Got another question about cams.
Is there a big differnce between the summit cam and lifter kits compared to the comp xtreme energy cams?? Is it worth the extra dough or just go with the summit cam and lifter kit? Any major power differnces?? If i was to go with the comp cam what would be a good lifter for them? Im using vortec heads so cam lift wont be above .480 inchs. I want a cam to perform from the say mabye 2000-5000 RPM range give or take a little with some low end tourqe.
Or maybe crane cam kit?? they have one that is 218 duartion and .450 lift power range is 2200 to 5200 and comes with lifters. would that be a better deal then a summit kit??
Once again its a mild performce build 350 to put in my 92 s10 truck with the NV3500 and NP231 T-case and i think its 3.42 gears
Thanks for the help sorry if its confusing

thats a crane energizer cam kit BTW

The Comp Cams xtreme energy cam is a dual pattern while the Summit cam is single. Meaning the summit cam has the same duration on intake and exhaust while the Xtreme has different intake and exhaust duration. My 383 has 274XE cam. Its 230 intake 236 exhaust @.050. They cost a little more but I would recomend a Xtreme or one of Lunati's Voo-Doo cams. Newer technology and dual pattern to help get the spent gasses out!! I would go with a cam with 214-218 intake and 220-224 exhaust. Look at Comp Cams XE262H or Lunati Voo Doo 262/268. Or you can go with a 4x4 cam.

well since im using the edelbrock intake and carb what about their cam kits 204/214 duartion and .420/.442 lift?
Are those any good?

After looking again some of the summit ones are dual pattern still any advantage to comp or crane cams??

go to:

www.enginekits.com

its powerhouse located in bakersfield CA (where I'm at)

they have one by elgin thats .443/.465 with a 280/290 adv duration. (214/224 @.050)I've run this cam and its a good torqey cam for a mild 350. I had it in a 67 elcamino and it ran like a raped ape for what it was.

its p/n E-922-P and its $42.95 and the lifters are $33.95

the cam is the exact same grind as a federal mogul cam # CS1013R which is .443/.465 and 214/224 @.050

Comp cams has spent tons of time and money on research and development to design cams to optimize the torque and horsepower outputs in the desired RPM ranges. Even though some of the Summit kits have close to the same duration and lift values, the separation angles and the actual lobe profiles are not the same. I've used Comp cams hydraulic and solid lift cams in several hot rods over the years and have excellent results. My 2 cents.

Brandon

Will i still get decent power with cranes single pattern cam??

the idea behind a single pattern cam vs a dual pattern is as follows. single patter cams are designed for engines with a high flow/ free flowing exhaust. a dual pattern cam has more exhaust duration which allows more exhaust to be expelled allowing the engine to pull in more fresh air on the intake stroke. if you're running stock exhaust manifolds with a low flowing exhaust side on your heads and a cheesy exhaust system I'd get the dual pattern cam.

I'f you've got an SB2 headed 358" nascar engine in it, I'd say go for the single..... seriously, you'll like the dual pattern better.

go to:

www.enginekits.com

its powerhouse located in bakersfield CA (where I'm at)

they have one by elgin thats .443/.465 with a 280/290 adv duration. (214/224 @.050)I've run this cam and its a good torqey cam for a mild 350. I had it in a 67 elcamino and it ran like a raped ape for what it was.

its p/n E-922-P and its $42.95 and the lifters are $33.95

the cam is the exact same grind as a federal mogul cam # CS1013R which is .443/.465 and 214/224 @.050
If I were going to use a flat tappet cam, I'd go with the one here that Buckshot33 recommends.
If you want to step up to a hyd roller, then go comp cams all the way... try to stay below 210@ .050 for a hyd roller and daily driver.
214 @ .050 for a flat tappet daily driver is awesome. lots-O-power and decent mileage also. You could put 1.6:1 rockers on this and gain some lift which would help the power output without to much sacrifice on mileage.

OK I think I might have found a good cam kit
Crane Cam power max cam kit with a dual pattern 212/218 duration at .446/.459 lift and comes with lifters for like $165 power range 2-5 grand whats the stock 350 cam duration and lift? would this cam give me a good power increase over stock

bought a summit cam(cheaper then edelbrock) :smokin: to match eledlbrock preformer intake. specs matched, it was a crane I saved I think about 30 bucks check out summitracing.com :)

ok im a dumbass. I found the comp cam xtreme cam kits for the same price on summit website so ill get that cam. Now that its a flat tappet do i need special push rods or anything like that?

I'd run the 12-235-2 if i were going to run a flat tappet, or the next size down with the price of gas. Check it out on this link:
http://www.compcams.com/Technical/CurrentCatalog/HTML/128-169.asp
Your pushrod length should be the same unless your running a retrofit hyd roller.

I'd run the 12-235-2 if i were going to run a flat tappet

I've got a 12-235 in the 355 in my Jeep and it's great. Fairly smooth idle, good vacuum, a lot of low end power, pulls good in the mid range and decent mileage.

Guys here is the difference in the Summit cams and a Crane or Comp grind. If you notice alot of the Crane or Comp grinds lists their lsa and Summit doesn't. this is because most of summit's grinds are on a 112 or 114 lsa where as most of Comp or Crane small street or mild performace grinds are on a 106 or 108 lsa at the most unlless other wise noted. Hope this helps.

Smashed I have a Crane Energiser in my 75 it spec's out at .454 lift and 216* at .050 its in a mostly stock engine ( intake carb and headers) I love it pulls from idle up. lots of torque and still good top endwith 33 and 4.10 it topped out at about 110. just a pinch of lope at idle, 16" of vac. at idle. With the way your engine is built I feel that you would be inpressed. I got mine for $99.00 with lifters.
good luck with you build

thanks for the input i think im going comp xtreme cam but i will keep that in mind.

BTW what do they consider a "mild" cam as in the specs