: Great SUV info source
Shifty 03-11-2002, 05:11 PM SUV info (http://http://www.suv.org/environ.html)
A great site full of info that you guys really should read if you're into SUV's.
Happy travels,
Shifty
link dont work :flipoff2:
ForestCam 03-11-2002, 05:35 PM Seems like a greenie site to me!
The federal corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards set the fuel economy goals for new passenger cars at 27.5 miles per gallon (mpg). But under the law, SUVs are not considered cars - they are characterized as light trucks. Light trucks only have to achieve 20.7 mpg. It should be noted that this is an average for all light trucks, which is why it is possible to have SUVs on the road that only achieve 12 mpg. In fact, some SUV, like the massive Ford Excursion, are so large that they no longer qualify as "light trucks," and are not subject to any kind of fuel economy standards.
IMHO if it sits on a truck frame it's still a truck!
Contrary to some rhetoric you may have heard, global warming has been extremely well studied.
Yea it sure has, for the last 30 or 40 years! The Earth is how old?
The NAS study specifically pointed out that safety would not be sacrificed, and actually assumes an increase in vehicle weight, which is associated with certain safety-enhancing features. (25) However, the NAS points out that reducing the weight of the largest SUVs on the roads would make all drivers safer, since the biggest SUVs tend to do the most damage in an accident.
So all parties in the accident get killed not just the people in the smaller vehicle?
I know, lets just outlaw the smaller unsafe cars and make everyone drive trucks and SUV's!:D
We may wish people who don't need giant vehicles won't buy them, but people will buy whatever they want.
Damn straight!:D
The good news is that SUVs can be improved without much effort, and without sacrificing safety. Automakers have made some baby steps, but they have so far been unwilling to make a serious effort to improve these vehicles.
This kind of thinking brought us the "New and Improved" Chevy Trail Blazer. 4 wheel independant suspension POS!
Roxywheels 03-11-2002, 05:41 PM How nice that you took the time to register to our BB in order to spam it with your site...thanks but no thanks. :roxy:
Old Scout 03-11-2002, 05:47 PM Faucking tree hugger comes and takes a big dump on POR!:mad3: :mad3: :mad3:
Shifty 03-11-2002, 06:19 PM Sorry, the smog must have clouded my posting of that link, let's try again.
www.suv.org
Thank you, have a nice day. ;)
ForestCam 03-11-2002, 06:23 PM Originally posted by Shifty
Sorry, the smog must have clouded my posting of that link, let's try again.
www.suv.organic.bullshit
Thank you, have a nice day. ;)
No it's "Fawk you, have a fawked up day fawker!":flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
Cutter 03-11-2002, 06:32 PM they sell these on that site:rolleyes:
Shifty 03-11-2002, 06:35 PM Hmm, an angry bunch, aren't you?
Just thought you should know all the facts, I imagine you don't hear much in here about how SUv's are allowed to pollute up to 5 times more than cars, or how there are 10,000 premature deaths in the U.S. (Source: www.epa.gov) due to poor air quality?
I'd be happy to discuss/debate/throw a fit with anyone who'd like to step into the ring. :mad:
ForestCam 03-11-2002, 06:38 PM or how there are 10,000 premature deaths in the U.S.
Well there's 10,000 less people driving SUV's then huh!:smokin:
Old Scout 03-11-2002, 06:42 PM http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=392519
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=392523
Never seen a ecno box that can pull my SAILBOAT!
nakona 03-11-2002, 06:42 PM I'm not angry.
I'm merely selfish & self-centered.
If you would tell me where your offices are I would be happy to come by and smoke a great big Monte Cristo right in the reception area.
After eating a half dozen burritos for lunch of course.
ForestCam 03-11-2002, 06:49 PM I finaly decided on a sig. Thanks for the idea nakona!:cool:
Old Scout 03-11-2002, 06:50 PM Here ya go shifty, do some reading here:
http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/
AgaveHound 03-11-2002, 07:03 PM Originally posted by Shifty
Hmm, an angry bunch, aren't you?
Just thought you should know all the facts, I imagine you don't hear much in here about how SUv's are allowed to pollute up to 5 times more than cars, or how there are 10,000 premature deaths in the U.S. (Source: www.epa.gov) due to poor air quality?
I'd be happy to discuss/debate/throw a fit with anyone who'd like to step into the ring. :mad:
I'd think you idiots would be happy that there will be 10,000 fewer vehicles on the road in the years to come. Morons.
Just because they are 'allowed' to 'pollute up to 5 times more than cars', doesn't mean they do. My '76 Scout burns freakin clean. :mad: And I'd bet that the vast majority of vehicles owned by regulars on this board are kept up better and in better tune than the average car.
And poor air quality can mean INDDOOR air, not just vehicle gasses, give applicable information or keep it to yourself. Go lie to someone else. We don't need ya' here.
SanDiegoCJ 03-11-2002, 07:07 PM Originally posted by Old Scout
Here ya go shifty, do some reading here:
http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I figured someone would find that useful.:D :D
YellowSub1962 03-11-2002, 10:47 PM I thought the board was doing pretty good policing themselves....then Old Scout proved it!! :D:D:D
:usa:
LOL i don't see a problem with flaming some idiot who is trying to show us the evil of our ways. fuck that guy he is a moron and with any luck he will be one of the next 10,000 people killed by SUV's :skull:
synds9 03-12-2002, 07:17 PM i'll run you over jack ass!
Roxywheels 03-12-2002, 07:17 PM Ok....let the games begin...again! ;) :roxy:
Old Scout 03-12-2002, 07:25 PM Originally posted by Yellowsub1962
I thought the board was doing pretty good policing themselves....then Old Scout proved it!! :D:D:D
:usa:
I guess I'm more of a Eco-Nazi's Nightmare than you are !:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:loosen up man, you think he came here looking for tea and cookies?
ForestCam 03-12-2002, 07:58 PM Originally posted by Shifty
Hmm, an angry bunch, aren't you?
I'd be happy to discuss/debate/throw a fit with anyone who'd like to step into the ring. :mad:
For wanting to debate he/she kinda vanished huh?:smokin:
Originally posted by camo
fuck that guy he is a moron and with any luck he will be one of the next 10,000 people killed by SUV's
How's about one person killed by 10,000 SUV's?:D
Originally posted by Shifty
Hmm, an angry bunch, aren't you?
Just thought you should know all the facts, I imagine you don't hear much in here about how SUv's are allowed to pollute up to 5 times more than cars, or how there are 10,000 premature deaths in the U.S. (Source: www.epa.gov) due to poor air quality?
I'd be happy to discuss/debate/throw a fit with anyone who'd like to step into the ring. :mad:
Riiiight...:rolleyes: And just how do you suppose they have proven that? Oh wait, they can't! Do you actually believe the EPA was around when there was some REALLY clean air to compare the air today with? Somehow, I think not. All they can do is make assumptions and its idiots like yourself who believe them and continue to regurgetate their fallacious propaganda. I bet you believe everything you hear, don't you?
LMAO
92x"and who the phuck said a little judicious flaming aint funny"j
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