While stripping the F250 - I found that my new Husky impact wrench has no guts at all...

But I'm wondering if it's the tool or the supply of air.

It's supposed to develop 350 max and 200+ working, but it would comlpetely stall on bolts it took no more than 150 measured by hand to undo.

I am likely going to try and return it for refund, and by the IR big gun.

But I'm wondering, is their a way to test my air supply, just to see if it's delivering the required flow / pressure. The reg is cranked and shows 100+ psi, tool running. Hose is Rubber 3/8", 50 ft.

it's the gun. i have a campbell hausfield gun that does the same thing. but recently got a IR 2131 and it just laughs and tight and rusted bolts. well worth the money IMO.

- jack

Try a little oil in the gun before you give up on it. They need to be oiled to work properly. Other than that buy a proven one.

I am like morpheus...I used to use a cheap campell hausfeld gun and thought it was alright for what I used it for...well I gave in and bought the 2131 and man I cant believe the difference it makes...if those bolts arent going to come off itll break them bitches off:D:D:D...just as an FYI if you have a Lowes in your area they have the 2131 for $178...thats the best price I have seen on it anywhere:D

Yea, I oil it painstakingly...even spent some time talking to the tech line people, making sure I had the exact type of oil and procedure....and it's not rocket science.

Couple drops air tool oil and run it up a bit no-load. Can't see how even I could screw that up :p

I don't think we have Lowes in Canada - but I may find it at Sears or Ackland-Grainger

Thanks

Yea... 2131 Baby or Snap -on.... (prefer 2131)

Cory

Originally posted by BillaVista
Yea, I oil it painstakingly...even spent some time talking to the tech line people, making sure I had the exact type of oil and procedure....and it's not rocket science.

Couple drops air tool oil and run it up a bit no-load. Can't see how even I could screw that up :p

I don't think we have Lowes in Canada - but I may find it at Sears or Ackland-Grainger

Thanks

Yep I have seen it at sears but it was $199...oh well its only $21...which is still way worth it:D

Bill - Once you use a quality gun you will see they are worth the money. I went through the same thing with a Husky Impact gun. Wasn't worth $hit, took it to my brother in laws shop to try - his compressor puts out 20CFM at 140psi. and has 3/8" rubber lines off of 3/4" mains. It still sucked even running at 125 psi. Tried his Snap-On and Bluepoint stuff blew it away. Look in the buy/sell for used ones - both of the Snap-On and Bluepoints can be manufactuer rebuilt for not very much $$$ if you can find a used one.

Originally posted by BillaVista
While stripping the F250 - I found that my new Husky impact wrench has no guts at all...

But I'm wondering if it's the tool or the supply of air.

It's supposed to develop 350 max and 200+ working, but it would comlpetely stall on bolts it took no more than 150 measured by hand to undo.

I am likely going to try and return it for refund, and by the IR big gun.

But I'm wondering, is their a way to test my air supply, just to see if it's delivering the required flow / pressure. The reg is cranked and shows 100+ psi, tool running. Hose is Rubber 3/8", 50 ft. what size compressor do you have and how long is the hose you are using?I had the same problem trying too run a hundred foot of hose with my 2131.But I only have a 5.5hp/30gal. Craftsman compressor.Works great with a 50 hose though.

Rig up a T-fitting with a quality pressure gauge in it and then mount that T as close to the tool as possible. Give the tool hell on a nasty bolt and see what your pressure (at the tool) drops to. I can guarantee that the tool isn't seeing anywhere near 100psi at rated flow.

That 50' of 3/8" hose plus whatever is between that and the compressor, plus the regulator on the tank isn't helping at all ... it never does.

The reason why the IR is working better is because it probably has a much laregr piston diameter in it. Good for it. But you can often times make even the cheap ones work well if you just run a short length, large diameter feeder line right off a fitting on the tank.

FYI, quick disconnects are your worst enemy. Their orifices are EXREMELY small. They do come in handy, but they can also be the root of many evils.

cm "CFPPS" k

mines even wors bill, it won't even take off my lugs.........but sence i bought it seond hand i can't do anything about it..........
-Mike

IR-244
real metal not plastic
it is more like an explosive device then a wrench
eats snap ons and macs

Kind of off topic but....I got an IR Thunder Gun for Christmas. It Fawkin kills my Husky. Very fast and has an advertised 600lbs torque in reverse! It also sounds like an un-corked 2 stroke, kind of cool.:D :D

And don't forget that Sears sells a rebadged IR2131 for less than a 2131.. about 179... then along comes Craftsman Days, and there's another $18 off that price!

something is wrong wth the air supply or the gun, a defect I mean.

IO have I think the same Husky from HomeDepot, and its strong as shit, much better than the cheap ass CambHaus and other juk ones.

if it wont remove a bolt, Itll break it off if you arent careful, and Im really not known for taking painstaking care of my tools.

its warrenty time for you Id say.

make sure the button for direction is pressed all the way in :D

for some of teh cheepy impacts, turn the PSI up to around 150, it makes em work better, if not buy a Mac or a Snap-on, loads better

My compressor is a "Princess Auto Signature Series"

Supposed to be "light industrial, high volume"

It's a 208/230 Volt, 5 HP, 60 gal vertical single stage 3 cylinder cast iron pump rated at 18.5 cfm @ 100 psi and 16 cfm @ 140 psi. 140 psi max. weighs 300 lbs and cost $1000 Cdn.

Not sure if the "max" is a function of the switch settings and release valve...i.e can be tweaked to get 150-160 psi?

I may try a fat 1/2" T just after the filter, and run the impact on a dedicated 10' 3/8" unregulated (full pressure) line and see what happens.

MJ - The IR244 - I checked the specs in the Ir cat - not bad, considering it's $140 cheaper (340 for 2131, 199 for 244). You don't know if it's the one CT has
here (http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=140715&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=176397&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=183089&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=183109&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=183113&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=183113&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=166971&bmUID=1015882813261&WebLogicSession=PI0kN2BTmDlvQfchFYv8r6lOe2ahws3yC7 rHM3TAEfpa2Y5lQ5W2UlovJJ1mUsVpKmJ1E53NWE43|2661849 778081926980/172915542/5/7001/7001/7031/7031/-1)

Originally posted by welndmn
for some of teh cheepy impacts, turn the PSI up to around 150, it makes em work better, if not buy a Mac or a Snap-on, loads better

How many peoply do you know that buy two stage compressors and cheapy air tools? :D

Any body know a ball park price in USD for that IR 244? Not really in the market, I'm happy with my 2131, just curious.

Also, where is a good place to get an air wratchet (the big baseball bat style ones) rebuilt? I've got 2 that I picked up at a swapmeet that are really weak, I think ones a Snapon and maybe a Mac?

Pete

The IR 244 is $189 In the Northern tools catalog! This IS the stongest gun That I have ever used (1/2 Dirve). By the way the Mac Gun is the Same gun, just a different name.

bad link Billa and i am NOT surfin cantire site for anyone.:rainbow:
i got mine here (http://www.kmstools.com/main.php?scripts/products/cat.php?2@2). they claim $182usd $264cdn, of course $60 less then i paid

edit: select products list, ingersol

I am fairly confident the 244 is every bit if not more powerful then the plastic fantastic
my Cummins mechanic buddy says his eats every gun in the shop except the 3/4" ones. says it will remove N14 head bolts.
pretty much every brand is at that shop, mac, snap, etc
after borrowing his, I bought one
hate having an impact that doesnt put out

I dunno Bill - but I have found that a buddy's expensive IR gun sucks on my compressor, while my cheap Cambell Hausfeld gun will wrech circles around it...

I think it comes down to matching the gun up to the air supply....

What DRM said my cheap CH will get it of or break it.
course it could be the compressor BIG UGLY GREEN.
I think the problem is your "PRINCESS" compressor LOL, is that for Barbie Jeeps? :P j/k

http://www.rps4wd.com/kw/big%20green.jpg

So for giggles, I chopped down a hose to about 8'....sure enuff, the lil Husky spins the steering arm nut right off, and it's been on since '79!

Also, note to other morons like me....air lines full of tiny ice crystals do nothing to improve the performance of your tools!

So it looks as if the Husky will do until I can find a decent price on an IR244 (a little closer then BC :p )

And it seems I will have to keep a short hose in the warm...hmmmm, wonder if my wife minds a greasy air hose coiled up in the bedroom closet?

Kidwired....I'm keeping the barbie compressor...coz it's a tres cool gunmetal grey...not ugly green:flipoff2:

it's the one in the pic here:

http://www.princessauto.com/PAcountry.cfm?CTRY=CAN&INF=air&SEC=air

Great info from all...I just love when we have these chats! I also hate this climate...it's growing old, fast!

DRM you are aware that IR makes more then 1 impact gun?
the common 231 is a cheap POS same as a campbell or whatever
the big guns are in a different league

Originally posted by mj
DRM you are aware that IR makes more then 1 impact gun?
the common 231 is a cheap POS same as a campbell or whatever
the big guns are in a different league

I know there is a difference :p