Does anybody here know where I can get a set of 20 inch beadlocks other then avalanche engineerings version?

You're wasting your time...

If ya talk to Rockstomper you can probably get some, but its gunna cost ya $$$$

screw you elf cruiser I am sick of your shit. :zzz: your :rainbow: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D

WMS will or about to work on some
Mike
wagoneer machine shop

trailready (http://www.trailready.com/bead_lock_wheels.htm)

Their website say they make some.

Craig

Originally posted by CrazyCraig
trailready (http://www.trailready.com/bead_lock_wheels.htm)

Their website say they make some.

Craig

They're the same as the avalanche:rolleyes:


Why dont you want to go with the avalanche??? Is it cause of the price??? I think their/trailready design is one of the best out there...JMHO:D

If I can not find any resonably priced 20 inch beadlocks then I will just make my own. I was just hoping that there was someone who could do it for less than 450 a corner which is a rediculous price!!!!:eek: I think that everyone should remember that this is just a little bit of fabrication. I could get a crate motor for the same price as I could get five of those avalanche wheels. I think that all these shops have gone a little insane with the prices and if they dont get resonable they are going to find that thier customers are going to become alot more proficient with fabrication and are not going to require their services anymore. They need to know that as rockcrawling evolves and gets bigger their volume will go up and their prices should be coming down!!! not going up!!! Some one will pay attention to this and lower their prices resulting in everyone else doing the same or going out of business!!!:nuke: :nuke:

Why would you need a beadlock for a 20" wheel anyway? When you get into tire sizes that big, you are looking at least a 10-ply tire. Unless your rig weighs 12,000 lbs, you don't need any air in the tires anyway. Just trot down to the local Ace Hardware and spend $5 for a box of 3/8" lag screws, screw 'em down and pitch the valve cores in the trash.

i was thinking the same thing:beer:

Give me a month or so and I will have some bead locks for 20 inch rims.. With tubless rims
Scott at rockstomper.com wants about 850.00 for bead ring kits :smokin:

Jeeper111:
I am sick of your sh*t.

Well, maybe you should stop eating from my toilet...

Originally posted by brutus
Give me a month or so and I will have some bead locks for 20 inch rims.. With tubless rims
Scott at rockstomper.com wants about 850.00 for bead ring kits :smokin:

yep - because you pretty much waste an entire sheet for one set of rings. Not sure how your going to do it for less money, and still have the strength & durability, but :beer: to ya if ya figure it out

ok jeeper111 you should shut up and get rid of your 4 popper and elfcruiser you need to loose those 32.5" boggers hanging off the dueces so yall can make sweet :rainbow: love again

Only users loose drugs


Now where did i leave that 3/8" socket?????


shutup john - your wussy 1ton crap sux...

riiiiiiiiiiiiiight! lee's going 4 ton where does it stop?

I don't know where does it stop john ohh yeeah at my truck becuse TJ's are the best!!!

If you are serious about having some beadlocks made I can have some lazer cut for you that you will then have to weld on yourself, like the rockstomper ones but I know they will be waaay less then 800+ dollars. Tell me the exact diameter of your wheel, and how many bolts you want in it, how wide of a ring you want and I'll give you a price for a set.

Originally posted by injectedEB
If ya talk to Rockstomper you can probably get some, but its gunna cost ya $$$$

Yup, they're spendy. I'd love to bring the price down some, but in order to do it, we end up cutting quality, so that's not worth it.

Problem is 20" wheels, really. We can get one-piece (same style as 15" wheels) ones, but they're custom made and nearly $300 each, then we add a beadlock to it, and we're up in the $500+ a corner range. We can get cheaper wheels, but they're not strong enough to hold up to that much tire weight (not that we've found so far, anyway). Daniel (USA6x6.com) has military wheels, but the beadlock design for those is more expensive than the regular one, to accomodate the wheel layout.

Originally posted by jeeper111
. They need to know that as rockcrawling evolves and gets bigger their volume will go up and their prices should be coming down!!! not going up!!! Some one will pay attention to this and lower their prices resulting in everyone else doing the same or going out of business!!!:nuke: :nuke:

are really that stupid or do you just like to act that way?

of course as a volume of a product goes up from becoming mainstream the prices go down. look around and you can find 15" steel wheel beadlock for 135 each. why? because a 15" rim is a common size that they sell alot of. just how many 20 beadlocks do you think they sell? i have never even seen one. just because our sport is popular does not mean every custom one off part is inexpensive.

Originally posted by jeeper111
I think that all these shops have gone a little insane with the prices and if they dont get resonable they are going to find that thier customers are going to become alot more proficient with fabrication and are not going to require their services anymore.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I know our prices are based on our costs. I'd love to see prices come down on some of the really cool high-end stuff; problem is, if shops that are currently making that expensive stuff, drop their prices to the point that they can sell a whole lot of stuff, they'll be bankrupt before the market catches up. Some stuff, like 20" wheels, are so limited a market, that the volume is unlikely to *ever* catch up. The set we've got in right now, was custom made, with 1/2" steel plate centers, from semi-truck shells and whatnot--I'd bet there's $100 in steel in each one, plus the day-plus of labor (each!) to put 'em together. If you can build the same thing for less cash, I'll be by to pick 'em up in a week. :)

Good example: I was looking at Wagoner Machine's website; they get something like $1000 or so, for a set of custom machined D60 wheel hubs, to make a five-lug front 60.
So, I figure, for a grand, I can do a lot of machine work... so I do my own... and find out that there's three days of work in that. On a machine that cost many thousand dollars. Machine shop rates (around here) are $50-75 an hour... three days, eight hours a day, that's 24 hours, at $50 an hour, that's about $1200. Good thing the machine was already paid for. Might be less time on a bigger/better/faster/more powerful machine, but those cost more to buy and run. I suppose I could do it in a day or so, on a $25-30k machine... but I can't pay for a machine that big, unless I do a truckload of wheel hubs. How big is that market, realistically? Certainly not enough to justify the $25k for just that kind of work.

Remember the old saying: "We do three kinds of work here: Good, Cheap, and Fast. Pick two." If you've gotta be the first guy on the block to have something good (and by virtue of it being first, it's gotta be fast), it won't be cheap.

That's also why I've had several people tell me that they want to be the second guy to get something new and cool... 'cause the first guy to get the newest coolest stuff, gets the brunt of the custom setup costs. Funny how that first guy, with our stuff, is usually me.

Originally posted by camo
of course as a volume of a product goes up from becoming mainstream the prices go down. look around and you can find 15" steel wheel beadlock for 135 each. why? because a 15" rim is a common size that they sell alot of. just how many 20 beadlocks do you think they sell? i have never even seen one. just because our sport is popular does not mean every custom one off part is inexpensive.

Remember when steel 15" beadlocks were $250-300 apiece? I'm not even that old, but I do. Now you can get complete steel beadlock wheels for under $100 each... just look in a circletrack magazine. The good ones are still more expensive, but if you shell out more than $200 for a beadlock wheel, you'll be getting really pretty, probably aluminum, high-end stuff.

The labor to make custom stuff is still a big factor too... if you're a wheel company, making a thousand of the exact same wheel, you can have a machine do it from start to finish. Make four of one wheel, and the machine setup takes longer and/or costs more than just paying a guy to do them by hand... but paying that guy to do a thousand by hand, is crazy. That's why custom wheels are more expensive, you're paying for some guy to go out to the warehouse, pull some pieces out of a box, fit everything up by hand, weld it up, all that.

If you're fly enough to be rollin' on dubz-you shouldn't be whining about the price. There is a reason people think that stuff is cool-its out of their price range. I'd be wheeling an Escalade on 20's if money wasn't an issue.:beer: :D