ryeguy
03-01-2002, 12:19 PM
Hi guys.
I want to put an external cooler on each of my NP203 and NP205. Any ideas where I can find a nice, small (preferred) electric pump that will handle synth. gear oil?
--Rob
craigreece@eathlink.net
03-01-2002, 02:32 PM
I have a buddy who builds racecars, and he uses the Holley blue pump (Summit has them for about $97) to pump gear oil, and has for years.
Craig
Charles Aarons
03-01-2002, 03:21 PM
I use a military 24V electric pump in my BJ40 to pump gear oil up to the planetary overdrive (in the rear PTO hole) in the upper part of the transfer case, there's a drain-back line to the main part of the T-case.
So a Holley red pump should work especially after the oil gets warm; the pump seems reliable despite the viscosity of 85W-140.
But why would you need coolers for a 203/205 doubler? Certainly not trail use. Do you have it in a heavy pickup and do heavy towing? The ORD 203/205 setup in my 10,000 lb F350 gets warm with speed driving but not hot. These boxes have stood the test of decades in terms of reliability. I saw a 205 in a "homemade" 15,000 lb medium truck powered by a 6BT Cummins and Spicer 7 spd which has towed up to a GCWR of 30,000 lb!!! It's a tough gear box for something that small.
Did you know that the basic design of the 205 was the NP200 used in WW2 WC62/63 6X6 1.5 ton trucks starting in late 1942, so the design has been around for 60 years?
I have a NP205 with NP200 output shafts and yokes and housings on it, that's how interchangeable and unchanging and reliable the design is.
Charlie
ryeguy
03-01-2002, 04:00 PM
The truck is geared pretty slow. Both cases are spinning ~4000rpm. The cases get too hot to touch after some 20 miles of highway driving. According to the temp. sensor I put in, the oil is upwards of 180-200F. With acceptable ranges, but I'd rather have a cooler on them anyway. No concerns for the trails, though. I think I'll be going for blue pump...
--Rob
Old Scout
03-01-2002, 04:45 PM
Better let it get hot before you cool it. It will pick up a ton of moisture if it never gets hot and things will rust and or get gummy.
Charles Aarons
03-01-2002, 05:26 PM
That is fast. I think in my M37 the case will turn at ~3000 with engine going 24-2500 in 5th; and in my F350 like wise the doubler will be doing about 3000-3200 at 23-2500 7.3 speed at 70-75 mph. 4000 will get one of these cases quite warm.
Charlie
ryeguy
03-02-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Charles Aarons
That is fast. I think in my M37 the case will turn at ~3000 with engine going 24-2500 in 5th; and in my F350 like wise the doubler will be doing about 3000-3200 at 23-2500 7.3 speed at 70-75 mph. 4000 will get one of these cases quite warm.
Charlie
...thus the reason for an external cooler on the cases...:-)
Thanks, guys.
--Rob