ya i know it is just another :rainbow: street pounder but i can't decide what to do with the new tow rig. keep in mind that i am gonna be getting a 40 foot toy house 5th wheel to haul my rig in.

Dude - keep it stock and let it do what it is supposed to do - PULL. Don't go screwing up your fuel mileage, etc. with a lift and big tires - just not worth it IMHO :p

I've got 35 on my tow rig but I'm not pulling a 5th wheel. Mines a ball mount trailer. But if I was to do over again I would leave it stock.

I'm leaving mine stock for now. Probably forever. It's driving my buddy (who owns a 4wd shop) absolutely nuts. He bought a 2001 Dodge Ram and lifted it 6" and put 35's on it. Then while he was towing the driveline bound up (too steep of an angle) and broke his tcase in half. I was like, "yeah, sweet lift pal" :laughing: . Anyway, he wants me to lift it. He says it's gay as hell stock. I say I'm not trying to impress anyone with my tow rig, I like the way it rides now, I like the way it tows now, I like that it's not too loud on the freeway now, I like that it doesn't go through tires like crazy now, etc, etc. I guess I'm getting old, but I'm really starting to believe that lifted pavement pounders are just stupid. Lifts on the street don't do anything but look cool, waste gas, decrease handling, decrease towing cap, sometimes decrease load cap, blah, blah. Like I said, I'm gettin old, and I like my stock F250 just fine. Also, when I have $2000 for tires and lift just burning a hole in my pocket, that'll be the day I buy my Atlas II.

If you are going to be pulling with it then leave it stock. Spend the money on Exhaust, Air Ram, Guages, Propane, Chip, or if you went with a :rainbow: gasser then do all the same except replace propane with nitrous. :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

On edit I see you were wise and purchased a PSD

Can you say new injectors and propane. Stock and 600+HP will make you alot happier than 37's and gutles. :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Keep it stock. It's a tow rig so why screw around with reliability?

Originally posted by Aceguy
I'm leaving mine stock for now. Probably forever. It's driving my buddy (who owns a 4wd shop) absolutely nuts. He bought a 2001 Dodge Ram and lifted it 6" and put 35's on it. Then while he was towing the driveline bound up (too steep of an angle) and broke his tcase in half. I was like, "yeah, sweet lift pal" :laughing: . Anyway, he wants me to lift it. He says it's gay as hell stock. I say I'm not trying to impress anyone with my tow rig, I like the way it rides now, I like the way it tows now, I like that it's not too loud on the freeway now, I like that it doesn't go through tires like crazy now, etc, etc. I guess I'm getting old, but I'm really starting to believe that lifted pavement pounders are just stupid. Lifts on the street don't do anything but look cool, waste gas, decrease handling, decrease towing cap, sometimes decrease load cap, blah, blah. Like I said, I'm gettin old, and I like my stock F250 just fine. Also, when I have $2000 for tires and lift just burning a hole in my pocket, that'll be the day I buy my Atlas II.

You forgot to mention that tj had to remove the lift to get it warrantied! Way too much work imo. leave it stock, and BOMB it! you should have enough money left from not lifting it to make it perform as if it was a stock cummins!!:flipoff2:

Sorry, man, but I had to vote stock... I've made the mistake of modifying tow rigs before, and it's better to just leave 'em alone. I even bought a 2WD tow rig this time, so I would be that much less tempted to build it. Add onto that it's a dually, and I'm even more screwed (or saved) on modifying it--since it's against my nature to lower it, I'm leaving it alone and just pulling with it. Honestly, that's the best way (IMHO) to do it.

Leave it stock, and then write a check to me for the amount you would have spent on the goodies :flipoff2: I need the money ..... :rasta:

Originally posted by Aggro
You forgot to mention that tj had to remove the lift to get it warrantied! Way too much work imo. leave it stock, and BOMB it! you should have enough money left from not lifting it to make it perform as if it was a stock cummins!!:flipoff2:

I wasn't mentioning who it was because of that little fact, bright boy. Nice work. Also, "perform" is a pretty relative term. If you mean pull a house, I'll never outpull it. If you mean speed, my V10 laughs at that POS Dodge diesel.

you guys are damning me to eternal gayness :flipoff2: getting old sucks.

Scott said pretty much what I was thinking, but did it in a much nicer way. I'll just leave it at that.

Leave it stock so you're not tempted to cruise the mall with all of your rice buddies :D:D:D:D:D. Besdies, you already got your real rig.

Why lift it? My neighbor has a 2001 crewcab 350 with 8" lift and 38" swampers. Drives it back and forth to work :rolleyes: If it's a tow rig, I'd take it the other way, lower it and make it handle decent on the road - but I prefer 2wd tow rigs.

Camo, I got my 2wd just for the very reason to remove the temptation :D:D:D:D


http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/f250-01.jpg

Originally posted by camo
you guys are damning me to eternal gayness :flipoff2: getting old sucks.

Amen to that. I sold my 300zx this morning because I hardly ever drove it and couldn't remember why I was still making the payment. My cool factor is plumetting by the second, I think inversely proportional to my age skyrocketing. Pretty soon I'll be that old man that buys the aluminum UGLY ASS camper shell at the garage sale for $50 and puts it on his $30000 rig cause it's "economical". I wanna be in high school again. :crybaby2:

Originally posted by DRM
Camo, I got my 2wd just for the very reason to remove the temptation :D:D:D:D


http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/f250-01.jpg

hey fab tech makes a cool long travel pre runner suspension for that thing. :D

I think you can get the little blue lights that replace your windshield wiper sprayers for it too. I'm pretty sure they're bolt on for the Fords.

Can I change my vote? I thought you were just gonna haul a bumper pull trailer around. You could probably get away with pulling a gooseneck trailer that high, but a 5th wheel would be out of the question.

You gonna start looking at Silverlite car haulers (www.silverlite.com) with the living quarters in them now?

Originally posted by FYRMAN
Can I change my vote? I thought you were just gonna haul a bumper pull trailer around. You could probably get away with pulling a gooseneck trailer that high, but a 5th wheel would be out of the question.

You gonna start looking at Silverlite car haulers (www.silverlite.com) with the living quarters in them now?

good point. i said 5th wheel by habit but i will be getting a goosneck.


nope weekend warrior http://www.warriormfg.com/

Originally posted by camo


hey fab tech makes a cool long travel pre runner suspension for that thing. :D

Already priced the ProComp 6" kit for it... shhhhh :D:D:D:D:D

Originally posted by DRM
Camo, I got my 2wd just for the very reason to remove the temptation :D:D:D:D


http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/f250-01.jpg

I vote for leaving it stock, Camo, but skip the :rainbow: running boards! :flipoff2:

Keep it low, stable, and riding on (relatively) cheap rolling stock.

I thought one of the reasons for a truck n' trailer is that the truck and trailer tires wear a lot better / longer than the Swampers on the trail rig.. so why screw that up? :D

I really, no REALLY like the way my 2wd belly-dragging long-box 4dr tonner hauls. And $85 each for 10ply 235/85-16s are a nice change. Heck, they don't even howl! :D

IMO, most of the lifted SuperDuties are :rainbow:

I see two valid reasons to buy a SD.

1) Lift it, lock it, wheel it. Buy the SD for the leafs and axles.. but how many people wheel the piss out of their $30k+ SD?

2) You need a TRUCK.

If that's the case, it's not going to tow better, ride nicer, or haul more if you put a lift on it and bigger tires unless your definition of "hauling" is to go through a big mud swamp to get to a stand of trees to cut for firewood then haul it back out through the swamp.

Chalk up a vote for stockers.

so does anybody know of a BB that has usefull tech on the f350?

Originally posted by camo
so does anybody know of a BB that has usefull tech on the f350?


This is the best one around (http://forums.ford-diesel.com/ubbthreads/)

camo - pops put a 2" skyjacker lift on the front of his to level it out, then go for the all the power stuff out there.

Originally posted by Brandon
camo - pops put a 2" skyjacker lift on the front of his to level it out, then go for the all the power stuff out there.

thats what i am starting to think. already have the 90hp chip on order and will get the exhaust done in a few weeks

Originally posted by camo
so does anybody know of a BB that has usefull tech on the f350?

Well, PowerStroke stuff...

http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/

How far off the road does that rig have to pull a trailer?

If it's pavement ONLY, drop it a few inches.

thanks for the link and the laughs. those fawkers think these things are wheelers LOL

even mor e funny is the posers

At least put some (metric LT) 33's on it--255/85s or 285/75s. A 2" leveling kit wouldn't hurt either. The crew cabs are so long they look seriously gay w/the stock tires--but I guess I don't really care since I'll never have to look at your truck anyway. I run 255/85s on my Dodge and am happy with them, enough of a difference from stock that it sets it apart a bit, but not so much that it drives like crap. Plus, they ride better (than my stock ones), are good in the snow, and dropped my highway rpm a bit.

Pete

are you guys telling me you don't think 8" lift and 38 swampers is cool? :D how the hell does he get in this thing ?

Camo,

What are some of the specs (weight, towing capacity, cost, etc) for that warrior trailer? Thought about getting something like that at one time but for wheeling up in n. ca. it doesn't make too much sense...

was unable to get their website to work...

Originally posted by camo
are you guys telling me you don't think 8" lift and 38 swampers is cool? :D how the hell does he get in this thing ?

:D It would be :cool: if it wasn't in a parking lot.

I'd even settle for some mild dune-running...

But to live with Swampers every day and burn them up on asphalt? :rainbow:

Then again, I bet you could score with the high-school kids... if that were your thing. :D

I agree with Fryman, and the other leave it stock, get a sticker that says "Your cool" or something to boost you up a little,

but even if you got a lift, that seems like a lot of strin your going to put on the gooseneck, also the trailer will more then likly eat the sides of your bed when you lift it

Originally posted by camo
are you guys telling me you don't think 8" lift and 38 swampers is cool? :D how the hell does he get in this thing ?


Ya i think it looks cool but not practical for what you want to use it for.

Camo, two words: BAG IT

Oh hell yeah. I'm getting a puller next year or the year after an I will be putting it on the ground!!! :D Do it!!!! Lifted trucks and towing is over rated and :rainbow:

www.ridetech.com

This is what mine will look like but in dark blue or silver:
http://img.sportruck.com/events/sts01/37.jpg

http://img.sportruck.com/events/ctj01/137.jpg
http://img.sportruck.com/events/ff01/103.jpg

Since your a Ford fan :rolleyes: :barf: :flipoff2:

http://img.sportruck.com/events/tn01/29.jpg
http://img.sportruck.com/events/ctj00/27.jpg

Donahoe is doing some BITCH'in Super Duty stuff. Chech it out.

I'm running 38.7" Michelin 325/85R16 XMLs on my F350 crewcab with 2" lift (add-a-leaves) and a major Sawzall/Bushwacker job on the fenders. Just rubs on the springs at full lock. It's a 4 wheeling/camping/expedition truck. The don't NEED much of lift to wheel, with big tires they are high enough to 'wheel. The big lifts just make them them top-heavy and hard to get into. See mine at www.ford-diesel.com, "contents", "featured trucks", "Charlie Aaron's truck". Before I put the 325s on.
Charlie

This is a tow rig :flipoff2:

http://poseur.4x4.org/crusader2.jpg

All the rest are way :rainbow:

Whataya think Camo, would ya feel :rainbow: owning this bad boy?

Whatever you do dont be a :rainbow: boy and lower the thing. I vote for 35's which ever way you want to get them on there! Lowering is for faggs either way you look at it, cars and trucks.

yeah towing with 35s grate idea :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
yeah towing with 35s grate idea :rolleyes:

whats wrong with towing with 35" ?

Originally posted by camo


whats wrong with towing with 35" ?

Usually it means a lot more sidewall. Sidewall flex while towing is not an advantage. :D

now, if you mean 35x12.50-17... that's different. :D

i fawked up a good tow rig with a 4" lift and some 36s. so i vote to leave it stock, it will pull way better, get better miliage and be worth more when you sell it. the first thing i would do to your rig is get a exhaust gas temp gage. you will run alot hotter with the chip and if you put bigger tires it will run even hotter. you can melt down the motor with a chip and a big trailer, for sure if you jack it up and add some big meats. but you will be miles ahead if you leave it stock.

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Usually it means a lot more sidewall. Sidewall flex while towing is not an advantage. :D

now, if you mean 35x12.50-17... that's different. :D

guess i didn't specify. of course i would run 17"

ya see you want the ting to hug the road and not sway and bounce every where. if yah want to bee :cool: then go for it.
if you want the the ting to handel so you dont have wite knuckels and spill your load.. lower it.
ther is one of these lowerd and the guy tows with it and mad I have heard the handeling is grate.

http://www.73-87chevytrucks.com/doug.jpg

look at your funny cars you dont see them with 35s

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot


look at your funny cars you dont see them with 35s

I've never seen a funny car tow a 40' goose neck either. What is your point?

Originally posted by Ben W


I've never seen a funny car tow a 40' goose neck either. What is your point?

I dont think a funny car whould handel too good with 35s

Camo 35's are not that bad. My brother has a 01 Cummins Ram with a 2 inch lift and 35's they are 16's. It has a chip, exhaust, bleed of for the turbo. It will suck the doors off any stock Mustang and pulls like a bull. 1st gear with stock tires is worthless with a 6 speed and with 35's I still start out in 2nd. The wind does catch it more since the tires and lift. Whatever you do get the EGT (Exhaust Gas Temp) and boost gauge. Pulling long hills with the chip can over heat them. You can change the turbo housing and add a exhaust brake and gain some HP plus lower temps.

it's not about being old, it's about being smart. I'm only 19 and I would kill to have a tow rig. F250 PSD, that's my dream truck. If somehow i managed to get one there's NO WAY i would lift it. i'd rather put that money towards the coilovers i want and keep my truck pulling as well as it can.,

-Steve

now only if I had a few bucks :(
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_1983e94ec635b9229757ea720/i-1_B.JPG

you're gettin it all wrong
this is what you want if you wanna haul

Originally posted by offroadr35
it's not about being old, it's about being smart. I'm only 19 and I would kill to have a tow rig. F250 PSD, that's my dream truck. If somehow i managed to get one there's NO WAY i would lift it. i'd rather put that money towards the coilovers i want and keep my truck pulling as well as it can.,

-Steve

ok so old can be cool. i have a 350 AND coilovers :flipoff2:

Camo......... leave it stock.....



or do it like this:

http://www.nsor.com/testdrive/2001/japan-sd/jsd-14.jpg




:D :D :D :D

Originally posted by camo


ok so old can be cool. i have a 350 AND coilovers :flipoff2:

yeah, about the only thing i wouldn't trade for that is being 19 :flipoff2: ;)

Originally posted by camo


ok so old can be cool. i have a 350 AND coilovers :flipoff2:

old is never cool

i did a 5in and put 315/85/15's on mine and it's an F250 with a V10 in it, tows excellent has awesome power on hills and still get's 12mpg when towing... i can't stand the look of stock super duty's, you'll get a good look at mine this weekend i'm sure there camo...

Camo...

Look at that Silverlite again. Look at it with the wife and kids sitting there with you. If you want to keep the wife happy, and the kids from getting high sniffing gas fumes and 90wt., get a trailer with a sealed door between your truck and the living quarters. I know you are going to buy the trailer that you want, and my 2 cents won't sway you much on a purchase this big, but take a good long look at how happy the people you take with you are going to be. If you have a nagging wife and sick kids, how is your weekend going to be? It is going to suck. Been there, done that, had a sinus headache for 3 weeks afterwards, never again. I would rather sleep in a tent on the ground with a huge sharp rock in my back! I'm not tryin to push this Silverlite trailer on you. Just trying to push the sealed door idea.

Of course, I didn't go very far into that site and look to see if they had a trailer like that. Trailers like that usually don't have it anyway, so I just thought I would say something.

Also, dig up that thread we had going about gooseneck hitches. I'll see if I can still find it. Found it. (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29837&highlight=gooseneck+hitches)

I found the pic he posted and at the bottom of the page it says: Divider Wall Option for Garage. So I assume they do that. Now he just needs to take your advice and order that option. :D

Originally posted by FYRMAN
Just trying to push the sealed door idea.

Of course, I didn't go very far into that site and look to see if they had a trailer like that. Trailers like that usually don't have it anyway, so I just thought I would say something.

Also, dig up that thread we had going about gooseneck hitches. I'll see if I can still find it.

Originally posted by Gayguy


I wasn't mentioning who it was because of that little fact, bright boy. Nice work. Also, "perform" is a pretty relative term. If you mean pull a house, I'll never outpull it. If you mean speed, my V10 laughs at that POS Dodge diesel.

Lets see, you know him, I know him his name isn't tj and he (when on porbbs) doesn't go by that either. So nice work righ back at ya, ya fawkin dildo. :flipoff2: I thought this post was about diesels so yeah, I do mean pull / haul. Go race some riceboys if you wanna go fast in your big bad v10! Some people...:rasta: :D

I dont have a tow rig YET! but I would keep it stock and go for the performace mods.

current plans call for a completly sealed off room.

I would leave it stock if you plan to tow from the bed. I have a 1997 f-250 psd and a 35' gooseneck trailer. The back of the trailer drags over when I pull into parking lots. The only way to fix this is to either lower the front of the trailer, can't do that the trailer would hit the bed, or raise the trailer (lift kit), won't do that raise the Center of Gravity not to safe. I am actually planning on buying a new PSD (in a couple of years), but I will buy a four door cab and chasis and make my on bed.

The only thing I would do to your truck is to level the front out, I'm getting ready to do that to mine now.

It's not what you want to hear, but what you gonna do. It is your truck, so do what ever you want.

Craig

camo get a front leveling kit, some 305/75R16 Procomp A/Ts and some decent 16" rims. The reason for the pro-comps is the high load rating and the fact they have a 50,000 mile tread warrenty.

Originally posted by camo
current plans call for a completly sealed off room.

Good call. Another thing FWIW... With that trailer on the back of the truck, it will level out for you. You don't need to spend the money on a leveling kit.:D

Originally posted by Aggro


Lets see, you know him, I know him his name isn't tj and he (when on porbbs) doesn't go by that either. So nice work righ back at ya, ya fawkin dildo. :flipoff2: I thought this post was about diesels so yeah, I do mean pull / haul. Go race some riceboys if you wanna go fast in your big bad v10! Some people...:rasta: :D

LOL. Did I hurt your Cummins' feelings? You Dodge boys are so sensitive sometimes. It's not about diesels, it's about lifting tow rigs. Hell, I didn't even have any reason to start baggin' on Dodges till you came along. They're really not bad trucks, if like, Ford is all out of rigs to sell that day. :laughing: I gotta go now. Me and my big bad v10 gotta get to the drags and whoop on some civics. :flipoff2:

I would have to do the 6" lift and 37s, this way you don't have to worry about door dings :D

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?postid=376465

Lift it like this, then lift the trailer to match:D Gotta get the trailer on Swampers, too.

Seriously, your money would be best spent somewhere else. But whatever you do DONT LOWER IT!!! I don't mean to offend anyone but those trucks (they don't deserve to be called trucks) that are slammed to the ground look :rainbow::rainbow:
And please stop posting pics of slammed trucks on a 4x4 site:barf:

keep it stock, and throw some $$$$ into the engine! smart man, buying a psd

I might as well chime in. Lift that fawker camo!!! Put some big swampers on it and look cool towing! At the very least, the kids will dig it. You know you want to.
can you tell I'm not that far removed from high school? :D

I say just do things that you will benefit from.. if you are gonna throw stuff in the bed and use it as more than just a tow rig, maybe bed rail protectors woudl be good, if you need more room, maybe a tool box. I do say though bag the tires and replace them with something that will get more traction. I say just be practical.. if you are gonna get the truck stuck because it is not tall enough, then i say lift it.. otherwise, leave it stock... I am currently looking at a bone stock chevy.. because my lifted ram is getting annoying driving... plus, it kills the gas milage.. oh, and ya, you can still burn the shit out of little rice boys with a stock higth truck.. I say build up the motor, then go for the pinks, and then you can have a nice little lowered civic to compliment your "stock" f350

I realize cost is not a primary motivator for you, but I'd rather put my $$ into things that'll help it haul. FWIW Im looking seriously at 19.5" wheels for my dodge.. at stock height. awwww yea

Originally posted by camo
ya i know it is just another :rainbow: street pounder but i can't decide what to do with the new tow rig. keep in mind that i am gonna be getting a 40 foot toy house 5th wheel to haul my rig in.
Camo, can I come over and help trim that money tree of yours?

Christ that is one sweet setup man! I'd leave it stock personally, plus your spending a fortune already, why waste more just to look cool running down the highway? I know I know...because you can :flipoff2: :jealous: :D

Leave stock height, but put on some 33's or 285/75's. So it doesn't look so work truck. Buy all the go fast diesel goodies you can. Enjoy :smokin:

I don't remember if anyone mentioned Forddiesel.com. They have a BB will a bunch of good info.

That truck already has a nice set of General tires on it. Just watch the sidewalls. They like to blister on the inside bead for some reason. Bossman went through several tires because of that, but the tire shop was always cool about it and changed them out no problem. Other than that, they aren't that bad of tires.

actually it has some lame firestone street tread AT wanna be tire on it. one way or another i will be putting MT's on it in the next few weeks. just gotta figure out what size.

Originally posted by camo
actually it has some lame firestone street tread AT wanna be tire on it. one way or another i will be putting MT's on it in the next few weeks. just gotta figure out what size.


What was the TSL tire that was rated for towing? Was like a 10 ply tire. I can't remember, and since I'm going back to work at the trailer place, I need to study up on this chit. Some poser is gonna come in and hook to a 12K trailer with bais ply Swampers but just can't get rid of them without losing status at the mall!

Camo,

If you are going to be pulling a large gooseneck you don't want to lift it, PERIOD. You will have tailgate and bedside clearance problems with the front of the trailer and will get in a pinch one day and crush the top of the bed. The higher the truck goes the lower the back of the trailer goes so you can drag the rear of the trailer easier.

If you get the front leveling kit and load the trailer down the front of the truck will be pointing at the sky and that will get old real quick.

I have a 4x4 Cummins and pull heavyloads all day long and the tire that I have found that holds up the best is the 305/??/16 Goodyear AT/S I got 60k out of my set and they are a 33" tire. And they do pretty good in the slippery stuff...

Good luck with your decision, I feel you will be much happier dumping some cash into V8 to make it run rather than getting a taller stance...

HTH

Camo, I laugh! lift that thing and make it something you enjoy driving even when you are not towing. My Dodge had a slight problem but it stemed from the cam eccentric bolt loosening a bit and the cv came apart. Not from the lift itself! I have towed with it lifted and it makes absolutly no difference. It tows bitchin' lifted or stock. And it drives perfect and looks killer. I hated driving it stock (felt like a grandpa truck). You spent enough on the truck now spend a little more so you will also like the way it looks. I would just go with the 4 inch and 35s since a gooseneck is in your future. Ane yeah, Eric is killing me with his long-ass lowrider.
As far as squat with a gooseneck, airbags are cheap:D

ya i was thinking air bags were the ticket

Chit, scrap the back half. Lets see a flat bed exo on a F-350!:eek:

Originally posted by camo
ya i was thinking air bags were the ticket



Yes, yes they are.. now I need to get the in cab controls and compressor. Using a shraeder valve is :rainbow:

You shouldn't need air bags with a trailer that light on a F350. When you get up into trailers that are 40+ feet with true living quarters up front (real damned trailers that are all metal... none of that balsa wood frame with a tin sheet on the outside), the extreme weight will make the truck squat 6" in the back and have it riding on the overloads. Then you will need bags.:D

any one that says you can't tow with 35's should go to glamis any holiday weekend.:rolleyes: there are 5 of weekend warriors in our camp @38'. all trucks with a mild lift and 33-37" tires. the 4" with 35's would be my choice for all around performance.

HERE, HERE!!!

Leave it stock. With 5TH wheel and a lifted truck your back door is going to be almost vertical, not to mention the hinge might be sprung. MY 2CENTS