can i use a cab and chassy housing and 3/4 ton hubs and spindles to make it the width of a 3/4 ton?

Originally posted by brimy311
can i use a cab and chassy housing and 3/4 ton hubs and spindles to make it the width of a 3/4 ton?


Yep, the axle shafts are the same but the bearing hubs are different. You will need to swap to disk breaks also because the mounting flange for the backing plate is way down the tube on the dually 14 bolt.

here is my dilema...i bought a 3/4 ton housing and removed the cover to find the gears and everything rusted and nasty...so they are giving me a housing of a cab and chassy 1 ton that has good gears and carrier...so should i swap the gears into the 3/4 ton or use the housing wiht the gears and swap the hubs and stuff...? disc brakes are going on no matter what i use...

also, could i get the pinino and ring sand blasted? and just get new bearings? or are the gears toast?

You cant sand blast the gears. They are done as well as the bearings. I would take the dually 14 bolt, sell it for some decent cash and pick up a regular full width 14 bolt for cheap. But since you already have everything I would just run the dually housing with the full width bearing hubs. What are you using for a front axle? Would it be better to go with the 63" dually 14 bolt?

i've got a friend that might be very interested in the C&C hubs if you sell them.
e-mail me if they're for sale
Jeff

well here it is again, the c&c has no hubs or shafts, just gears and spindles and housing...the regular 14 bolt has shafts, hubs and nasty crappy gears..

i am running the 8-lug d44 from a f250, so i want width to be like wms-wms of like 68-69"

Originally posted by brimy311
well here it is again, the c&c has no hubs or shafts, just gears and spindles and housing...the regular 14 bolt has shafts, hubs and nasty crappy gears..

i am running the 8-lug d44 from a f250, so i want width to be like wms-wms of like 68-69"

Well if you are replacing the R&P and bearings who cares if they are rusty. If the c&c has the gears that you want then there you go. Does the full width housing have an open carrier so that you can detroit or weld it?

http://jeep-club.irtech.com/phils_mods/14Before.jpg

looks like this...is that an open carrier??

The open carriers have 4 pins and the gov-lock have 3

That looks like an open carrier to me.
Does the rusty housing have the same carrier type? If so and you are changing gears and lockers then I would just stay with the rusty housing. Either way all the parts will fit.

Keep it simple and have the gears set up in the full width housing. The wms to wms on my 14bolt that is single wheel is 67in. and my cab and chassis is 63in. The hubs from the single wheel will make it about 65in.So I would sell the empty cab and chassis housing and assemble the single wheel with those gears. That way you get the width you want and you dont have a bastardized rear axle.

I thought the only difference between c&c and full width was the bearing hubs? :confused:

Originally posted by wheelinjp
Keep it simple and have the gears set up in the full width housing. The wms to wms on my 14bolt that is single wheel is 67in. and my cab and chassis is 63in. The hubs from the single wheel will make it about 65in.So I would sell the empty cab and chassis housing and assemble the single wheel with those gears. That way you get the width you want and you dont have a bastardized rear axle.

where do you get 65"? the shafts are the same between the two meaning the only width difference is in the wheel hubs. if you put standard wheel hubs on a c&c rear you will have a standard 67" width right.

Originally posted by Slagburn
I thought the only difference between c&c and full width was the bearing hubs? :confused:

Yes.

Like high5 just said, with the single wheel hubs you have 67", and with the c&c hubs you have 63", on the same housing. But the other differences are the location of the brake backing plate mounts on the tube, and the drums.

One of the advantages of the 14 bolt is you really have a housing that has two available widths, without cutting tube. The most you'd have to do is move the location of the caliper brackets.

With the 63" you have something that is more reasonable for a SWB jeep, Scout EB or what have you....and then if you ever decide to go full width one day, you just need hubs (and move the brake brackets).

thanks guys, that way i can shave my housing too ;) while everything is out..