: UPDATE - Wellsville OH problems


Mel85CJ
03-12-2002, 06:20 PM
Rick talked to the gentleman referenced in the previous post tonight in regard to Wellsville, OH (Yellow Creek) trails.

This particular gentleman is one of the landowners (there are several).

The basic situation is that the trash, burned cars, unattended campfires, rowdy behavior etc. has been out of control. There is one particular landowner that it at his rope's end in regard to this and is teetering on donating his 800 acres to Ohio DNR for a State Park - which would not be a good thing as far as 4x4 land use.

What is most likely to happen is tommorrow he (and others) are going to try to meet with the disgruntled landowner (and the other landowners) and convince him not to donate the land, that the land will become limited access. That there will be gates and only those with permission will be allowed to enter.

Basically, it is our feeling that having a limited access Wellsville is better than having no Wellsville to ride on. The gentleman has a buggy and likes to ride on the land also, and went on to say how if things remain as they are it will eventually be closed just like Hillsville & Bear Run have been closed.

Rick volunteered HRJA to help out in anyway with cleanup days, other services etc. He also mentioned that other area clubs have expressed interest in helping out also.

At one time, Western Reserve 4x4 club held a cleanup and wrote a check out for $1000 to have the garbage hauled away. That was well appreciated, they had held a *pay* event to help fund that, which wasn't liked to much, but it was a decent deal all around.

The gentleman does not want to make this a *business*, he wants to keep it simple. Not a pay to play place, just a permission required place. He has been there for 35 years.

We have his phone number and fax number. We are going to be writing a letter and faxing it to him tommorrow pledging HRJA's assistance in the future. If any other club director would like to do the same, please email me at events@hrja.org and I will email you the fax number and a copy of the letter which you are free to use verbatim if desired. He is going to take the letters with him tommorrow to help plead his case. He is optimistic that a resolution can be met.

-Mel West
Events Director, HRJA
www.hrja.org

badassjeepguy
03-12-2002, 08:57 PM
email sent! i will do my part for TRIANGLE

TODDK
03-13-2002, 01:55 AM
Hey count on PREMIERE we would be glad to help! We can not afford to loose anymore land, or have a bad reputation on the off road community!!!

Dick Hertzer
03-13-2002, 05:17 AM
E-mail sent.
Thanks for the info.

Brent

little_joe
03-13-2002, 05:58 AM
Thanks for the update Mel. I'll email you in a second and be sure to get this out to all Ohio clubs asap.

I believe we are still on for the cleanup this weekend..........

Mel85CJ
03-13-2002, 10:30 AM
BTT

Krylon..
03-13-2002, 10:56 AM
I will e-mail HRJA on behalf of IN TOO DEEP Off-Road Club but also keep us posted here! Wellsville(Yellow Creek) is a cool place!

Last Labor Day we talked with a bunch of locals that had buggies and one of them is probably the guy you talked to! They are a great bunch of people! I have a few of their phone numbers at home I will call them and find out some more if possible...

Squanto
03-13-2002, 10:57 AM
BTT

Message sent to the RRORC so the right people can get in contact to.

Thank you Mel!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Mel85CJ
03-13-2002, 11:51 AM
FYI, here is a link to the letter which I faxed for HRJA.

http://www.in2jeep.com/wellsville.htm

I would encourage other clubs to do the same. The conversation last night made it seem that limited access is inevitable. I'm would believe that a resolve can be met that will allow responsible off-roaders to use the land whether they are a club member or not.

We will know more in the coming days. Several people have emailed me and asked me "what can I do to help, I am not affiliated with any club". First, the best thing would be to join a club and get the entire club involved. However, I can respect the fact that some people just don't want to belong to any clubs at all. (I don't understand it, but I respect it). So what you can do is try to keep your ears open for cleanup days, so you can come and participate.

BTW - some websites for clubs in the region:

Heritage Region Jeep Alliance - http://www.hrja.org
(Western PA, Eastern OH, Northern WV Jeep only club)

Triangle 4 Wheelers - http://www.triangle4wd.com
(Western PA all breed 4x4 club)

Western Reserve 4 Wheelers - http://www.wrev.org
(Northeast OH all breed 4x4 club)

Emails:
Premier Crawlers - toddkish@hotmail.com
(Western PA hardcore 4x4 club)

In Too Deep - michael.longley@surf724.com
(Eastern OH 4x4 club)

If any other club who is from the area would like to be reprsented, please post it here. If you do not have a website for your club, I would be glad to make up a one page webpage under my www.in2jeep.com site that I manage.

Thanks again,
-Mel

Krylon..
03-13-2002, 11:56 AM
michael.longley@surf724.com[/email]
(Eastern OH 4x4 club)

If any other club who is from the area would like to be reprsented, please post it here. If you do not have a website for your club, I would be glad to make up a one page webpage under my www.in2jeep.com site that I manage.

Thanks again,
-Mel [/B]

Mel - The club e-mail addy is intoodeep@surf724.com, but the other one is fine also! And are in Western PA... :D

Nacube4x4
03-13-2002, 12:47 PM
I sent you an email.

Thanks,

Chubster
03-13-2002, 12:54 PM
Please add Rough Rangers Off Road Club to the list. We have a cleanup run scheduled for May 11-12 at Wellsville.

We have alot of info posted on our boards at RRORC.com about the subject.....

Sent you an email.....

Thanks

Chubby!

littlewhiteyj
03-13-2002, 04:42 PM
there is a dirt/ quad club from pittsburgh my dad belongs to T.R.C.R ( Three Rivers Competition Riders )

http://www.trcr.org

can some one contact them too? i think if we get ALL the orginized Clubs together we will have a great chance of telling land owners the Clubs are more responsible then( JOE SHMOW down the street) i beleve Steve Stiller from north gate may help in contacting them faster. my dad is out of town for a few weeks.

We may not able to stop the locals from dumping. But if we ( the clubs ) CLEAN up after them, then maybe we can make the land owners see that someone will take care of there land. maybe they should shut it down. and make it club ride only. i know to join traingle all you need is two trail rides , a club meetingand 20 bucks a year. why not join????? :) This will also stop the sueing from jo shmows .

TREEHUGGER
03-13-2002, 05:47 PM
:smokin:

85TrailToy
03-13-2002, 05:54 PM
Nice work Mel! :beer:

tinknocker
03-15-2002, 03:31 PM
jeff from Kinzua Jeep Association chiming in. we'll be down on the 23rd doing a cleanup.

Pottsy
03-26-2002, 09:08 AM
Maybe we could bind together an effort to clean

check out the link.... click here (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42619)

Pottsy