bought covers put them on, took my truck to the station and they said that's good and wrote it off... I don't get what the big deal is? These ricer idiots can drive around with the fricken sun beams on and blind everyone but one of us has God forbid an uncovered KC light on our truck and we are breaking the law... makes tons of sense... :rolleyes:

Old Fart
03-05-2002, 12:10 PM
Article is here:
http://sidekickoffroad.com/articleindxF.htm

FWIW, I've had my (bumper mounted) 150W KC's wired this way for years - never had a problem. A lot depends on how you use them (in other words, if you go around zapping people for shits and grins - you deserve what you get)

welndmn
03-05-2002, 02:10 PM
God seems like a lot of work, i got a ticket for not having them on my light bar, i bought covers, went down the the highway patrol (they gave me the ticket) begged and showed them my covers, they tore the ticket up and said wrote me a fix it ticket then signed it off for thier records

Dan-H
03-05-2002, 02:33 PM
you could always look up the law in the CA motor vehicle code (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vcpdf/div12.pdf)

Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
24402.
(a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam.

Foglamps
24403.
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two foglamps which may be used with, but shall not be used in substitution of, headlamps. Fog lamps shall be mounted on the front at a height of not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches and so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of four inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes.

Amended Ch. 341, Stats. 1969. Effective November 10, 1969.

Spotlamps
24404.
(a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two white spotlamps, which shall not be used in substitution of headlamps.
(b) No spotlamp shall be equipped with any lamp source exceeding 32 standard candlepower or 30 watts nor project any glaring light into the eyes of an approaching driver.
(c) Every spotlamp shall be so directed when in use: That no portion of the main substantially parallel beam of light will strike the roadway to the left of the prolongation of the left side line of the vehicle. That the top of the beam will not strike the roadway at a distance in excess of 300 feet from the vehicle.
(d) This section does not apply to spotlamps on authorized emergency vehicles.
(e) No spotlamp when in use shall be directed so as to illuminate any other moving vehicle.
Amended Ch. 544, Stats. 1967. Effective November 8, 1967.

Maximum Number of Lamps
24405.
(a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to
the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any authorized emergency vehicle.
Amended Ch. 234, Stats. 1976. Effective January 1, 1977.

Multiple Beams
24406. Except as otherwise provided, the headlamps, or other auxiliary driving lamps, or a combination thereof, on a motor vehicle during darkness shall be so arranged that the driver may select at will between distributions of light projected to different elevations, and the lamps may, in addition, be so arranged that the selection can be made automatically.

Upper and Lower Beam
24407.
Multiple-beam road lighting equipment shall be designed and aimed as follows:
(a) There shall be an uppermost distribution of light, or composite beam, so aimed and of such intensity as to reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least 350 feet ahead for all conditions of loading.
(b) There shall be a lowermost distribution of light, or composite beam so aimed and of sufficient intensity to reveal a person or vehicle at a distance of at least 100 feet ahead. On a straight level road under any condition of loading none of the high intensity portion of the beam shall be directed to strike the eyes of an approaching driver.

Amended Ch. 547, Stats. 1963. Effective September 20, 1963.

Beam Indicator
24408.
(a) Every new motor vehicle registered in this state after
January 1, 1940, which has multiple-beam road lighting equipment shall be equipped with a beam indicator, which shall be lighted whenever the uppermost distribution of light from the headlamps is in use, and shall not otherwise be lighted.
(b) The indicator shall be so designed and located that when lighted it will be readily visible without glare to the driver of the vehicle so equipped. Any such lamp on the exterior of the vehicle shall have a light source not exceeding two candlepower, and the light shall not show to the front or sides of the vehicle.
Amended Ch. 422, Stats. 1970. Effective November 23, 1970.


Auxiliary Lamps: Off-Highway Use
24411.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle may be equipped with not more than eight lamps for use as headlamps while the vehicle is operated or driven off the highway. The lamps shall be mounted at a height of not less than 16 inches from the ground, or more than 12 inches above the top of the passenger compartment, at any place between the front of the vehicle and a line lying on a point 40 inches to the rear of the seat occupied by the driver, shall be wired independently of all other lighting circuits, and, whenever the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway, shall be covered or hooded with an opaque hood or cover, and turned off.


http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vcpdf/div12.pdf

ItsaCJ6
03-05-2002, 05:11 PM
as you can see by the code CA sucks