I was just curious whether you all had an opinion in regards to mog vs. mogified. I have noticed that many people are putting mogs axels under their rigs and wanted to know how these modified vehicles perform in compairison to a slightly modified mog. All opinions appreciated.

i can think of a few reasons;
1: People like to buils stuff on their own. And what axels are better than Mog?
2: Unimog parts are expensive, and they are not very easy to work on.
3: Mog´s are HEAVY!

a few reasons to keep the "whole" mog;
1: you can use it for more than offroading, and still outperform almost all else when you do. :flipoff2:
2: flex! :)
3: its a Benz!

(did i mention i have a Mog? :D )

1: you can use it for more than offroading, and still outperform almost all else when you do. :flipoff2:

Agreed - I can haul the equiv of two jeeps on the bed of my Mog and later in the day, out wheel about 95% of the s**t that comes my way (with or without the jeeps on the back :flipoff2: ).

Of course, the Mog is...

Big
heavy
Big
oh, did I mention, Big ??

It sounds like you are not sure of what you want, and thats perfectly fine. :)
My advice= buy a decent running 404, run and wheel it a bit and see what shortcomings you find in your expectations and terrain.
Then, if you decide you want a hybrid rig you can still wheel the stocker as you build one. If $ is tight, you could sell the stocker and probably not lose any money, and have some good (hopefully) experiences under your belt :)

Good luck

ahh so your telling me not only can i out do my straight axel companions but i could possibly haul thier busted ass rigs out as well.....hmmm that's something to ponder.

the previous owner of my 404 claimed that he´d never got stuck so bad that the winch could´nt help him out ... :D

the "type A" winch on my Mog pulls 7 metric tons on a single wire ... (as long as the wire can stand the force) :evil: :smokin:

(and it does all this, at less money than a regular Jeep with larger tires and the Volvo engine swap that is common over here would cost :barf: )

Of course, if you happen to have a rig that you want to swap in some strong axles you can't beat Mogs.
In my case, I owned my 4Runner outright and wanted to swap in a solid axle up front. But then I have wanted a Mog for years so the axles were a nice compromise.
Toyotas are good candidates because they are geared low from the factory at the axles rather than at the transfer case like a Rover. So with a Toy you can still have good highway speed and good crawlability.

I think we need more input from guys that have built their tube buggy's with mog axles. I think WEPS has had his running for a year or so now. Maybe he can tell us how he feels it performs? I have had my 404 Mog for about a year but have only used it around my property. I can tell you it will climb in and out of creekbanks, and pull logs unlike any other 4wheel drive I've had. I haven't furthered the build-up of it because I am also confused as to which I would prefer, the buggy or the mog. For trail running the Mog seems to be fine. For mud and sand and some higher speed trail running probably the buggy. I've put some real thought into the buggy setup and if you're a real good shopper for parts and are able to do fab work your probably looking at spending between $10K and $15K. This is with race runner shocks, a fuel injected 350, Dana 300, etc. The mog can be running down the trail for about $5k. The other thing with the mog is, you are stuck with the engine and transmission. How much longer will the parts be available and how much will they cost, and you just can't run down to the Autozone and pick something up if you need it. I don't know how many others have seen John Reynolds' buggy in one of the past Top Truck Challenge, but it really shows you what a buggy can do! Lots and lots to think about. I hope to read some additional input on this topic.
Steve

I have narrowed 404's in my buggy. It performed well in competition and does great on trails.

Have been on the Rubicon 3 times this season and it is freaking great. You can drive down trail and only think about the obsticals that actually require wheelin. The stupid little rocks that are 12" tall that you have to steer around are no longer an issue. Makes the trips much faster and smoother.