Have you gone to cross over steering in your rig? Post up with pictures and descriptions of how you did it.

its dark outside, not very good for pics. I started with Rockstomper x-over... steering arm, draglink and tie rod. Recently I switched to WFO Concepts double arms which relocate my tierod behind/above by D60. I kept the rockstomper steering parts... just shortened them a bit to fit the newer arms/location.

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I went with ORD xover arm, drop pitman and drag link
hard to see here but this is the only under shot I have...
was at inspection station... doing the tilt test.. passed...

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=193896&original=1

I can't believe only two of you have done it.

I went with ORD xover arm, drop pitman and drag link
hard to see here but this is the only under shot I have...
was at inspection station... doing the tilt test.. passed...

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=193896&original=1

i can't belive they actually think something would flip on that, or does the picture not show how steep it really is, just an off topic comment

i can't belive they actually think something would flip on that, or does the picture not show how steep it really is, just an off topic comment

pics dont show how bad it is... however they said even when they allowed 44's on NJ roads NO ONE ever flipped....

what they do is you drive onto the flat ramp (which is a scale)
you get out and they weigh your truck
then you drive on the incline and they weigh the passenger side. This gives them a % weight shift.. too much and you fail....

now my truck being a fullsize is not bad.. however my friend drove on it for fun and a small truck.... oh boy....
http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/detail.php?id=8011&s=24452#content

cant find his tire shot.. he had less than 1/2 his tread on pavement and I had 3/4 tread on pavement.... :smokin:

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/221552/fullsize/george2.jpg

also the owner of the blazer is in this pic with my truck..
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/193902/fullsize/root6.jpg

I can't believe only two of you have done it.

I can't believe we need another thread on crossover. try 'search'
post your crossover pics, Paul.

I can't believe we need another thread on crossover. try 'search'
post your crossover pics, Paul.

Obviously you do not understnd the meaning of the words "Discussion Topic"

not too much to discuss on crossover steering
gotta be 40 vendors selling the parts, 10000 threads on it, several online detailed write ups...

I have some images showing the D44 flattop knuckles from 80s Dodge 3/4 ton and from 70s Ford 3/4 ton
that may help someone if they are still running the snap crackle pop running gear...

ford 3/4 ton in primer. you need to look for the raised bosses on the PS knuckle. will be the same for chev and dodge
http://www3.telus.net/mjmillar/4x4/dana44balljoints/DSCF0164.jpg

doesnt look like the good dodge image made the cut but here is what they look like.
if you need to see the under side lemme know I can shoot it
the removeable brake bracket looks easy to adapt if you insist on running rubber mounted chev calipers...
http://www3.telus.net/mjmillar/4x4/dana44balljoints/DSCF0167.jpg

I used the ORD bent link, 6" dropped pitman, and a steerinjg arm from shaker. Also used a reman steering gear box from 2wd. It is easy on a 60. :flipoff2:

It is nice to be able to turn the wheels lock to lock no matter how the axle is aticulated. She also turns on a dime. I can spin the steering wheel with 1 finger sitting still on the blacktop now.

What I dont like is I get a lot of "sway steer". Kinda like bump steer but on corners when the truck sways a little. Does anyone else get this?

Charlo

leaf springs are probably moving sideways

What about cross over steering on a 10 bolt front end? I have a friend that is going to swap in a set of 3/4 ton axles (14 bolt, 10 bolt) from me and he's going to need better steering down the road. I heard somewhere that a flat top dana 44 knuckle can swap onto the 10 bolt. Is this true? Has anybody tackled crossover on a 10 bolt?

What about cross over steering on a 10 bolt front end? I have a friend that is going to swap in a set of 3/4 ton axles (14 bolt, 10 bolt) from me and he's going to need better steering down the road. I heard somewhere that a flat top dana 44 knuckle can swap onto the 10 bolt. Is this true? Has anybody tackled crossover on a 10 bolt?

10 bolts and d44 use the same ends

Holy Post Ressurection!

I still havent found any good information on this topic

I still havent found any good information on this topic


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Holy Post Ressurection! _

D60, Cross over, ORD, Ballistic Hi steer arms......
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/K20%20Build/10-7-10007.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/K20%20Build/10-7-10005.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/K20%20Build/10-7-10004.jpg

D60, Cross over, ORD, Ballistic Hi steer arms......
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/K20%20Build/10-7-10007.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/K20%20Build/10-7-10005.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/K20%20Build/10-7-10004.jpg

Sweet Thank you after lookin through about 200 threads some good information about what I am gettin ready to order it looks pretty straight forward But I only have one question what about steering Stabilizers?

I havent mounted it yet. Im going hydro assist. Also It might hit, i need to shorten the tie rod........

I havent mounted it yet. Im going hydro assist. Also It might hit, i need to shorten the tie rod........

Thanks for all the info bud It really helped me alot

WOW what an old thread! ...... oh well Ill play......

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx329/nathan_adams16/20100815_7.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx329/nathan_adams16/20100815_9.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx329/nathan_adams16/023.jpg

Thanks to Sky Manufacturing and a local machine shop it went together quite easily.

Thanks for all the info bud It really helped me alot

What are you putting it on? I am running Sky Mfg crossover, highsteer, and high steer arms, all with 1 ton tre. Also a redneck ram. It is all coming off in a month or so and I am going full hydro.

What are you putting it on? I am running Sky Mfg crossover, highsteer, and high steer arms, all with 1 ton tre. Also a redneck ram. It is all coming off in a month or so and I am going full hydro.

Putting it all in a 1991 Chevrolet Suburban

If you want I can snap some pics of it and see if you are interested in buying it. I can snap some pics if you just want to see it too. Let me know.

If you want I can snap some pics of it and see if you are interested in buying it. I can snap some pics if you just want to see it too. Let me know.

Would love to see it

will do tonight.

This is what I did on one of my 3+3's.

I bought the pitman, draglink, TRE's and steering arm w/ studs from Sky.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6599/dsc0023qq.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4264/dsc0024gu.jpg

Im a cheap ass. I got a jeep cherokee pitman arm had it reamed out used stock tie rod ends both right hand threads cut it to length and am going to tap the hole. Priceing goes as follows.

Pitman arm: free fit in my boot ;). Drag link:free used it off my 10 bolt I had left laying around from swapping to a dana 60. Tie rod ends about 35$ from oriellys. Had the pit man arm reamed for 15$. Got the cross over arm from parts mike with studs for 185$.

I'll post pics when I get off my dead a$$ and tap the other end.

Joker4x4 I noticed on the drivers side you kept the origional arm on the spindle set. Will it do any harm to cut if off or is it just fine I was thinkin it might hit thats why I was thinkin of cutting it off. Just wandering

Joker4x4 I noticed on the drivers side you kept the origional arm on the spindle set. Will it do any harm to cut if off or is it just fine I was thinkin it might hit thats why I was thinkin of cutting it off. Just wandering

It doesn't hit anything. The cap will be gone when I machine a Hy-STeer arm.

JOKER

It doesn't hit anything. The cap will be gone when I machine a Hy-STeer arm.

JOKER

Ahh ok

I am unsure weather or not I will install the high stear kit with the cross over steering as I want to keep a steering dampner on it somehow and with the high steer kit installed the only way i can see to put a dapner on it will affect the cross over setup. Any suggestions?

Here is my Sky MFG stuff. The high steer looks tweaked, but its just the pic, I went back and checked. It is a complete Redneck Ram assist kit, with them rebuilding the box and tapping it.

I used the ORD bent link, 6" dropped pitman, and a steerinjg arm from shaker. Also used a reman steering gear box from 2wd. It is easy on a 60. :flipoff2:

It is nice to be able to turn the wheels lock to lock no matter how the axle is aticulated. She also turns on a dime. I can spin the steering wheel with 1 finger sitting still on the blacktop now.

What I dont like is I get a lot of "sway steer". Kinda like bump steer but on corners when the truck sways a little. Does anyone else get this?

Charlo

Y do need a 2wd gear box? I have seen a lot of people do it and say it but never was told y??

Y do need a 2wd gear box? I have seen a lot of people do it and say it but never was told y??

The sector shaft on a 2wd box allows you to index the pitman arm so that it turns left/right instead of front/back like stock when you turn the wheel.

You can swap the sector shaft out for a 2wd one, or just swap out the box.

My set up was made by Rockstomper around 10 years ago and has been on 3 trucks. The steering box was done by West Texas Offroad. The arm is from Sky. It was set up for 4" lift but works fine at less then 2".

http://photos.imageevent.com/btsnpcs1990/bitsnpiecesbuild/engineswap/websize/K5%20stuff%20069.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/btsnpcs1990/downedwheelerride/websize/010.JPG

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215555_1909465010175_1048346720_32192129_6095523_n .jpg

Does your drag link hit the engine crossmember? Just curious, because it looks like mine did before I "shaved it".

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4264/dsc0024gu.jpg

Has anybody ran a "T" style crossover setup without using a highsteer arm? I am looking to keep the steering budget low until i upgrade to a D60.

do it right.

At full stuff it will just touch it.

At full stuff it will just touch it.

I talked to you at all truck, have you switched to full hydro? I keep debating whether i want to switch to full hydro vs assist.

Isnt a bend in the drag link a "no-no"?
This is what I did on one of my 3+3's.

I bought the pitman, draglink, TRE's and steering arm w/ studs from Sky.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6599/dsc0023qq.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4264/dsc0024gu.jpg

I talked to you at all truck, have you switched to full hydro? I keep debating whether i want to switch to full hydro vs assist.

No, I have not switched. I want to but.... $$$ Anyhow, if it's trail only I would go full hydro.

What kind of leeway do we have with horizontal drag link angle? Front to back?

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Do I see 2 tie rods?

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Nice job, its coming out great

Thanks :D
It drives nice too. A little different, some sideways movement on the springs, but I was aware of that.
Maybe a panhard bar?

Yes 2 tierods. The OE was there to do easy measurement for the histeer.

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is that green block attached to the frame? if so, do the hoses have enough slack for when the suspension moves?

on a side note, man i gotta get over to your country sometime. you guys have the cool hillclimbs, and the wheeling looks epic among other things.

The green block is welded to the frame/bumpstop bracket.
If not, the hoses will be able to move between bumpstop and top of the spring, and could be harmed.
There is enough slack for hose movement, both in and out flex

Isnt a bend in the drag link a "no-no"?

when it is kept reasonably short in height and shallow on angle it is not an issue.

when they have a 10" drop @ 60* they will stretch and compress when push/pulled on.

Whats the best and cheapest way to get crossover steering on a 10 bolt

Scrap it and buy a Dana 60?

Whats the best and cheapest way to get crossover steering on a 10 bolt

Oy .... There is only one correct way to do it and its bot neccesarily the cheapest. Look on page 1 of this thread and you will see towards the bottom a truck with a Dana 44 and crossover steering. Look at those parts he used and go get them on your truck. Basically it revolves around having a passenger side flat top knuckle.