Which hijack to go with... [Archive]

landusepbb

03-02-2002, 07:15 AM

For a pickup you're nuts no to go with the 60". The reason you don't see many Jeepers with a 60" is because there is no where to keep it, a 48" is almost as wide as the vehicle itself, ie here's a pic of mine mounted against the back rollbar, no room for a 60"

http://home.off-road.com/~rockgarden/images/MVC-011S.JPG

morpheus

03-02-2002, 07:19 AM

if you got space for the 60" then go for it, if you get the 48 now there will come a day when you wish you had the 60 ... trust me ... i know.

- jack

High5

03-02-2002, 08:11 AM

get the 60" you then just make you mounts to fit the jeep. it doesn't have to mounted sideways. i got the 48 and wish i had the 60:(

92xj

03-02-2002, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by TyTy
Im fittin to buy a hi jack lift. I was wondering...

1. Is the 60" to much, or just right?

2. Should I go with the cast or regular? (Anyone ever broke a regular steel one?

Thanks

I think everybody misunderstood your question. They're all acting like you were asking about a "Hi-Lift jack." Luckily for you I'm here and I know how to read, so here are my thoughts on the "Hijack 60-inch lift kit."

1. Yeah, 60 inches is too much, but that's the Hijack Company is all about, extreme lifts. If you're afraid of standing out of the crowd, stick with the Skyjacker 8-inch lift kit or something else tiny like that. But if you've got the balls, go ahead and go for the 60-inch lift. It'll let you run those 96-inch boggers you've been dying to have and it's great for picking up girls (in fact, you have to pick them up to get them to the passenger seat).

2. Definitely go with the steel ladders, I've never broken mine and they look lots better than the cast-iron ones, less rust-prone, and all you're using it for is to climb inside.

(Oh, BTW, since you other guys got off topic with the Hi-Lift's, let me add that the only difference between cast and regular is some of the parts, the body of the jack is the same in either case. And, yeah 60" hilifts are hard to fit inside a normal jeep, and a 60 does a hell of a lot less good if you leave it at home. If you've got a good external mount point and are willing to leave it there all the time, you might go for a 60, otherwise get a 48, mount it inside and forget about it. If you need to go higher you can always find some logs or rocks to move up in stages.)

High5

03-02-2002, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by 92xj

I think everybody misunderstood your question. They're all acting like you were asking about a "Hi-Lift jack." Luckily for you I'm here and I know how to read, so here are my thoughts on the "Hijack 60-inch lift kit."

1. Yeah, 60 inches is too much, but that's the Hijack Company is all about, extreme lifts. If you're afraid of standing out of the crowd, stick with the Skyjacker 8-inch lift kit or something else tiny like that. But if you've got the balls, go ahead and go for the 60-inch lift. It'll let you run those 96-inch boggers you've been dying to have and it's great for picking up girls (in fact, you have to pick them up to get them to the passenger seat).

2. Definitely go with the steel ladders, I've never broken mine and they look lots better than the cast-iron ones, less rust-prone, and all you're using it for is to climb inside.

(Oh, BTW, since you other guys got off topic with the Hi-Lift's, let me add that the only difference between cast and regular is some of the parts, the body of the jack is the same in either case. And, yeah 60" hilifts are hard to fit inside a normal jeep, and a 60 does a hell of a lot less good if you leave it at home. If you've got a good external mount point and are willing to leave it there all the time, you might go for a 60, otherwise get a 48, mount it inside and forget about it. If you need to go higher you can always find some logs or rocks to move up in stages.) :

laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

morpheus

03-02-2002, 11:05 AM

Rerard

03-02-2002, 11:20 AM

any pics of this 60" lift? that would be interesting...

Moab Austin

03-02-2002, 11:34 AM

Anyone know where that one company went that was selling that "baloon jack"

or anyone have one??

It basically was a big ballon that you clamped on your exaust and let the motor pump it up..

it was supposed to lift vehicle easy and be puncure proof against bolts and such...

haha sounds funny but I was just wondering if anyone heard of it?

pmurf1

03-02-2002, 12:27 PM

I have a 48" one on my 4runner. It clamps onto a mount that ties the sides together. There's no way a 60" would fit without getting caught on stuff. I run out of jack with the Chevy's and 44044s, so here was my solution. Get a piece of 4' chain and two small shackles and wrap it around the frame spring if you need to get the tire off the ground. I even went so far as to weld eyebolts to my frame and sping plates so I could easily attach the shackles. Works great, plus the chain could come in handy for some other trail repair.

TyTy

03-02-2002, 02:37 PM

Thanks for the replies...

I guess since I have a flatbed it wouldnt hurt to get the 60" one. I dont think Im gonna bother with the cast one though, if the body is the same then I guess it really dosent matter.

I was just wanting to make sure that 60" isnt overkill and just cumbersome weight to haul around...

Plus Im sure the shipping on the 60" is gonna be a bit higher but I guess it is worth it.

Thanks!

92xj

03-02-2002, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Moab Austin
Anyone know where that one company went that was selling that "baloon jack"

or anyone have one??

It basically was a big ballon that you clamped on your exaust and let the motor pump it up..

it was supposed to lift vehicle easy and be puncure proof against bolts and such...

haha sounds funny but I was just wondering if anyone heard of it?

Here ya go, Moab

http://www.oppositelock.com/images/recover02.jpg

Hey tyty, don't order it shipped if you can help it, shipping on a 60 will be like $30+. Pretty much any farm implement store has them, I got my 48" from Tractor Supply for $42 versus $48+$26 shipping that I almost paid to Harbor Freight.

Bones

03-02-2002, 03:33 PM

I have a 60" and it fits in my 4Runner perfectly :D It is bent however and is the stronger cast-steel? one. :mad3: I need to get it back to warranty it, or just by a new one. Bad thing is it's only been used in my driveway maybe 6-10 times!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/Bent%20Hilift1.jpg

Rerard

03-02-2002, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by TyTy
Thanks for the replies...

I guess since I have a flatbed it wouldnt hurt to get the 60" one. I dont think Im gonna bother with the cast one though, if the body is the same then I guess it really dosent matter.

I was just wanting to make sure that 60" isnt overkill and just cumbersome weight to haul around...

Plus Im sure the shipping on the 60" is gonna be a bit higher but I guess it is worth it.

Thanks!

4WP has free shipping right now... im not sure how their prices compare though but something to look into.

coyote

03-02-2002, 06:29 PM

Pmurf1...sometimes you get real close to the top even with the chain....go 60 and be done with it for those off camber situations, or when you watch someone peal a tire while climbing a hill or rock.....and get a big base!

Cutter

03-02-2002, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by coyote
.....and get a big base!
or at least a big ol' 14"X14" X3/4" piece of good board.

Cheepin

03-02-2002, 09:13 PM

I have the 48" one.Wish I had a 60" at times,but even in a Blazer the 60" would be hard to fit.I like to use a stock chevy truck jack if I can.These lift really high for what they are.And add a couple of blocks and you can change a tall tire easily.Or if I need the highlift I use a rachet strap to pull the axle up closer to the frame.I have 36" swampers and can change a tire with the chevy jack.Blazin:rasta:

BadDog

03-02-2002, 09:30 PM

I have the 60 and even with only 4" of lift I can not get the rear tires off the ground without strapping the rear axle. Gotta get some limiting straps anyway to keep from destroying my shocks but, my point is, I wouldn't go less than a 60 on any rock rig with significant flex...

Brandon

03-02-2002, 09:49 PM

nobody said much about cast vs the stamped - get cast!!

The other one SUCKS, honestly it is day and night!

Hayraker

03-02-2002, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Brandon
nobody said much about cast vs the stamped - get cast!!

The other one SUCKS, honestly it is day and night!

I agree, if you don't get the cast you might as well be buying one of those chinese farm jacks that HF sells.

The cast will last longer than you do. My dad still has one that is 30 years old. Mine is 9 and a half years old, Keep it oiled and repaint it every couple of years and everyone thinks it is brand spankin new.

High5

03-03-2002, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by Brandon
nobody said much about cast vs the stamped - get cast!!

The other one SUCKS, honestly it is day and night!

i would like to hear why. i have used both and as far as operation i canot tell the difference. i personally have the stamped version and i have used mine ALOT in the 5 or 6 years that i have had it and it has never given me a problem. i do like the cast because of the end clamping piece (which i bough and put on my stamped version) but to say the stamped "SUCKS" i just can't see.

Bones

03-03-2002, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Brandon
nobody said much about cast vs the stamped - get cast!!

The other one SUCKS, honestly it is day and night!

Didn't read mine post then huh? I bought the cast and it's POS IMHO. I'll probably get another just like it, but I'm not impressed with mine at all!

Any other companies make these fawkers. Not the one from Tractor Supply either :D I'll try another company before I waste it on another Hi-Lift.

92xj

03-03-2002, 12:42 PM

Hey, brandon and bones, no offense intended here, but how about some reasons? If this is supposed to be college level off-roading, I don't think "it sucks" is a useful post without some reasons behind it.

I've got the greatest respect for you guys from other posts you've made. And I've been checking out brandon's RCRC website lately, you answer all the questions there and obviously you know your stuff. But even when you're right, it sure would help us slow folks if you'd give some reasons and not just say "it sucks."

On the cast versus steel issue, I posted way up above that I thought there was no difference in the body of the two jacks. I got that from the Hi-Lift web site FAQs http://www.hi-lift.com/jacks%20faq's.htm

Hi-Lift Jack Frequently Asked Questions

Q: What is the difference between the All-Cast (red)
Jack and the Cast & Steel (Black) Jack?
A: The All-Cast Jack is made of all cast parts, while the Cast &
Steel Jack has cast parts, along with 4 stamped steel parts.

Q: Which Jack is stronger or better?
A: Both Jacks have the same features and weight capacities
ANSI/ASME 4660 lbs. (7000 lbs.). The all-cast jack will last
longer when frequently used, but both jacks are very
durable.

Also, my jack wasn't made by Tractor Supply, Tractor Supply is the store where I bought my red Hi-Lift jack, for $42.

Bones

03-03-2002, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by 92xj
Hey, brandon and bones, no offense intended here, but how about some reasons? If this is supposed to be college level off-roading, I don't think "it sucks" is a useful post without some reasons behind it.

I think you are missing what I mean here. Look at my PIC and that's why IMHO I think the cast Hi-Lift is a POS :flipoff2: It has NEVER even been used other than my flat driveway! Try reading what I said before posting your nonsense. I do have reasons that I already stated for disliking the cast Hi-Lift.

I do want to try another maker of these as well, since I'm obviously not impressed here.

1. Yeah, 60 inches is too much, but that's the Hijack Company is all about, extreme lifts. If you're afraid of standing out of the crowd, stick with the Skyjacker 8-inch lift kit or something else tiny like that. But if you've got the balls, go ahead and go for the 60-inch lift. It'll let you run those 96-inch boggers you've been dying to have and it's great for picking up girls (in fact, you have to pick them up to get them to the passenger seat).
I don't understand your point here either? NO 60" is not to much!! What if where you need to use your hi-lift, there is a deep rut, I could see the extra 12" being very helpfull.

I have no respect for any of your posts since they all contain no info what-so-ever except a few FAQ's from a website. :rolleyes:

92xj

03-03-2002, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by 92xj

1. Yeah, 60 inches is too much, but that's what the Hijack Company is all about, extreme lifts....

Originally posted by Bones

I don't understand your point here either? NO 60" is not to much!! What if where you need to use your hi-lift, there is a deep rut, I could see the extra 12" being very helpfull.

I can see here that you carefully read the first 6 words of every paragragh, that's a good start. Read a little further and you might catch the joke.

The only ways to bend a hi-lift like that are (1) to lift more than the rated load, (2) lift at an angle, or (3) let the load heel over because you didn't brace it properly. Any I-beam construction is designed to take its full rated weight only in a direct vertical line, not at an odd angle.

I'd suggest you get another hi-lift jack, that one's not safe any more.

Bones

03-03-2002, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by 92xj
The only ways to bend a hi-lift like that are (1) to lift more than the rated load, (2) lift at an angle, or (3) let the load heel over because you didn't brace it properly. Any I-beam construction is designed to take its full rated weight only in a direct vertical line, not at an odd angle.

I'd suggest you get another hi-lift jack, that one's not safe any more.
Gee thanks for the info there chump. You have added nothing to this thread valuble at all. You just make smart ass comments to make yourself feel better I guess.

Didn't I post it twice that I only used this in my driveway? Or did you not see that? I would hope that a 4runner and a Tacoma wouldn't strain the "best" jack for this sport.

Hey thanks for telling me to get another, since I stated that on the first post I made numb nuts :flipoff2: I'm through wasting my time double and tripple posting to your lame attemps at including tech to this thread.

Moab Austin

03-03-2002, 05:48 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 92xj
[B]

Here ya go, Moab

http://www.oppositelock.com/images/recover02.jpg

see that thing!!!

is it a gimmick??
I think it would be cool on the rocks..

on good Blow and your all jacked!

92xj

03-03-2002, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Moab Austin

one good Blow and your all jacked!

LMAO.....Damn, moab, copyright that and sell it to 'em for a slogan.

They call them exhaust jacks - it might not be high enough for normal usage on a lifted jeep but I can think of some situations on the rocks where it would come in handy. I was thinking it would help in a real bad mudhole, too, to break the suction and get you in a better position to winch out. Here's a couple links:

http://www.4wdworld.com.au/powerjac.htm

http://www.oppositelock.com/images/recover02.jpg