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Brandon
07-19-2005, 10:26 PM
anyone have one? I'm huntin for my first 220 welder, had to sell my 110 welder to do it so it would be nice to still be able to run in 110 mode

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7530767191&category=45032&rd=1

seems to be a step up from the MM175 but not quite the 210.

BumpyDodge
07-20-2005, 12:23 AM
Looks cool, but is it worth the extra ~$400 more than a new 175 for *slightly* better duty cycle/output and a little added portability? (you lose the infinite Voltage control too :( ) That's an awful expensive compromise.
You can almost pick up an another 110v for the price difference. If I could afford the DVI, I'd just ante up the extra ~$150 and get the 210. It may not be as handy to throw in your rig and take to a friend's place, but I don't think you'd be disappointed.

wizard_Drd
07-20-2005, 12:39 AM
I looked into it at hobartforums a few weeks back (i've seen your posts there Brandon). It weights about the same as the 210. From what I read, go with the Passport for the portability or the 210 was better deal for not much more money. I'm still bouncing between the HH180, MM175, MM210 myself for a new welder.

Brandon
07-20-2005, 12:48 AM
I looked into it at hobartforums a few weeks back (i've seen your posts there Brandon). It weights about the same as the 210.


It just looks to be in a different league than the 175, I wish I could try em all out..

$548 4 the HH180 is tough too beat..

PAToyota
07-20-2005, 05:53 AM
Based on what I've seen, the only real advantage of the DVI is if you need the option of using 110V at times. If that is the case, I've seen better things from the Passport. Of course, the Passport is more money and if you don't really need the 110V then spend the extra money on a MM210. I was looking at the DVI but then really started to think about it. I've got 220V in my shop and the only reason to use 110V would be to take it to someone else's shop. That just means that they are going to be asking to borrow it! :flipoff2:

wizard_Drd
07-20-2005, 03:33 PM
I've got 220V in my shop and the only reason to use 110V would be to take it to someone else's shop. That just means that they are going to be asking to borrow it! :flipoff2:

Agreed, and at 170 lbs and knowning my buddies. .it would be dropped. :mad3:

Brandon,
Not sure how much 1/8" you plan on doing, but this was on interesting post on the taps on the HH180. http://www.hobartwelders.com/mboard/showthread.php?p=90829#post90829

The price over at Barnes for the HH180 is hard to beat, but with tax it will be $591.50. You can get a MM175 to your door for $85 more from http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7531019975&category=45032&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

I have never tried the HH180, but the HH175 worked great and I don't know if I would like the infinite voltage control of the MM175. I just need to try both of them out.

I'd appreciate it if you let me know what you decide.

Brandon
07-20-2005, 03:43 PM
leanin toward the 210, gonna kill what's left of my rig budget and my rig is still just a body and a frame but oh well ;)

mountain4x4
07-20-2005, 03:45 PM
Infinite Voltage Control is good for thin stuff (bodywork) Sometimes you want to be somewhere in between the the 1st two taps on my machine. Now that I have a tig, I'll be using that for thin sheetmetal in some circumstances.

I know different people have different preferences, but I like the arc quality on my Lincoln 210 better than the Miller Machines.

Try 'em and see what you like best.

Brandon
07-20-2005, 03:55 PM
Try 'em and see what you like best.


I once went to a show where you could, I would love to get some hands on testing..

Welding shops aren't really setup for it though :(

AV8OR
07-22-2005, 12:31 AM
Brandon,

I thought you might be interested in this link from the Miller Motorsports forum titled Mig Tig and Roll Cages (http://www.millermotorsports.com/mboard/showthread.php?t=717). Post 7 is from ASKANDY who is the moderator. Click on the links to the photos when you get there and then move on down to post 11.

ASKANDY says the welds are done with "a MM210, MM251 and a Regency on a boom." If you want to bring the thread back up to the top and ask him which one was done with just the MM 210 he most likely will answer. If the MM 210 can do those kinds of welds I'm impressed.

See ya back over on the Hobart Board.

POPE
07-22-2005, 11:14 AM
keithflux here on the board just got one. I know, I sold it too him LOL! It's a nice little box, and the flexibility is real nice. It's nice for a *home* shop that may or may not have 220, or if you've got to travel somewhere and there isn't a 220 drop.

pmurf1
07-28-2005, 12:21 AM
210 will be my next machine. So sweet especially with dual guns/tanks. A buddy's wife bought him one for about $1200 shipped with an AL spool gun a couple years ago. I kick myself everytime I remind myself I told her about that deal without getting one for myself. DOH.

Brandon
07-28-2005, 12:58 AM
210 will be my next machine. So sweet especially with dual guns/tanks. A buddy's wife bought him one for about $1200 shipped with an AL spool gun a couple years ago. I kick myself everytime I remind myself I told her about that deal without getting one for myself. DOH.

he's not the only one, won't find it less than 1700 now :(

SquattyD
07-28-2005, 03:49 AM
i would get the 210, and then later take your time and get a good deal on a used hh135. i have the mm175, and its like the worst of both worlds. not as much power you want (like the 135) and the lack of portability (like the 210). granted, for only being able to afford one welder, it gets the job done.

PJohnson
07-28-2005, 12:50 PM
Not to start a MM vs. Lincoln hijack..............

I have a Lincoln Power Mig 215 which is comparable to the MM 210.

I am very happy with it.

Phil

Munchies
07-29-2005, 01:17 AM
Not to start a MM vs. Lincoln hijack..............

I have a Lincoln Power Mig 215 which is comparable to the MM 210.

I am very happy with it.

Phil

Just bought my very first welder! A HH180. Now I have 130 left for a mask and gas. What gas mix is good for general fab work and goofin around with steel. (ll i will be welding is steel)