Finished 2 AK's today [Archive] - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

usmcdoc14

08-28-2005, 05:37 PM

the top one already has been sold :D That one has US made polymer stock,and a Tapco forend. nothing special done to it. its built of an UNFIRED romanian AK built in 1982. The scope rail has been welded on as i have had bad luck with the riveted ones eventually loosening up.

bottom one is MINE :laughing: 74 style muzzle break, 74 forend, custom built (by me) fully adjustable rear tritium peep sight. The rear stock is just painted wood untill i get my new rear trunnion built and can put a ACE SOCOM stock on it.

Both are finished in Rustolium textured enamel baked on at 400* for an hour.

nathan_454

08-28-2005, 05:44 PM

both absolutely beautifull work as usual. I am going to start building my first AK here in a couple weeks and I can't wait. I've been folowing all of your AK posts thus far... keep up the good work.

LOKNLOD

08-28-2005, 05:47 PM

Lookin' great Doc.

Is the one you're keeping at 5.45?

YellowSub1962

08-28-2005, 05:52 PM

You'd better put Aprilrazz's bathrobe back before she see's those pics...

or is that your robe? :laughing:

:usa:

usmcdoc14

08-28-2005, 06:02 PM

Lookin' great Doc.

Is the one you're keeping at 5.45?

they are both 7.62 :flipoff2: I Just like the muzzle break :D

Ok i was asked the price to build one of these fuckers:

AK parts kit in your flavor: $100 to way too fuckin much, these are AK 47's from Romania (chome lined barrel) $100 shipped

ak receiver: $50 from here http://207.176.137.9/shop/index.asp

screw set: with drils and taps $20 (cant beat that) http://fng.mystarband.net/screwkit/ScrewKit.html

Fire control group can be got from assortment of places: $40 (US parts count)

stocks and shit are all options
the AK receiver place sells built AKs for an INSAINLY LOW price :eek: for those that cant build. But if you have built a 4x4 you can build a fuckin AK :laughing:

the top one cost $200 to build, sold for $425 :evil: and he got a good deal.

bottom one cost maybe $250 as it is.

for refrence of worth this one is $500 without a scope rail and built on a shitty reciever LINK (http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=182)

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/admin/images/content/rfg47.jpg

usmcdoc14

08-28-2005, 06:03 PM

You'd better put Aprilrazz's bathrobe back before she see's those pics...

or is that your robe? :laughing:

:usa:

its hers :laughing:

animator

08-28-2005, 06:11 PM

Jason R

08-28-2005, 06:16 PM

Do you build any NFA or full auto AKs? :D

badkarma88

08-28-2005, 06:17 PM

Thats bitchin Doc. Question for you about the reciever site, it says an FFL is required for every AK they sell, do you have one because of your military backround, or can anybody get one?

animator

08-28-2005, 06:22 PM

Thats bitchin Doc. Question for you about the reciever site, it says an FFL is required for every AK they sell, do you have one because of your military backround, or can anybody get one?

FFL's are not as easy to get now as they have been in the past, but it is possible to get one.

But ost people just go through an FFL dealer that's local to them. Basically the firearm company will ship the reciever to the FFL holder, who will then do the transfer to the buyer.

usmcdoc14

08-28-2005, 06:23 PM

How did you weld the scope rail to your reciever? Right now mine's held on with screws, which come loose, even after using red locktite, and I've been thinking about welding it up.

What are you using, mig or tig? What wire and settings if mig?
ps. when ya gonna make a 74?? :D you know you want one... and 5.45x39 fawkin rocks, even though the ammo is a bit more expensive...

drilled threw the rail along the center and plug weld there and them small stitches along the side (1/2 in stitch,allow to FULLY cool between welds)
Using a MIG set on low with the slowest speed,let the puddle start on the reciever and then draw the edge of the rail into it.

It aint fuckin moving now :laughing:

I will make a 74 when the damm parts kits prices get un-stupid :shaking:

Jason: not till i get my tax stamp :evil:

badkarma: no i have the reciever shipped to a FFL holder. now IMPORTANT NOTE !!!!!! if you want to build an AK pistol have the reciever signed as A PISTOL NOT A RIFLE. if ya want a rifle dont care.
a pistol can be a rifle but a rifle can NEVER EVER BECOME A PISTOL

badkarma88

08-28-2005, 07:05 PM

I see, so I'd probably have to throw the local firearms pawn broker or gunshop some $$ to have one of these shipped to them.

v-twintech

08-28-2005, 07:06 PM

Have you given any thought to a Krinkov SBR?

Bill4rest

08-28-2005, 07:29 PM

I see, so I'd probably have to throw the local firearms pawn broker or gunshop some $$ to have one of these shipped to them.

Not in CA :rolleyes:

animator

08-28-2005, 07:38 PM

I see, so I'd probably have to throw the local firearms pawn broker or gunshop some $$ to have one of these shipped to them.

Most have a transfer fee. Usually around 20 bucks or so, some charge more for pistols than rifles, just all depends on the dealer. Place I go through charges $15 per transfer regardless of the gun.

usmcdoc14

08-28-2005, 08:37 PM

make friends with someone with an FFL :D

badkarma88

08-28-2005, 09:52 PM

Doc, I wanna know why you didn't get THIS ONE http://207.176.137.9/picpost/AKrifle/EnforcerRifleS.jpg

Holy shit that is cool.

rockcrawler304

08-28-2005, 10:26 PM

Is that robe to cover the dirty carpet?!?!

Just kidding. I was just reading you other post. Sweet looking guns. I am more of a handgun person but dayum...those would be nice to have.

dumplin

08-28-2005, 11:15 PM

Hey doc a little off - topic but is there a posssible way to put a better stock on a Norinco mak- 90 ? I've seen the Dragunov type but just something more standard . thanks

flecker

08-29-2005, 12:18 AM

Hey doc a little off - topic but is there a posssible way to put a better stock on a Norinco mak- 90 ? I've seen the Dragunov type but just something more standard . thanks

Depends on the reciever on your mak... is it rounded or square?

usmcdoc14

08-29-2005, 05:29 AM

Doc, I wanna know why you didn't get THIS ONE http://207.176.137.9/picpost/AKrifle/EnforcerRifleS.jpg

Holy shit that is cool.

dude that thing has so much useless crap on it that its not funny :eek: :barf:

The folding stock is ALL PLASTIC (buttstroke=SNAP!)

that whole tri-rail picatinny thing on the rear is useless (AK dust covers are not a tolerance part, every time you fire or even breath the scope would be out of zero)

the gas tube rail is "OK" but it blocks the iron sights.

the muzzle break on that thing is built for a tank :laughing:

the only thing nice on it is the lower forend if you like verticle grips.

:flipoff2:

dumplin : what does the bottom rear edge of your reciever look like?

NastyNate

08-29-2005, 08:11 AM

Doc, do you have to harden the slide area of the reciever? My local shop had about 20 stamped recievers that weren't bent up yet, and a note saying they needed to be hardened when complete.

usmcdoc14

08-29-2005, 08:17 AM

Doc, do you have to harden the slide area of the reciever? My local shop had about 20 stamped recievers that weren't bent up yet, and a note saying they needed to be hardened when complete.

mine are hardened from the factory (maker) you can temper them yourself well enuff to have no problems or you can send them to an annealing place for cheap

NEWMANS OWN

08-29-2005, 08:33 AM

I tend to like my SKS. You built these nicely great work.

KDIO

08-29-2005, 09:01 AM

THEY LOOK GOOD DOC. :grinpimp:

basketcasejeep

12-02-2005, 11:04 PM

badkarma: no i have the reciever shipped to a FFL holder. now IMPORTANT NOTE !!!!!! if you want to build an AK pistol have the reciever signed as A PISTOL NOT A RIFLE. if ya want a rifle dont care.
a pistol can be a rifle but a rifle can NEVER EVER BECOME A PISTOL

Bringing this back to the top to get a clarification.(I've been spending the entire evening reading your AK posts, Doc, my wife is gonna not like you pretty soon...:laughing: )

What is the point in registering an AK receiver as a pistol? Are you then able to completely remove the stock, only using the pistol grip, legally? If I used an 80% kit and welded my own, it wouldn't require registration, right? And there would be no point in worrying about whether its registered as a pistol or rifle? Sorry, I'm a little dumb to all this :evil: black kommie gun stuff. :emb:

Foolish

12-02-2005, 11:08 PM

So let's say I get my hands on an AK in CA and I go to the range with it? They watch for that don't they...:(

usmcdoc14

12-03-2005, 06:57 AM

Bringing this back to the top to get a clarification.(I've been spending the entire evening reading your AK posts, Doc, my wife is gonna not like you pretty soon...:laughing: )

What is the point in registering an AK receiver as a pistol? Are you then able to completely remove the stock, only using the pistol grip, legally? If I used an 80% kit and welded my own, it wouldn't require registration, right? And there would be no point in worrying about whether its registered as a pistol or rifle? Sorry, I'm a little dumb to all this :evil: black kommie gun stuff. :emb:

Tell you wife i also know how to knit, bake, cook, sew...basically any hobbies she might have i can give some input on :flipoff2:

ok quick an dirty reason: A (receiver registered as) pistol can become a rifle and then a pistol again but a rifle is ALWAYS a rifle and can never become a pistol unless you pay the tax stamp to make it a SBR.
A DIY receiver does NOT need to be registered as it is always yours and can never be sold.
(note: a pistol must still fit the bill of the BATF guideline of a pistol no stock,no way to attach a stock,no vertical grip in the front and a rifle must have a barrel longer than 16 inches unless its a SBR no matter who builds it)

and yes Foolish, no one loves you in your state....stupid fucking state :shaking:

basketcasejeep

12-03-2005, 08:34 AM

Tell you wife i also know how to knit, bake, cook, sew...basically any hobbies she might have i can give some input on :flipoff2:

Nope, none of those apply to her. She's a gamer... playing nintendogs as I type. :laughing: Oh well, I can bed and plead and sneak parts past her every now and then. :D

ok quick an dirty reason: A (receiver registered as) pistol can become a rifle and then a pistol again but a rifle is ALWAYS a rifle and can never become a pistol unless you pay the tax stamp to make it a SBR.
A DIY receiver does NOT need to be registered as it is always yours and can never be sold.
(note: a pistol must still fit the bill of the BATF guideline of a pistol no stock,no way to attach a stock,no vertical grip in the front and a rifle must have a barrel longer than 16 inches unless its a SBR no matter who builds it)

and yes Foolish, no one loves you in your state....stupid fucking state :shaking:

Rifle for me it is then, collapsible stock or folding should fit the bill for a decent beater, throw in the truck and fogetaboutit type of gun. I have a few questions about those stocks but will eventually post them in the other thread. :D

mudtoy67

12-03-2005, 11:09 AM

A DIY receiver does NOT need to be registered as it is always yours and can never be sold.

I hadn't caught this before. Are you saying that if I build my own reciever/rifle I can never sell it to another person? So if I decide I want to get rid of it (for some crazy reason:D ) the only way to let it go would be to destroy it?

PS thanks for all the gun related tech you share with everyone!

usmcdoc14

12-03-2005, 12:06 PM

I hadn't caught this before. Are you saying that if I build my own reciever/rifle I can never sell it to another person? So if I decide I want to get rid of it (for some crazy reason:D ) the only way to let it go would be to destroy it?

PS thanks for all the gun related tech you share with everyone!

correct.

the rifle is for you and you alone (The ATF has still not answered on "gifting" a home built receiver) You would only have to destroy the receive. The rest is considered "parts" :D

basketcasejeep

12-03-2005, 02:08 PM

Would you legally be able to swap in a registered receiver, if you wanted to sell the gun? Use the old receiver as a paperweight. :D

Drunk tank

12-03-2005, 02:58 PM

no one bothers me at the range with mine here in Oceanside. As soon as you pull it out all heads turn cause I guess no one ever sees them out here since theyre illegal. As soon as ya fire it though... all the jarheads are like "who's got the AK???"

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4103/p41906771tp.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3848/p41906769na.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6016/p41906754vc.jpg

Triaged

12-03-2005, 06:58 PM

Maybe you shouldn't post a pic with the SERIAL NUMBER in it

braxton357

12-03-2005, 07:17 PM

Ryan, that's the best looking ak I've seen in a while. I assume you didn't build it yourself? And I assume you know CA's laws?

Drunk tank

12-03-2005, 07:25 PM

No... I didnt build it myself. Only thing Ive done to it is the olive furniture and the ak74 muzzle brake. It had a little slant tip brake on it when I bought it new but I didnt like it. but it ha been spot welded on so i carfully took a grinder to it.... and split it in half and it lef tthe perfect threads on the barrel. Now I can change out stuff at will :D

As for the serial number.... whatever. Im the only one who knows where it is. And for anyone who asks its stored in Colorado where it is legal. :flipoff2: What are ya gonna do... look it up and see if it has a recal notice? :rolleyes:

aloharover

12-03-2005, 07:30 PM

it says an FFL is required for every AK they sell, do you have one because of your military backround

Now THAT is a splendid idea. Everyone start writing your congressman.
Maybe not issue them after completing basic, but maybe after a 6 year tour it should be automatic :D

Drunk tank

12-03-2005, 07:31 PM

aloharover

12-03-2005, 07:40 PM

http://207.176.137.9/picpost/AKrifle/EnforcerRifleS.jpg

Holy shit that is cool.

Thats pretty close to the one I am building. Have the same upper and lower hand guards and the hogue pistol grip.
Receiver cover is different and I want the ace stock. otherwise a near match :D

aloharover

12-03-2005, 07:45 PM

and yes Foolish, no one loves you in your state....stupid fucking state :shaking:

Sooooo what are the chances you could end up at 29 Palms, Pendelton, or North Island?

aloharover

12-03-2005, 07:49 PM

correct.

the rifle is for you and you alone (The ATF has still not answered on "gifting" a home built receiver) You would only have to destroy the receive. The rest is considered "parts" :D

On one of the gun builder sites someone scanned and posted in a letter they got back from ATF.
The law says that you can't build with the intention to sell unless you are a registered builder. But if in the future you do want to sell the rifle, you can.

mark_w

12-03-2005, 08:18 PM

Doc, your posts have motivated me to start working on that old mauser that's been sitting on my workbench since april. Today, I cut the front sight off, removed the rear sight and orders the crowning tools from brownells. Thanks for shaming me into getting off my damn ass on this.

usmcdoc14

12-03-2005, 08:31 PM

BTW... for anyone who is interested in those waffle mags.... k-var has gotten more http://www.k-var.com/product.asp?3=9

Of all the mags ive used.... these are my absolute favs!!!! nice tight fit into the reciever so no rattling around. feed the rounds perfect everytime as well. When i ordered mine they cost $8.99. definatly cost more now... but its still a reasonable price for the quality product.

not at that price :laughing: I have a PILE of them on the shelf i got for half that price last year :flipoff2:

and yes they are one of the best mags. They fit all AK's with no problems.

BUT BEWARE OF THE U.S. MAGS THAT LOOK LIKE THOSE !!!!!!
they are CRAP !!

usmcdoc14

12-03-2005, 08:32 PM

Sooooo what are the chances you could end up at 29 Palms, Pendelton, or North Island?

slim------none :flipoff2:

stuck here, VA, or FL

Traveller

12-03-2005, 10:39 PM

I'm really wanting to build an AK for myself now. I did a G3K SBR on a Century receiver ealier this year, and now I want a Krink. Someone was selling unissued Krink kits on one of the gun sites the other night and they all sold out before I could get my hands on one.

usmcdoc14

12-03-2005, 10:41 PM

Desert Jeepin

12-03-2005, 11:18 PM

Where would one look for the AK Parts kit $100 my flavor?

usmcdoc14

12-03-2005, 11:22 PM

Where would one look for the AK Parts kit $100 my flavor?

same dude in my above post or www.centerfiresystems.com get a romanian

surpip

12-03-2005, 11:29 PM

Now THAT is a splendid idea. Everyone start writing your congressman.
Maybe not issue them after completing basic, but maybe after a 6 year tour it should be automatic :D
fantastic, i have been in for 7 years where is mine?:D

you know i have always thought military should not have to pay taxes, seems kinda stoopid for us to pay our own wages huh?
kinda impossible to do though.