There seems to be some problems in the binder forum that the other forums have had in the past. Do we need to adopt rules like the other guys to keep things on track here? Are we going to let DAN's make this fourm :rainbow:

I stole a few of the other guys rules:

1. If you are a spineless dweeb that thinks that our style is crass and unfair, or that we are a bunch of insensitive, insulting, cheap bastards that would laugh our asses off at your missfortunes as you went through the box on the 'con. You're right. Develop thick skin, and an ability to dish it out, or go away. Remember this is the dark side.



2.The concept of this tech board is to create a wealth of OTHERWISE DIFFICULT TO FIND technical information and technical experience and expertise relating to 4wd Binders. If what you are about to post doesn't further that specific cause, don't post it here.



3.just because you have a Binder does not mean you belong on pirate4x4.com



4. If you have a tech question, 99.9% of the time it has already been discussed here, so stop thinking that you are special, and original, and really use the search function, don't just start every stupid post with " I did a search".

Search, do it, learn it, live it!



5.Highest gear allowed is 4.09 , smallest tire is 33"



6. Don't whine about body damage!

7.Dont post pics of your lame ass stock binder , with chrome wheels on 31's. We see them on the road all day long!



8. sawzall, learn it, live it, love it.



9.This is college level Tech. Don't ask kindergarten level questions.



10. Welcome! Come in, sit down, shut up….stay a while. We are wheelin' fanatics. We like to wrench and wheel our Binders. We like to share too, but are a bit picky about it. Your silent ignorance of our world will be accepted. However, a showing of stupidity on your part will earn you a cold shoulder. Visit and absorb what goes on here, and when you feel comfortable, post up some of your own ideas….learn, but share. You'll come to like the camaraderie.

Yes Sir

#3, 5, 6, 7, and 8 My favorites !! Lets enforce it :D

does this mean closed knuckel D-44 arnt aloud :confused:

I guess that after reading the rule about no lame ass stock scouts on 31's and crome rims. I should take my toys and go home. Well sorry that isn't going to happen. I have been fixing and working on vehicles since before some of you figured out what stink finger meant. This is all practical knowledge to get through a days work. I came here to learn how to build a strong well running off road 4x4. It may be that scouts are new to me but wrenching is not. I posted my lame ass stock scout with the SOA because it is the start of a long build up, and I am damned proud of it. Even as it is now there are some things on it that came from here. I am the only person in this area that has an interest in something functional not a poser mall rig, so I have to get my information from a place that has what I need. If anyone has a problem with what I have to say they can PM me and let me know. I paid my dues to support a very informational site and will not dissapear because someone does not like what I have posted.

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot
does this mean closed knuckel D-44 arnt aloud :confused:

only when used for trot-line weights.



Northern boys: PM me if you don't know what a trot-line is.

Originally posted by HarleyM
I am the only person in this area that has an interest in something functional not a poser mall rig, so I have to get my information from a place that has what I need.

Wait just a minute.. are you claiming they have malls in Conrad?? :flipoff2: :D

Don't worry, I'm not taking my chrome wheeled 31" (Terra tires :D ) shod SII and going home either.. the point is, if you're looking to restore your Scout to showroom stock condition, you probably don't belong here. :D

I don't think PBB will have any Ted Ornas Award Winners..

If you ban me from Pirate4x4 I guess I'm really an outlaw then huh.

Only in Cali does that shit float

rules..... pirate

it that an oxymoron or just a moron.

wp

Originally posted by twodafloor
If you ban me from Pirate4x4 I guess I'm really an outlaw then huh.

Only in Cali does that shit float

rules..... pirate

it that an oxymoron or just a moron.

wp

Who said any thing about banning you??????????

I guess you missed the first one!:rolleyes:

Damn it You guys :) Did you forget rule #1 by the time you got done with 10? :flipoff2: Have a :beer: and chill!!

"1. If you are a spineless dweeb that thinks that our style is crass and unfair, or that we are a bunch of insensitive, insulting, cheap bastards that would laugh our asses off at your missfortunes as you went through the box on the 'con. You're right. Develop thick skin, and an ability to dish it out, or go away. Remember this is the dark side."it's been a

dishing it out is the easy part...having well founded tech is the hard part.


"2.The concept of this tech board is to create a wealth of OTHERWISE DIFFICULT TO FIND technical information and technical experience and expertise relating to 4wd Binders. If what you are about to post doesn't further that specific cause, don't post it here."

some times you need to wade knee deep in someones newbie mess to find the glimmer of brillance. people brand new to our sport sometimes bring original outside the box ideas

"3.just because you have a Binder does not mean you belong on pirate4x4.com"

see above


"4. If you have a tech question, 99.9% of the time it has already been discussed here, so stop thinking that you are special, and original, and really use the search function, don't just start every stupid post with " I did a search".

"Search, do it, learn it, live it! "

search ,do it. learn it, live it!.....this is as good as it gets...it should be automatic...written into the post code then after it shows you all the threads it should ask if you still want to post?

5.Highest gear allowed is 4.09 , smallest tire is 33"

well if you double your 3.73 gears with two transfer cases does that count as deeper then 4.09?


"6. Don't whine about body damage!"

cover little scrathes with big dents...the sratches go away

"7.Dont post pics of your lame ass stock binder , with chrome wheels on 31's. We see them on the road all day long!"


unless you have the sawzall modified pic at the ready


"8. sawzall, learn it, live it, love it."

when milwaukee tool built the first sawzall all the trucks in the parking lot got nervous...and for good reason


"9.This is college level Tech. Don't ask kindergarten level questions."

ever been to college?...nothing I'v seen yet would have done well grade wize where I went. how about saying we are trying to advance the art of building the go anywhere vehicles.do


"10. Welcome! Come in, sit down, shut up….stay a while. We are wheelin' fanatics. We like to wrench and wheel our Binders. We like to share too, but are a bit picky about it. Your silent ignorance of our world will be accepted. However, a showing of stupidity on your part will earn you a cold shoulder. Visit and absorb what goes on here, and when you feel comfortable, post up some of your own ideas….learn, but share. You'll come to like the camaraderie."


sometime acting/being stupid helps others see the light. having a pompous I know it all and your ideas are beneath me attitude is far worse then not knowing in my book.If all people want to do is build a "rock crawler" thats one thing but if you want to come wheeling with me on muddy clay covered granite and iron stone on tree lined trails that are every bit as steep as any anywhere .
lets talk.

the part of the 4 x 4 life that hooked me 20 some years ago was the fact when a guy built a shitty truck the trail was the one to tell him his set up sucked. the laughs of his buddies was just the icing on the cake.the dark side will be alot more helpfull with greater partisipation let people develope as wheelers and they will contribute and at some point one of them will come up with a great mod even someone as all knowing as you old scout will want to use.and

5.Highest gear allowed is 4.09, smallest tire is 33"



uhoh, I just read the rules and it seems that I am not in compliance................Got me some of them 3.55 gears, with a 2:1 transfer case, leaking 727 tranny, and a 345. Still rolling on 33"tsl's.

I go where the really built rigs go, and sometimes pull them out after they break shafts.

I don't recommend my setup however, too hard on brakes and tranny, but it *can* be done. Most people I wheel with can't believe how stock my junk still is, and they don't know it till I tell them. I like seeing their expressions when the bullshit session after a day of wheeling turns to gear talk, 4.88 this, 5.12 that, then I say, 3.55 and I hung with you all day.

But all that will soon end, because I do know that low is better, so that pair of 60's that I have laying around will be stuffed with 4.56 or 4.88 or 5.12 gears, I'll hang that old divorced 205 behind the 20 and roll it on 42's.

I'm gonna keep the old leaky 727, might fix a few leaks tho:flipoff2:

your lying, i know you will just pour more atf and trans x in it.

Originally posted by Hayraker
5.Highest gear allowed is 4.09, smallest tire is 33"


them. I like seeing their expressions when the bullshit session after a day of wheeling turns to gear talk, 4.88 this, 5.12 that, then I say, 3.55 and I hung with you all day.



Heh. Sounds like the trail ride last winter when I took my not-even-mostly-stock-just-stock Travelall (392/727/NP205/3.73 gears, chrome wheels, and 33s) wheelin'..

Some guests on the run kept asking what I had for Lockers (since my full size T'all was driving circles around their EB)..

"Lockers? No way! This is my open diff highway rig.. I left the real 4x4 at home.. it's too drafty for this weather."

There's just something about 8psi in the tires that makes 'em want to work.. :D - and even a heavy Travelall will float on the snow if you know how to drive it.. and you have an onboard compressor to fill the tires if you go too low.

Originally posted by gunracer1
your lying, i know you will just pour more atf and trans x in it.

It's leakin so bad now that I don't have any choice, I didn't say I would fix all the leaks, just some.

Anyway it only leaks from the front seal, shifter seal, pan, and rear seal, so I have plenty to choose from on which one to fix.

Especially #1. Don't care about the rest, but thin skinned individuals go home. I don't want to have to tip toe around this place. I'm not out to hurt anyone's feelings, I'm not out to make anyone mad. I'm not out to belittle or abuse anyone.

But, if someone asks a stupid question, or doesn't bother to search before talking, then they shouldn't get their feelings hurt if someone calls them on it.

It's not personal. It's Pirate. Sometimes it is too much work to consider all the different ways folks will take comments. Too much trouble. Just call it the way you see it.

I post stupid things on here, and folks hammer me for it. When I am on the trail, and I do something stupid, I get called for it also. If I showed up on a trail with a shlocky lift, or some other stupid setup, I would expect folks to tell me the way they feel. If I have the back to support what I have done, great. I can tell em, just like I tell em on here. But, I am not going to complain about folks being mean to me.

So, grow some skin and stick around. I don't care what your gears are, how much you do or don't know, or what tires you run. Just don't whine, don't complain, and don't get your feelings hurt.

I am nice, considerate, thoughtful, cautious and careful in my replies other places. Here, I just want to sit at the bar and throw peanuts.

the part of the 4 x 4 life that hooked me 20 some years ago was the fact when a guy built a shitty truck the trail was the one to tell him his set up sucked. the laughs of his buddies was just the icing on the cake.the dark side will be alot more helpfull with greater partisipation let people develope as wheelers and they will contribute and at some point one of them will come up with a great mod even someone as all knowing as you old scout will want to use.and [/B]

You wheel with smarter folks than many who are usually on the trails with me then. Too many folks up here believe it when the rags tell them they need to bolt on a shiny chrome trailer hitch and they will be good to go. Don't know how many rigs I have pulled out of holes, or had to lay in a mud puddle to fix, all the while the driver is saying how unlucky he is to break another D27 axle, too stupid to realize that his newbie rig is not what he thinks it is, and not smart enough to go out and build it right, because someone told him he was OK as is, and he believed them.

Take SOA for example. I kicked around SOA vs SUA for close to a year. Talked to both camps. Looked at what I saw on the trails. Drove my SUA around and looked to see what was getting me stuck and why. I discovered that the trails I run, at the level I run them, SOA is mandatory, if you don't want to be on the end of a leash all day. There are places where you don't get to choose a line. There is one line. If you are SUA, you are going to get stuck because your springs are going to snag on something, period. Doesn't matter how good the driver is, laws of physics prevail. You will get stuck. I didn't go SOA for lift, I went SOA to get my springs out of the way, and to get flex. Sure, my COG went up a little, that is unavoidable. Now, I am not getting stuck on the stumps, rocks and such. Newbie trail runs are fun, and every month we have one, but it sure is nice to go out with folks who have built rigs and know how to wheel, where you can push the trails a bit farther and have more fun.

So, the folks you wheel with might be smart enough to learn from the trail, but lots of folks around here are not, and they need to be educated. Better to educate them here on the the boards, than while I am laying in a mud puddle under their truck, fixing whatever broke because everyone was nice enough not to tell them they were stupid to take a rig out the way they were set up.

BTW, stupidity and incorrectly/poorly built rigs on the trail can cause more than inconvenience. Some of the stuff folks are bolting onto their rigs can kill you. If you wait to let the trail teach them, it could be a fatal lesson. We have had a couple bad roll overs up here recently, because folks were nice enough not to tell someone they were not ready for a trail.

Nice thing about this board is that if I have a stupid idea, I hear about it, before I find out on the trail that it is a stupid idea that is going to leave me on my lid. I'm going to make sure I understand why someone thinks it is a bad idea, and I am going to decide for myself if I agree or not, but at least I will get straightforward, honest opinions on it.

How was that for a rant???

I'd offer you a beer, but I don't drink.... And I love to argue, and this is the board for arguments and debate so I look forward to your response. :skull: :skull: :skull:

Hey, the way this board is going, we better come up with a sensitive flower award..... :D

Originally posted by Hooper

I discovered that the trails I run, at the level I run them, SOA is mandatory, if you don't want to be on the end of a leash all day. There are places where you don't get to choose a line. There is one line. If you are SUA, you are going to get stuck because your springs are going to snag on something, period. Doesn't matter how good the driver is, laws of physics prevail.

Hmm.. I dunno, Pat. Instead of SOA I just put bigger tires on.. :flipoff2:

Of course, I'm waiting for the day I get the SOA done, too.. it'll just be that much better. :-)

I gained about 2" of ground clearance with the new tires..

Probably about as much clearance as I lose by keeping the SUA for the time being. :D

Almost forgot. Can't remember if I asked you already. Is your SSII a conversion, or factory?

Don't think I have it in the registry yet, but I remember seeing the picture.

Do you ever get water splash into your snorkel. I don't mean wake, but a nice big splash? It is way up there, but I have had water splash over my windshield on occasion, so I am just curious.

Also, I remember reading a thread that running pressurized air into the carb causes problems (pressurized as in running down the freeway, snorkel forward forcing air into the carb) but it looks like it works for you.

There was talk about whether it would improve performance by forcing air into the system.

Anone want to weigh in on this?

Originally posted by Hooper

There was talk about whether it would improve performance by forcing air into the system.

Anone want to weigh in on this?

"whether" it would improve?

The improvement probably isn't much to write-home about, but... Cowl Induction Chevelles, "Shaker" hoods, "Ram Air".. that stuff ring a bell, Patty? :D

I think my Sig line says it all.


Rules, smules, we are all guilty of posting a question that violates the rules. And yes I'm still running 3.73's, but I didn't ask what it takes to swap the gears because I can search for that.

I say let the hazing of the DAN's continue, those that have the skin for it will stick around, those that don't :flipoff2: I say.

We're a fairly small group that manages to keep it self in check, Ben is always there to hand out an occasional smack down. Personally I think we are a little too easy on him and he does not have to work like the other mods. Maybe we need a daily pad post, something for him to delete everyday. :D

We'll never have the number of users that the Heep board does, but we have a fair number of lurkers, especially from other boards. The lurkers that have been around for a while that become members are the ones that stay. A member who comes out the first day on the board is the one that ain't going to be around in the end.

I still vote for a Topic of the Day; "table of contents" as a sticky. It'll help the DAN's get a feel for what has been covered.

Hoop, toss me a peanut

OLD SCOUT~

Was there any one particular thread that jolted you into posting this "RULES" thread? Or was it a build-up over time??

Anyway, I can hang, next time I take a "body work" pic of my rig, I'll just throw my 'unmounted-yet' 35" SSR's, in front of the 27's ;).

"sawzall, learn it, live it, love it. "


um I used a 4 1/2 grinder is that ok
:confused:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hooper
""[B]Almost forgot. Can't remember if I asked you already. Is your SSII a conversion, or factory?""

no its a fake..allthough the panels are real ones off a SSII that died that a friend gave me because he knew I use them with pride



"Do you ever get water splash into your snorkel. I don't mean wake, but a nice big splash? It is way up there, but I have had water splash over my windshield on occasion, so I am just curious."

yes I have , even wakes that hit the window and splash. the floor of the main plenum is dropped about 2" from the tube entrance. so in huge driving rain storms with it facing forward still no problem.it can hold alot of water with out passing it on.

I run a corragated tube from the fender to the air filter box to keep water progression down . with a smooth tube the filter would get damp. with the corrogated one it stays dry.

"Also, I remember reading a thread that running pressurized air into the carb causes problems (pressurized as in running down the freeway, snorkel forward forcing air into the carb) but it looks like it works for you.

There was talk about whether it would improve performance by forcing air into the system."

I can say it deffinetly gives a big gain on the highway. 2 tp 3 MPG at least. and at 70MPH pulling a 4000lb jeep to the trail. I think it has more to do with a cooler more dence air charge then" boost" as some say...I hate to say boost the sorkles only so big.

I can say I will put one on every wheeler I build from now on.

running down dusty roads you turn it around backwards(takes about 10 seconds) and your air cleaner stays clean way way way longer.

"Anone want to weigh in on this"

so theres my way

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
OLD SCOUT~

Was there any one particular thread that jolted you into posting this "RULES" thread? Or was it a build-up over time??


It's been building for a little while. When you were part of the Chevy camp and then came over to IH. Don't you think things have gone soft around the IH forum sence you you got here? The last three months have been :girly: I think things have gotten out of hand lately and using rules like the other forums use seems to work. It's simple you break the rules you get gang flamed! With out naming names, we have too many newbies with the wrong attitude and have no clue that there being :rainbow:.

There are plenty of other pages to post newbie crap on so just keep it off of here. Most of us visit the other pages as well so let's try to keep POR true to it's roots. POR was built for extreme wheeling & cutting edge/unusual mods. :vader: :vader:

CRAP POSTS MUST DIE!:mad3: :mad3: :mad3::

How about a top ten worst crap posts?

I vote for this one :flipoff2:



Problem is, there is a limited number of Binders, a limited number of us that post here. If we only talked about mods that have not been done before then what? We've managed to avoid Q's about original paint colors, factory alloy wheels, etc. The questions about SOA's are going to continue well into the future.

Originally posted by jdjanda
The questions about SOA's are going to continue well into the future.

Perhaps you would prefer to discuss the merits of SUA:rolleyes:

Originally posted by tsm1mt


"whether" it would improve?

The improvement probably isn't much to write-home about, but... Cowl Induction Chevelles, "Shaker" hoods, "Ram Air".. that stuff ring a bell, Patty? :D

Told you, I;m no guru on this. Be an interesting topic of conversation. Didn't think the IH carbs performed well when force fed air...

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
OLD SCOUT~

Was there any one particular thread that jolted you into posting this "RULES" thread? Or was it a build-up over time??

Anyway, I can hang, next time I take a "body work" pic of my rig, I'll just throw my 'unmounted-yet' 35" SSR's, in front of the 27's ;).

ROFL.

Umm, Tom, can I borrow your tires?

I think rule #1 is still the most important... :) If you can hang with higher gears, smaller tires, and still contribute, the more the merrier. As long as you are contributing to knowledge, not review of wheeling 101. :)

Originally posted by jdjanda
How about a top ten worst crap posts?

I vote for this one :flipoff2:



Problem is, there is a limited number of Binders, a limited number of us that post here. If we only talked about mods that have not been done before then what? We've managed to avoid Q's about original paint colors, factory alloy wheels, etc. The questions about SOA's are going to continue well into the future.

I prefer a lull in content to fluff, although I am not against constructive padding :D But, asking questions for the sake of having new material to read, one word JU, or is that two words?? :)

I bought a new cd / radio for my scout and I can not figure what inside the dash to mount the stupid thing to. Do I just use a mounting strap or what? Has anyone put a new unit in their dash, my old cb/am-fm/8 track was in my consol and my new unit wont read the cd in a vertcle position. Any help would be great!

Is this type of post OK....I pulled it from the BB...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by ihman
I bought a new cd / radio for my scout and I can not figure what inside the dash to mount the stupid thing to. Do I just use a mounting strap or what? Has anyone put a new unit in their dash, my old cb/am-fm/8 track was in my consol and my new unit wont read the cd in a vertcle position. Any help would be great!

Is this type of post OK....I pulled it from the BB...:flipoff2:

Whew. Finally a post I can relate too. Don't try to mount it in the dash. Too much work. Just put it on top of the tranny tunnel or on the floorboards, and run the wires up behind the heater unit. Put some plastic wrap around the outside of it to keep the dust out. Should work great. That plastic tape stuff works great for the connections, but if you don't have any, use lots of that clear scotch tape. it will work just as well.

BTW, the floorboards are a great place to keep your CD's. You can spread them out and see them better, but make sure you steer straight if you reach down to swap CD's. i don't have any trouble with that though. I installed a straight steer a couple years ago.

Man Pat!! I didn't know you can rant like that :D That was COOL :) I sence some pent-up BiBull hostility :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Shadow man
Man Pat!! I didn't know you can rant like that :D That was COOL :) I sence some pent-up BiBull hostility :flipoff2:

LOL. Nope. That would mean I was taking some part of this seriously enough for it to get under my skin. The BB has a place in this world. BB posts have a place, and the BB serves an important need. But, this is not the BB, and it should not be the BB. We don't need another BB. This is more like a sports bar where we can rant and rave, throw bottles and peanuts, carry on in whatever fashion we like, without having to worry about bent feelers and sensitive flower awards

oops. you got me going again. LOL

Naw, no hostility. Just calling it the way I see it. Like I always say, if you get upset by anything posted on the pirate board, then GO AWAY!!! :D

Otherwise welcome. If you post a stupid question, don't worry, someone will let you know. And who decides what is stupid and what is not, lets just say we are all judged by a jury of our peers on this forum, and there is no judge to call us to task!! :D

Well this newbie hasn't been flamed yet so I guess I will get my spanking now.

What is a DAN?

What does that gay flag looking symbol mean?

Will my Scout handle right if I move up to 235's from the stock H78x15s, and can I still use the stock hubcaps and rims with the oversize tires?

If I have 500 lbs torque and 3.54's and 5 to 1 in the Tcase can I still post here?

Originally posted by Old Scout


It's been building for a little while. When you were part of the Chevy camp and then came over to IH. Don't you think things have gone soft around the IH forum sence you you got here? The last three months have been :girly: I think things have gotten out of hand lately and using rules like the other forums use seems to work. It's simple you break the rules you get gang flamed! With out naming names, we have too many newbies with the wrong attitude and have no clue that there being :rainbow:.

There are plenty of other pages to post newbie crap on so just keep it off of here. Most of us visit the other pages as well so let's try to keep POR true to it's roots. POR was built for extreme wheeling & cutting edge/unusual mods. :vader: :vader:

CRAP POSTS MUST DIE!:mad3: :mad3: :mad3::

I don't disagree that there's been some gay shiat here, but I actually thought the Chevy camp was the worst, second only to Camp jeep. The only good tech I ever got from there was a Seriously good thread about doing a Disk brake swap on a FF-14 bolt. That's why for any Blazer Specific stuff I was over at Colorado K5 A lot. For serious Shiat i was always here on GEN4x4 board.

However the IH Board here has been very valuable to me, and I find myself here more than on the GEN 4x4 board.

I think the rules are cool, it gives us a reference to use instead of just a "HEY, YOU'RE NEW, YOU MUST BE GAY, AND NOW YOU SHALL BE FLAMED" method commoly used. Now anybody can be flamed for posting or doing Gay shiat. I know I have it coming, since I'm sure I'll need to post another pic of my 27" tire clad pansy mobile. ;) But like I said ealier I have the 35' to "prop-up":flipoff2:

Hey It won't ALL stop, hence rule #1, ALIGATOR SKIN and a BIG ASS "DISHING IT OUT" SPOON!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Hooper


Whew. Finally a post I can relate too. Don't try to mount it in the dash. Too much work. Just put it on top of the tranny tunnel or on the floorboards, and run the wires up behind the heater unit. Put some plastic wrap around the outside of it to keep the dust out.

Plastic wrap.. I knew I forgot something.

First stereo in "Tigger" was DUCT TAPED to the transmission tunnel.

Worked great.

Then some thief came in the middle of the night and stole my mud-covered CD-scratching Optimus brand (and about 6 yrs old) CD player that was duct-taped to the tunnel and covered in mud.

No big loss there.

What DID piss me off is he took ONE of my Pioneer speakers on the back seat, AND the BRAND NEW AC/DC CD in the player. :flipoff: :mad3:

Also, Pat, you might consider a rollcage for the CDs on the floor - tossing your Hi-Lift back inside isn't very good to 'em. That, and sometimes the back seat passengers are not all that considerate about not stepping on them..

I upgraded to a Sony in-dash AM/FM/Cass head-unit and a 10-disc changer I installed between the rear seat and quarter panel.

It's not just the am/fm/cass since after 4 years of abuse the changer finally quit.

Since I don't drive Tigger as often any more, no big loss.

I'm thinking of an AM/FM/MP3 headunit for the crewcab.

What I'd like to find is a "solid state" MP3 player for the Scout.. something that takes CompactFlash or similar.

NO SKIPS. :D

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Plastic wrap.. I knew I forgot something.

First stereo in "Tigger" was DUCT TAPED to the transmission tunnel.

Worked great.

Then some thief came in the middle of the night and stole my mud-covered CD-scratching Optimus brand (and about 6 yrs old) CD player that was duct-taped to the tunnel and covered in mud.

No big loss there.

What DID piss me off is he took ONE of my Pioneer speakers on the back seat, AND the BRAND NEW AC/DC CD in the player. :flipoff: :mad3:

Also, Pat, you might consider a rollcage for the CDs on the floor - tossing your Hi-Lift back inside isn't very good to 'em. That, and sometimes the back seat passengers are not all that considerate about not stepping on them..

I upgraded to a Sony in-dash AM/FM/Cass head-unit and a 10-disc changer I installed between the rear seat and quarter panel.

It's not just the am/fm/cass since after 4 years of abuse the changer finally quit.

Since I don't drive Tigger as often any more, no big loss.

I'm thinking of an AM/FM/MP3 headunit for the crewcab.

What I'd like to find is a "solid state" MP3 player for the Scout.. something that takes CompactFlash or similar.

NO SKIPS. :D

I kind of like the skips.

*Country road, take me ho ho ho ho home, t t t t to the place, I I I I I I I be be be be belong, west virginia, mountain mamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamama mamamamam

Originally posted by Old Scout
5.Highest gear allowed is 4.09 , smallest tire is 33" [/B]:emb: I run 3.31 and 38.5"s. :emb:

But only untill I can get my hands on a D300 or afford some lower gears. I don't do rock crawling due to lack of rocks, and with one foot on each pedal (got a TF727) I can do most of the rest.

On the other hand, I don't do much posting here. Mostly reading.
When I think about it, this is probbaly on of those :rainbow: pad posts, sorry...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Patrik
:emb: I run 3.31 and 38.5"s. :emb:



.
When I think about it, this is probbaly on of those :rainbow: pad posts, sorry...:rolleyes:

3.31 and 38.5" :eek: :laughing:

Like I really need to pad:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Old Scout
3.31 and 38.5" :eek: :laughing: Yupp, as I wrote, most of the time I need to have one foot on the gass pedal to get the revs, and the other on the brake pedal to slow it down. It works, but it's far from ideal...

BTW, the 38.5"s are worn monster mudders, so I guess they're more like 37"s...

Originally posted by Patrik
Yupp, as I wrote, most of the time I need to have one foot on the gass pedal to get the revs, and the other on the brake pedal to slow it down. It works, but it's far from ideal...

BTW, the 38.5"s are worn monster mudders, so I guess they're more like 37"s...

Wow. And I have been hesitant to put 35's in with my 3.54's fearing it would eat my auto.....

Originally posted by Hooper


Wow. And I have been hesitant to put 35's in with my 3.54's fearing it would eat my auto.....

You should be good enough at building autos by now you could just swap 'em out every other run, Pat!!

Originally posted by tsm1mt


You should be good enough at building autos by now you could just swap 'em out every other run, Pat!!

Costs too much for all the atf. :)

Originally posted by Hayraker


only when used for trot-line weights.



Northern boys: PM me if you don't know what a trot-line is.


I'm born 'n raised Az kiddy and know what it is :D cant catch much on one here cerpt snakes and they have to be LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Plastic wrap.. I knew I forgot something.

First stereo in "Tigger" was DUCT TAPED to the transmission tunnel.

Worked great.

Then some thief came in the middle of the night and stole my mud-covered CD-scratching Optimus brand (and about 6 yrs old) CD player that was duct-taped to the tunnel and covered in mud.

No big loss there.

What DID piss me off is he took ONE of my Pioneer speakers on the back seat, AND the BRAND NEW AC/DC CD in the player. :flipoff: :mad3:

Also, Pat, you might consider a rollcage for the CDs on the floor - tossing your Hi-Lift back inside isn't very good to 'em. That, and sometimes the back seat passengers are not all that considerate about not stepping on them..

I upgraded to a Sony in-dash AM/FM/Cass head-unit and a 10-disc changer I installed between the rear seat and quarter panel.

It's not just the am/fm/cass since after 4 years of abuse the changer finally quit.

Since I don't drive Tigger as often any more, no big loss.

I'm thinking of an AM/FM/MP3 headunit for the crewcab.

What I'd like to find is a "solid state" MP3 player for the Scout.. something that takes CompactFlash or similar.

NO SKIPS. :D


Do Like I did get a portable one and the tape deck adapter and the dc adapter. My g/f's sister has a 20gig one :eek: The only thing holding it back is battery life in a stand alone unit (that and its not nearly loud enough 100db "safe sound limits") (time for powered phones :D) ANYway you can take it out and with you or lock it up and few people steal tape players... JMHO

How about 33's 3.73's?? Well the rear is welded and its my dd for now. Agreed there are other places to learn how to shift and stupid sh*t like that but everyone had to start somewhere. OTOH there is TONS of newbie stuff if you search. There really isnt much to learn other than techniques that make it all easier. If you can cut weld grind and bend you are half way there. The rest is all $$$ and time (the two hardest to acquire at the same time). I will admit there is WAYYY too much blasting of ideas here. Some newbies (in the jeep section) have come up with so-so ideas that just might work but get shot down by some web-wheelers and lose all confidence. Some of it I thought was a good idea and ended up p/m'ing them and telling em it was a good idea and let me know how it turns out... Anyway my point is ease up and be a little more tolerant and patient. (If I read more I could probably come up with some killer "work as a team and succeed work as individuals and fail" quote or something??? :confused: )

Do we need a HARDCORE rating next to a post??? Paleeeeez people its gone too far agreed the "Whats a lug pattern and do I have one?" questions get old you should be able to spot em and move on... unless you have an inferiority thing (small penis maybe) or the classic bogger complex why rag on someone while you could just ignore them and they'll go away soon enough. :shrug: the testosterone levels have sky rocketed and its a little elitest to say who can and cant post we are basically saying these people have been dubbed worthy to post on POR in the IH section let the dick sucking sessions commence. I am gonna get nailed to the cross on this post but damn people ya'll are a bunch of damn whiners!

Do we need a HARDCORE rating next to a post??? Paleeeeez people its gone too far agreed the "Whats a lug pattern and do I have one?" questions get old you should be able to spot em and move on... unless you have an inferiority thing (small penis maybe) or the classic bogger complex why rag on someone while you could just ignore them and they'll go away soon enough. :shrug: the testosterone levels have sky rocketed and its a little elitest to say who can and cant post we are basically saying these people have been dubbed worthy to post on POR in the IH section let the dick sucking sessions commence. I am gonna get nailed to the cross on this post but damn people ya'll are a bunch of damn whiners! [/B]

How about back to the way PBB used to be.

Rule #1. No rules.

No rules. You can post anything you want. No one will block you, no one will delete your posts (except for things like porn, illegal posts, etc) Stupid or intelligent, simple or complex. Post anything you (non specific) want. No one will stop you.

At the same time, there is no rule that says folks CANNOT razz, tease, poke fun at, etc anyone, or any post. No rules.

And, if anyone tells anyone what they can or cannot say, it is back to rule 1. The only exception being the moderator who can axe, block, nix, delete anyone, or any post he likes with or without cause.

There is no reason to regulate attitude in this forum. There is no reason to regulate niceness, or meanness in this forum. Let folks be whomever, however, whatever they want, here. No rules. If folks want to be nice, great. If they want to be a jerk, great. If they want to be the nicest, gentlest, most helpful person on the net, great. No rules. Come as you are. Welcome everyone. Be yourself. Be uninhibited. If you don't like it, leave, complain, whatever. No rules.

Heck, if Snoop can put up with the abuse he gets in this forum, and if I can put up with the abuse I get for all my stupid ideas, and then there is Tom.... never mind about Tom ;) anyone can come, participate, and learn.

It's like wheeling. I don't try to tell folks how to talk when I wheel with them. If they profane, or slander, or complain or whine, or whatever, it is up to them. If they abuse me on the trail, I won't wheel with them again, but I won't try to tell them how they should act around me. If I don't like someone, I won't associate with them. I think the same applies to the net. We all find someplace, or someplaces that are comfortable, that fit us. And, one day me might want to visit one forum, and another visit another forum. That is the beauty of the net. It is a world with a thousand homes. Something for everyone, and everyplace can be different. No reason to make every forum the same.

My problem is that I like most of the forums. Fortunately, I have found I can be myself in most of the forums because of who I am. But not everyone fits in every forum.

If folks don't like it here, they can either stand up for themselves or leave, or someone can stand up for them, or not. We can have flame wars, infighting, peaceful coexistence. But, it will be without rules. If the whole forum turns into a giant shouting match, so be it. But, why regulate this forum? There are plenty of well regulated IH forums out there, and they are great forums and do a great job. There is no need to bring those rules to this forum.

I guess it gets my back up because I am tired of people meddling in others' affairs, especially the government and other legislative bodies. I do not see any reason for any more regulation, legislation, restriction, or oversight. Let each man live according to the dictates of his own conscience. I am not here to sit in judgement over you (non specific), nor do I like you sitting in judgement over me. I won't tell you what to do or say, and you offer me the same privilege.

I am not one to abuse, or profane someone for posting an obvious question in this forum. I am more likely to ignore such a post in this forum. But, I am a relative newcomer to this forum. This forum and its *rules* or lack of, were here before I came along, and if I am in someone elses house, I don't make the rules. If they want to be mean to one another, be it in a good natured way, or a mean spirited way, I can ignore their behavior and hang out anyway, I can participate, or I can leave. What I cannot do is tell them to get their feet off their own table, wipe thier own chin, or watch their language. It's not my house.

That being said, in this forum, folks are welcome to propose changes in behavior, attitude, etc. Again, no rules, but whether folks choose of their own will to adopt those proposals or suggestions remains to be seen. I doubt most folks will. Most folks on here are a good lot, and a lot gets done, a lot of help offered, a lot of issues worked out. But, it is all done in a come as you are manner. There is not a lot of mean spiritedness here. But, there is a lot of good natured razzing and hazing, buddy style. It's not church.

There. Enough of a novel for one day. This is the Pirate Board. It works. It might not work for everyone, but it works.

Now, I am going to go back to my Thomas Kemper root beer, get a new bowl of peanuts to throw, and get back to watching the game on the TV in the corner.

Let the games begin.

BTW, watched coyote ugly again yesterday. I don't drink, but I'd sure like to know why there were no bars like that in my area when I was young!!!!! :D Hey Snoop, wanna go bar hopping with me? I'm sure your wife wouldn't mind any more than mine would..... :D

http://video.go.com/coyoteugly/multimedia/calender/1024x768/december.jpg

Im with Hoop:flipoff2:

Originally posted by cornfedred
Im with Hoop:flipoff2:

Me too, Hoop! I'll go bar-hopping with you at a "Coyote Ugly" type bar... :D

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Me too, Hoop! I'll go bar-hopping with you at a "Coyote Ugly" type bar... :D

I knew this crowd would be up for it, being the uncouth, uncivilized, unruly, irreverent bunch of neandrathals that you all are!!! :D

Now, we just need to find one.......

I agree With Hooper (that hurt ;) ) Can we vote on it. Nevermind, OLD SCOUT would just ban anyone who voted agains him....:p

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
I agree With Hooper (that hurt ;) ) Can we vote on it. Nevermind, OLD SCOUT would just ban anyone who voted agains him....:p

Ooooh. That musta hurt :)

So, we are all agreed. Meet at Coyote Ugly at 7:30 on Wed? :D

Or were you agreeing with that *other* thing? :)