: homebrew traction bar


Dychen
03-05-2002, 10:43 PM
hey, anyone built a homebrewed traction bar:question: i've pretty much destroyed my rear springs and before i buy new ones i want to fix this whole axle wrap problem. i know there are several aftermarket ones out, they probably work great but i have more time then i do money :smokin: any design ideas, things to avoid, etc would be helpful.

fatkid
03-05-2002, 11:40 PM
There's not much too it, do you have some type of welder?

CSR
03-06-2002, 04:42 PM
Here a few pics of my traction bar....

http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-682773-Feb10_03.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-682777-Feb10_05.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-682781-Feb10_08.JPG

I had a traction bar that was welded solid to the axle tube... ripped a hole in it. :( The new one uses a axle pad welded to the axle plus u-bolts, with rubber bushings which should allow for a little 'give', and maybe save the housing.

More here......
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads//showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=offroadsuzuki&Number=682805

mud-magnet
03-06-2002, 04:54 PM
won't that limit flex..........how does it twist?????? just the rubbers??????

CSR
03-06-2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by mud-magnet
how does it twist??????

Twists good enough for me.....;)

http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-708939-Feb12_05.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/53-708946-Feb12_10s.JPG

mud-magnet
03-07-2002, 05:55 AM
o ic, it dosn't do too bad...........
nice zuki by the way
-Mike

ROCKILLER
03-07-2002, 02:50 PM
read the section of the page labeled tech dept. It shows a really nice way to build a traction bar.

tZUKnami
03-07-2002, 04:38 PM
Did I miss something or did you not say what page?

DemoMike
03-07-2002, 04:59 PM
Here's the link to the page Rockiller was referring to...


http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/suspension/Traction%20bar/index.html

tZUKnami
03-07-2002, 05:14 PM
Thanks, I feel dumb... :(

High5
03-07-2002, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by DemoMike
Here's the link to the page Rockiller was referring to...


http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/suspension/Traction%20bar/index.html

yeah too bad that style doesn't work with a springover!

flexlarson
03-07-2002, 11:04 PM
the traction bart that mounts to the top of the pinion does not work. FYI

Im gonna make one like the pics posted above.
Looks cheap and sturdy.
Ill use a heim joint all around though.

mud-magnet
03-08-2002, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by tZUKnami
Thanks, I feel dumb... :(

well your still a newbie, so you should.....j/k.....:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: .........

ROCKILLER
03-08-2002, 07:40 AM
why wont it work with a soa?

High5
03-08-2002, 06:35 PM
with just the single monting point above the axle it will actually act as a pivoting point for the axle to wrap. if it was spring under then the springs would work with the single bar to prevent wrap. anyway i tried it years ago and believe me it does not work! i tried lots of different setups and the ladder style bar with the shackle at the forward end works the best!

Rockrat
03-08-2002, 07:05 PM
I second that motion!! ladder setup the only way

CSR
03-08-2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Rockrat
I second that motion!!

Me too! I had a single bar mounted to the top center of my rear axle back a few years ago.... and ruined a set of springs.:p

willzook
03-09-2002, 03:49 AM
hi guys can you tell me is the angle of the shackle on the front of the traction bar critical , if so what angle is it ? thanks

High5
03-09-2002, 06:57 AM
the angle really doesn't matter but i prefer it to be about verticle at rest. also it works better if the bar end is above the shackle instead of the ladder bar end comming under the shackle and mount. with it abouve it is alway pulling on the mount with it under it is pushing and if ie is extended a ways it will allow more play than the bar with the shackle mounted below it. i have seen it both ways and i am not saying it won't work the other way but not as well. make youself alittl mock up and play with it and you'll see what i mean.

mud-magnet
03-09-2002, 07:40 AM
well i now need a traction bar........my rear springs are toast......so it'll be built like CSR's is............. of corse i'll have to get new springs first.........time for CJ's........
l8r:
-Mike

Dychen
03-09-2002, 11:40 AM
does anyone have pics of this ladder style. this thing with running hiem joints, will that cause more axle wrap. also, if i switch to the rro yj springkit down the road, will this still work. thanks for the help guys

willzook
03-10-2002, 10:24 PM
thanks high 5 I'll do that !