After some arse end issues, I am looking for ideas for a rear axle swap. I have seen mention of a D44 swap and also a Toy swap. Anyone able to offer any details as far as model years to look for etc?

I am interested to hear about people who have doen the toy swap in the rangie as thats wat i am doin now.

Ow and i dont mean the toy centre swap i mean entire diff swap :p

After some arse end issues, I am looking for ideas for a rear axle swap. I have seen mention of a D44 swap and also a Toy swap. Anyone able to offer any details as far as model years to look for etc?

See the Search up top? Between New Post and Quick Links?
Use it :flipoff2:

I did 13 times. It hung each time and got time out errors.

Pendy just got done putting a pair of Rover-variant D60s under a Disco.

Way has a D44 on the front of his Rangie.

Frankenrover has uber-hotrod 9" Ford/Mog(?) axles beneath his truck.

Sometime before Hell freezes over, I might just have 60s under mine.

Volts911 has been considering a Toyota swap in his DII.

Lots of folks have done it and discussed it here.

Keep looking.

"Frankenrover has uber-hotrod 9" Ford/Mog(?) axles beneath his truck."

No he doesn't They are regular 404s cut down

-ben

"Frankenrover has uber-hotrod 9" Ford/Mog(?) axles beneath his truck."

No he doesn't They are regular 404s cut down

-ben

Oops! I knew they were something cool!

Paul you're thinking of BuckOn37s - he's got the rover9 - 9" centers with rover wheel pattern, IIRC. Someone else has this same setup I think it was Penrose but can't remember.

Paul you're thinking of BuckOn37s - he's got the rover9 - 9" centers with rover wheel pattern, IIRC. Someone else has this same setup I think it was Penrose but can't remember.

Is it SF or FF?

I've had little luck finding an axle mfg that will do a rover pattern on a 1.5" SF D60 shaft.

Paul you're thinking of BuckOn37s - he's got the rover9 - 9" centers with rover wheel pattern, IIRC. Someone else has this same setup I think it was Penrose but can't remember.

Thanx for the correction! :flipoff2:

This is what I was suggesting to Alex before he went Toyota.

PT

Tis and buck both have rover patterns on ford 9" centers with 60 outters. KC did both of them, but buck got his 60 knuckles done somewhere else. I doubt he'll make anymore there isn't a market for it and the time involved makes it too expensive to sell and make a reasonable profit. He might make some but I doubt it. Probably be easier to get a normal bolt pattern and some new rims.

-ben

Tis and buck both have rover patterns on ford 9" centers with 60 outters. KC did both of them, but buck got his 60 knuckles done somewhere else. I doubt he'll make anymore there isn't a market for it and the time involved makes it too expensive to sell and make a reasonable profit. He might make some but I doubt it. Probably be easier to get a normal bolt pattern and some new rims.

-ben

I am sure KC is right, but my 60 outers were $600. Process was not too difficult, so I have been told :) He took a stock 60 front, drilled out the hub to the right pattern and plugged the excess d-60 holes with a hydrolic press. Cool thing is that everything is bone stock really, the only modified part is the pattern, so any spares are easy to buy. I frekin dig the big 60 brakes, thing stops on a dime. And it is nice to have selectable hubs, if you drive on the street. I kinda dig keeping it rover, but switching to another pattern wouldn't be bad either. But, if you are going to the work of doing something custom like this, might as well do it.

Thanx for the correction! :flipoff2:

This is what I was suggesting to Alex before he went Toyota.

PT

Well, kind of. we were talking about using a 9 center with rover outers, including spindles, hubs, brakes, etc... and concluded that the idea was worthless because the axles wouldn't fit through the rover spindles.

Is it SF or FF?

I've had little luck finding an axle mfg that will do a rover pattern on a 1.5" SF D60 shaft.

Can you not get someone to sell you a blank and then drill it out yourself?

Or does no one want to let blanks go?

"Well, kind of. we were talking about using a 9 center with rover outers, including spindles, hubs, brakes, etc... and concluded that the idea was worthless because the axles wouldn't fit through the rover spindles."

yes you can do it. That's how buckon37s truck was before he changed over to 60 outers. You have to modify the spindle but it can be done.

-ben

I felt that it was not worth it to replace the whole housing, and go through all the work of welding on the rover ends, only to be able to run 31 spline axles. the solution mentioned above (using 60 outers with redrilled hubs for the rover pattern) is much better.

How are the Salisburys setup? Are they merely smaller diameter axles that will fit through the stub axles, or are there different stub axles? Are the Salisbury side gears 24 spline, the same diameter as a stock Rover axle? In the case of the Salisbury in my 109, I may have to pull a shaft to see what it looks like.

I see a coupla different ways to achieve the Rover outers with inner D60 hardware/rotating assemblies. Granted, necking down the axle so it will fit through the stub axle would be a bitch on both assembly and disassembly, but many other axles have similar varying diameter axle shafts. I don't think the loss of strength would be that great and might even act as a fuse to resist other breakge in more expensive parts of the axle. Given the relatively low cost of Moser's full floating (splined on both ends) axles, if one were to break one, it would almost certainly be the least expensive and more easily replaced component. The rear 60 I have has huge feaking stub axles-and I thought Rover stub axles/bearings were big! I have yet to see what the front looks like as far as stub axle diameter is concerned. On the front, the only issue is fitting the shaft through the swivel ball opening. I'm thinking this might not be such a big issue as (running out to shop to have a looksee to confirm my thoughts....) as it looks as though the swivel opening could fairly easily be bored to 1.5" without significant loss of strength. So, it looks as though the front would be the easier of the two to accomodate Rover outers and larger halfshafts.

PT

Sals have D60 size side gears witth 24 splines in them.
Keith would be a good guy to talk to about spindles to fit 1.5" dia shafts.

-Jeff