When loading a Master-Pull Winch Line is it best to use the "hook to a car and drag it to you" method to get it good and tight? Reason I ask is a couple of weeks ago I spooled one on my winch and when I had to use it a 4-Dice under pretty good tension it kept slipping between the layers below and binding up. I e-mailed Master-Pull about it but never got a reply!!!!

Yep, wind it on under load. But don't pull a car to you, winch yourself uphill to an anchor, this lets you turn the wheel slightly back and forth so you load all parts of each wrap evenly with a direct pull. Then keep it under load - wedge the hook/shackle in the rollers with winch power to finish the wrap, and keep it taunt when you spool out to hook up.

I normally hook the jeep to my tow rig.. set the parking brake half way or so to create a drag. then pull the jeep toward teh truck. But then again, I use a cable winch line. No one could ever sell me otherwise.

i suppose winding under tension is proper but i always just use hand friction on my rope. yes it gets pinched and over ran but i swear to god the stuff is almost indstructable. i have tried my best to kill it and have failed after a year.

note: with the old steel rope i used to really take care of it and rewind after every use and be carfull not to cross it on the drum. with the new master pul stuff i just torture it and rarley (like 2 time in the last year ) reload the drum. and i probally use my winch a few times every weekend. ( usually to get myself out of some big ass hole i seem to of fallen upside down in) :D

Just wind it in... I use hand-tension and revel in the fact that i don't have to worry about wire rope 'meat hooks.'

My rope has proven to be indestructable... i have pinched it, folded it, and even jammed it into a broken fairlead. Just wind it in -- you won't screw it up. :D

Randii

Originally posted by twaldher
I normally hook the jeep to my tow rig.. set the parking brake half way or so to create a drag. then pull the jeep toward teh truck. But then again, I use a cable winch line. No one could ever sell me otherwise.

Jesus F Christ Travis...this thread is titled "Master-Pull Winch Line"...who gives a shit what you do with your cable??

http://www.keytech.com/~jtholman/threadpics/kidkill.jpg

664n668 :eek: :D :D Oh my god that is funny.

That just isn't right.

Originally posted by 664n668


Jesus F Christ Travis...this thread is titled "Master-Pull Winch Line"...who gives a shit what you do with your cable??



Hmm... if I remember right, the guy was asking how to preload a masterpull rope. So I told him how I preloaded my regular winch cable. WHY? so he can't fawkin come back to me and say it was my that for one reason or another the master pull rope got screwed up!

If you have a problem with that.. well :flipoff:

Originally posted by twaldher


Hmm... if I remember right, the guy was asking how to preload a masterpull rope. So I told him how I preloaded my regular winch cable. WHY? so he can't fawkin come back to me and say it was my that for one reason or another the master pull rope got screwed up!

If you have a problem with that.. well :flipoff:

and you playing with your little cable has what to do with preloading synth winch rope???

and I've already warned about the little 'flipoff' things...

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Can you say, "Idiot"? Not to mention, way off topic.

Originally posted by Nate C
"664n668
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: carnation wa
Member #5696
Posts: 77"

Can you say, "Idiot"? Not to mention, way off topic.


not if you know him and you know twaldher :flipoff2:

then its all good and makes perfect sence....

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite



not if you know him and you know twaldher :flipoff2:

then its all good and makes perfect sence....

No... in this case Nate is right... 664n668 is a perfect example of what is wrong with this board today.

Moderators.. if you read this.. please delete his post, and all others related to what went off topic on this guys thread. thanks.

OK you UHMWPE line users (Master-pull etc.), I got one question....

Have you all switched to a smooth hawse fairlead? I had heard there might be problems with the UHMWPE rope fetching up in the std roller fairleads? What's the word from the goats mouth? Randii, Camo ?

I'm pretty stoked because I have found a source for UHMWPE for about 60% of what the common suppliers charge (no - not spilling beans yet - might be a commercial oppertunity forme here)

BTW - there was an interesting article in one of this months Aus 4wd mags - where they mention the UHMWPE was originally designed to tether astronaughts to the shuttle during space walk..how cool is that?

Originally posted by twaldher


No... in this case Nate is right... 664n668 is a perfect example of what is wrong with this board today.

Moderators.. if you read this.. please delete his post, and all others related to what went off topic on this guys thread. thanks.

mmmk...since you brought it up, lets talk about 'off topic'...I'm expecting my Masterpull rope anytime now, and I'm thinking "hmmm...I wonder if you have to spool this different?"...so I go to the trusty pirate4x4 board and hey, there's a post from today about the exact same thing...how lucky is that???

so I open the thread and start reading...good stuff...good stuff...good stuff...then BAM! Travis coming in spewing about how he spools his wire, contributing absolutely nothing...don't ya think that if someone is replacing their wire with rope, they already have figured out how to handle the wire? ? ?...so unless you can contribute to the knowledge base specific to spooling winch rope then STFU!

dumbass :rolleyes:

Originally posted by BillaVista
OK you UHMWPE line users (Master-pull etc.), I got one question....

Have you all switched to a smooth hawse fairlead? I had heard there might be problems with the UHMWPE rope fetching up in the std roller fairleads? What's the word from the goats mouth? Randii, Camo ?

I'm pretty stoked because I have found a source for UHMWPE for about 60% of what the common suppliers charge (no - not spilling beans yet - might be a commercial oppertunity forme here)

BTW - there was an interesting article in one of this months Aus 4wd mags - where they mention the UHMWPE was originally designed to tether astronaughts to the shuttle during space walk..how cool is that?

I was wondering the same...All Pro (I think) sells an aluminum hawse just for rope, but it's damn expensive...will a normal hawse work?

The only problem with a standard hawse is that the edges are rough and this can contribute to the rope fraying on the outside. A standard hawse should do fine if you file down any sharp edges or nicks.

On the loading question, binding doesn't damage the rope like it does cable but it can still cause problems when winching in. OPP'S said he'd had trouble like this, and I think the problem would be solved by winding under load and keeping tension on it while the vehicle is in motion. Those who say you wrap yours loosely and don't have binding problems, you may not be winching loads as heavy as OPP'S.

I've seen people who do the wrapping correctly (both wire and rope) but then let the hook hang on the bumper with slack in the cable. Due to the vibrations from driving, this will foul up the wrap even on the inner layers. You can power in slightly at the end of the wrap to wedge the hook in the hawse and keep it under tension.

Two of our work trucks are now equipped with Master Pull lines. We use to pull another truck up a slight grade with the steel rope as body weight wasn't enough to keep it neat. Now we just use baody weight on the fiber rope. It's so limp and has so little stretch, this seems to work fine for us. Most of our un-sstucking procedures involve pullpals so we routinely pull all but 3-5 wraps off the drum for each pull. As a result, we tend to respool often.

Originally posted by 664n668


I was wondering the same...All Pro (I think) sells an aluminum hawse just for rope, but it's damn expensive...will a normal hawse work?
Dude, its only 55$, and well worth it I just got my rope and Alminum Fairlead put on. Plus that Alminum fairlead weighs like 5-6Lbs:eek: http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v5/3/23/5/32732305PesOWg_ph
HTH
Mike

Mike,

what's the dimension centre to centre between mounting holes of the alum. fairlead?

Wondering if'n it will work with an 8274

Bill

Originally posted by BillaVista
Mike,

what's the dimension centre to centre between mounting holes of the alum. fairlead?

Wondering if'n it will work with an 8274

Bill
10 inches, its the same size as my roller fairlead which fits all Warn winches so I think it should work just fine
HTH
Mike

I think the aluminum hawse is a pretty good idea... that said, after a few seasons of running my roller fairlead... my rope is still fine.

As noted in the article: http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/reviews/masterpull/tn_mp02.jpg I pulled a ham-handed move, busted a bolt in my fairlead, and forgot about it for a while....

Here's a picture of my bent-up roller fairlead. Look close to see where the wire rope tore up the metal, and a polished section in the middle of that roughness where the Master Pull Plasma rope polished it back flat.

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/reviews/masterpull/tn_mp02.jpg

Not that I recommend this strategy, but the rope is damn tough.

Randii

"mmmk...since you brought it up, lets talk about 'off topic'...I'm expecting my Masterpull rope anytime now, and I'm thinking "hmmm...I wonder if you have to spool this different?"...so I go to the trusty pirate4x4 board and hey, there's a post from today about the exact same thing...how lucky is that???

so I open the thread and start reading...good stuff...good stuff...good stuff...then BAM! Travis coming in spewing about how he spools his wire, contributing absolutely nothing...don't ya think that if someone is replacing their wire with rope, they already have figured out how to handle the wire? ? ?...so unless you can contribute to the knowledge base specific to spooling winch rope then STFU!

dumbass"


k...have a nice day!