About due for tires again. Thinking about getting either these(SSR's) or the new km's in a 33x12.5. Is anyone running these on a daily driver, how is the tread wearing. Flame away....thanks....

i have 35x12.50 ssr's. they wear ok on the road and are not that noisy. blew a sidewall though. they're really good on the rocks, better than the last set of bfg muds i had.

i have 33 ssr and i love them on the street they are quiter then sx's and handle great, in the mud i havent been impressed but i dont care for the mud that much anyways :p

dude dont waste your money on the ssr's i had 33's and killed them in three months during the summer yes its hot down here were i live. your going to think im dumb but buy tsl thats the best swamper out there for road and trailing. they wear better not loud and they are the cheapest as far as radial :flipoff2: buy bias ply you will never know the different .im running 38 tsl now and luv them the balance perfectly i drive from carolina to montreal,nyc all over the place with them. in fact i just sold them and im buying 39.5 tsl so there you go hoped that helped.ssr wear too fast....

the ssr lugs cut and rip easily, a day in the rocks and you will prolly have slicks so many lugs will be missing

I loved mine. They rode nice as hell on the road, better than MT's, and stuck to rocks good. They are soft though and wore fast.

J. J.

they scar real bad, i agree with TJ7 get some TSL' bias and just try and bust em! they ware good too!

Chris G.

tsl are ok but me and about everyone around here i talked to hated them with out running beadlocks because you cant keep them on the rim if u air down very much..i popped beads ramping...just normal driving in the snow...u name it..i like the sx's a ton better than the tsl bias ply. not to mention how badly they flat spot on cold days especially. procomps xterra got really good all round rating but its no swamper...

I love mine good manners on the road and they seem to be wearing pretty well, also I do alot of hunting and have not had a complaint yet going through the woods or on trail rides.

I have the 33x12.50s and have been VERY happy with them. They ride great on the road (70 mile round trip commute...) and grab anything in site off road. Only down side is the price. I'll prob try a set of the regular TSLs next time around since they are cheaper.:beer:

the ssr lugs cut and rip easily, a day in the rocks and you will prolly have slicks so many lugs will be missing

I have had my SSR's for about a year and a half and my lugs are fine. I do however have two buddy's whose SSR's are wasted. One after 2 trips to Rubicon and the other after only one trip. I think Interco did something to mess up the rubber compound. Both these guys got theirs well after I did. I do not in any way go easy on my tires either. Somthing changed. I love my SSR's as I have had no problems with them but now after hearing and seeing all the rubber problems I don't know what to do for a 35x12.50 swamper:(

I have them. Stick like glue, thin sidewalls.

Went through three of them back East

For the same price as the SSRs you can get some MT/Rs from goodyear. The MT/Rs are indestructable and for me they have worn WAY better than my SSRs did. I never had any problem with the chunking of lugs on my SSRs, but the sidewalls weren't the strongest. The MT/Rs won't even scuff though. They work well on rocks, really well in sand/snow, and decent in mud. I would go a set of MT/Rs, personally. I liked my SSRs, and you get odd looks from people driving through town with em, but they aren't as durable as the MT/Rs.

My SSR's have 15K on them and over half of the tread is gone. I have found them great on slick rock but they just can't handle the really rough terrain of South and West Texas.

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MT
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I've seen one too many SSR's with lugs missing. Go with MT/R's!

if anyone has been to disney (OKLA) they know that we have some of the sharpest rocks around and SSR's just dont hold up, or MRT's TSL's bias is the only way to fly...hell i have lugs almost cut in half on my TSL's and i have only wheel a dozen times on them...still about 2x better than the last tire lasted (TSL radial)



Chris G.

Originally posted by 1MutCJ7
I've seen one too many SSR's with lugs missing. Go with MT/R's!

I am getting the MT/R 315/75 R16 which is more costly than the 35x12.50 R15 because the 315's have an 8 PLY sidewall. That was news to me but I will be happy with the extra two plys.

Ive seen SSRs work and fail, my advice is go with TSLs. I have lots of scars and cuts in mine and they are still holdin. My old sawybar system rubbed huge gashes in the inside of the front wo tires, b4 i took them off completely. Despite all damage they are still wheelin strong (even though they are 42s).

I just came here from JU, and im glad i saw this post... Everyone at JU said it was the best tire you can buy, I'm glad I've heard some actual experience with the tire, other than 4th and 5th hand mumbo jumbo. I was origionally planning on the 35X14.5 SSR's on my CJ7, but that much money for a tire with weak sidewalls, and a short tread life isnt worth it.

What would you guys reccomend for a 35X14.5 size swamper? The tires will need to be good on road, since this will most likely be my DD.

Originally posted by Aggie


I am getting the MT/R 315/75 R16 which is more costly than the 35x12.50 R15 because the 315's have an 8 PLY sidewall. That was news to me but I will be happy with the extra two plys.

that would be an 8 ply rating, all MT/R's have a 3 ply sidewall or whatever it is. 8 ply rating just means its a rated for more load and the tread it self is tougher. hell bias TSL's only have 6 ply sidewalls.

Originally posted by NE-RokToy
that would be an 8 ply rating, all MT/R's have a 3 ply sidewall or whatever it is. 8 ply rating just means its a rated for more load and the tread it self is tougher. hell bias TSL's only have 6 ply sidewalls.

:rasta: I feel stupid...Goodyear's MT/R (http://www.goodyeartires.com/catalog/products/WRLMTR.html)
Aint that just like a salesperson to leave out the word "rating".

So what the heck does 8 Ply Rating mean?

The Goodyear MT/Rs are similar in price, until you get into the 37"s. I just got the 37 SSRs two weeks ago for $250 a piece. The MT/Rs are $700 per tire!!!:eek: :eek:

Yes that is right, not a typo, $700 for a tire.

The 37" SSRs are wearing well on the street, no trail work yet.
They are very quiet (I can hear the stereo again), and have excellent handling on wet pavement.
I know several guys running the SSRs on SuperDuty Fords, who are pulling 30000 miles out of a set of tires.
My YJ weighs a little less than a Super Duty, I should be able to get similar mielage, except for offroad wear.

out of a batch of 8 ssr's, i saw 3 unravel and split on a tj in just a few thousand miles. it was freaky. all on the same jeep, all in just a couple of months.

mfg4rox , MT/R's indestructable ??? Hardly !! I have a good friend that has ripped the sidewalls on 4 of them so far. NO tire is indestructable. I've seen, in the last month or so, a person rip the sidewall out of an SX.
Anyway, the SSR's are great on the road. They DO have a soft compound and will wear quicker than say an MT/R.. On the kind of rocks that we have here in Arizona, they stick like glue.
Some people here rip sidewalls, some don't. I believe it has a lot to do with driving "style"/skill, etc. I run mine at 6 psi, off road, and have folded the sidewalls over the rim before, and no problems at all. There seems to be close to a 50/50 split now, the people here running MT/Rs and those running SSR's. With that being said, I know of more MT/R's with ripped sidewalls out here than SSR's. This is what I know of personally. The MT/R's seem to grip well on the rocks here also, but they pretty much suck in the little bit of mud that we get here. We've also observed that MT/R's will often sort of "side slide" on the rocks here. I haven't seen that with the SSR's. Several people that I see here have the SX's. The limited experience that I've seen with them seem to indicate that they do as good on the rocks here as the SSR's. They are harsher on the road. The compound may be even softer than the SSR's and they seem to wear maybe a little faster.
Regarding the 8 ply "rating" of the MT/R's. the SSR's in the 16 inch size have a 10 ply rated sidewall, but are expensive.
Anyway, I have SSR's and have 0 plans to change. Will buy them again when the wear out.
Anyway, the MT/R's will certainly be a "better" on road tire, though the SSR's are quite. The MT/R's seem to wear better on road, which is to expected with the SSR's super soft compound.

Cheers,
Fred

What would you guys reccomend for a 35X14.5 size swamper? The tires will need to be good on road, since this will most likely be my DD. [/B][/QUOTE]

I bought a set of 15/35-15 Bias tsls for my F150, and they are great! Sure they "flat spot" but after 5 miles they're fine. I have about 3000 miles(speedo's broke) on them and narry a problem. Wonderful in the mud, snow, and sand.

SSR's have varied characteristics. Depends on the production facility, time, or whatever.:p
I've seen SSR's run 4ever, as well as seen them thrashed out on 1st time runs.
I wore out a set of SSR's on my XJ after only one year, currently running Pro-Comp A/Ts Best of both worlds for me, they have a more open tread design as compared to other A/Ts, not as much as my mudders, never slashed one(yet).
:smokin: :beer:

Originally posted by Aggie

So what the heck does 8 Ply Rating mean?

Marketing. The story I've been told has it like this: It's a caryover from the olden days when all tires were nylon bias ply.

In a nutshell:

The more plys a bias ply tire had, the heavier load it could carry. Way back when, this actually referred to the physical number of nylon plys the tire actually had.

When radials came out, they no longer needed all those plys because the design offers better inherent load-carrying capability with fewer layers of belts. They didn't want people to assume that this meant that their tires were inferior so they took the number of plys that would be necessary in a nylon bias ply tire and said that was the "ply rating" for their tire even though it may only have had half the number of actual layers of belts as the bias ply of similar load rating.

When steel belts replaced nyon belts the same thing happened with steel-belted bias ply tires -- manufacturers opted to go with the "ply rating" instead of the actual number of plys because it made better ad copy and sold more tires to clueless consumers who can't tell a steel ply from from a nylon ply from shinola.

So basically it just became industry convention.


Jake

I'm on my second set...the first set of 33's lasted by through 40,000 miles. They did get cut up on the rocks,but it just acted as custom siping. They are sticky on the rocks and great on the road. If it is your everyday driver and off-road Jeep, definitely get them. :cool: