ive pretty much decided, just curious what yall think....

I know when I asked about winches, almost every response said get a used 8274 over any other new one :eek:

Must be the Holy Grail of winches :D

If you want to spend that much get an 8274, if you want to save money get an x8000. I don't see any reason to spend $300 for the 9500 over the 8000 unless you're too heavy. The 8274 is hands down better than the two though if you can mount it okay.

-Steve

That, and you can give the 8274 to your grandchildren someday.

Originally posted by offroadr35
If you want to spend that much get an 8274, if you want to save money get an x8000. I don't see any reason to spend $300 for the 9500 over the 8000 unless you're too heavy. The 8274 is hands down better than the two though if you can mount it okay.

-Steve i want line speed though and the 9500 has fast loaded line speed........

I luv my hs9500I have had it two years now !

i would not trade a brass monkey for my 8274,but it is big and bulky.i think i will try a smaller winch for my new toy...

Originally posted by badassjeepguy
i want line speed though and the 9500 has fast loaded line speed........ and sometimes when you let off of the switch it will stop, seriously, we were using one at the UROC competition, the thing would wind under power for 5+seconds after you let off the switch :eek: and the guy with his hand stuck in the fairlead is the one that thought it was a cool winch.

Originally posted by Brent Orton
and sometimes when you let off of the switch it will stop, seriously, we were using one at the UROC competition, the thing would wind under power for 5+seconds after you let off the switch :eek: and the guy with his hand stuck in the fairlead is the one that thought it was a cool winch.



the 8274 or 9500? ive seen the 8274's do that

We have a HS9500i on my '85 CJ7, and Rick has an old 8274 on his '79 CJ7. If I was to buy new again, I'd buy the 8274 from Advanced Auto for the $864 - hands down. The 8274 is very fast, the 9500 is very fast, too but it can be too fast and you have to really watch winding it in. Plus the 8274 has thicker rope, and more of it - 150' vs. 125' (or at least that is a difference on the two we have). Don't get me wrong, I love my 9500, no problems with it.

Tell ya what Steff, come up here to Zelie to our house and we can do a winch off between the two jeeps and you can decide for yourself! :D Just bring some

:beer:

I love my 9500i. Its fast under load, but the brake isnt up to par, it reels in a good 5-8ft after you let off the remote. 8274 kick ass, but they are bulky. Go for the 9500i i hear the new models have a better brake. I have had mine for 8 months with no problems. Feels like it will pull a house down. Good Luck. If you get it from Clemson you should have it in 3-4 days form GA to PA.

I didnt know you could mount a winch on a John Deer, without it being a PTO!




:flipoff2:

Originally posted by YJ4RoX
I love my 9500i. Its fast under load, but the brake isnt up to par, it reels in a good 5-8ft after you let off the remote. 8274 kick ass, but they are bulky. Go for the 9500i i hear the new models have a better brake. I have had mine for 8 months with no problems. Feels like it will pull a house down. Good Luck. If you get it from Clemson you should have it in 3-4 days form GA to PA.

I didnt know you could mount a winch on a John Deer, without it being a PTO!

:flipoff2:

I ordered an x8000i from Clemson on a Thursday. Monday morning it was at the door :D

Tell ya what Steff, come up here to Zelie to our house and we can do a winch off between the two jeeps and you can decide for yourself! Just bring some

Some people will turn anything into a competition, LOL :D. Is there beer involved? :D

Originally posted by offroadr35
If you want to spend that much get an 8274, if you want to save money get an x8000. I don't see any reason to spend $300 for the 9500 over the 8000 unless you're too heavy. The 8274 is hands down better than the two though if you can mount it okay.

-Steve
LINE SPEED..... repeat it 10 times. LINE speed. For wheeling it's a BIG plus. the HS9500 and 8274 are the fastest on the market. When your stuck often after a short tug the truck will get unstuck and be able to travel on it's own but the winch can't keep up and you have to stop again so you don't run over or birds nest the cable. Having a winch that can real in unloaded at 75fpm is a big deal. I also don't care that they say a 8274 is only rated 8k. I have seen a 8274 out pull a Mile marker several times. the MM is rated 10.5k
If you can't afford a 8274 then go for the HS9500. You can get them in the mid 7's if you look.

I love my 8274-50. I just wish it wasn't so big. I have only had one problem with the 8274. I fried the motor and that was my own dumb fault. I didn't stop to let the winch cool when it started to get hot. I bought a new motor from a starter shop and it's all good.

I may try a 9500 on the new buggy. (I have a long time before I need to worry about a winch for the buggy):D

So with that said
go with the 8274

Originally posted by syko
. I bought a new motor from a starter shop and it's all good.



How much did that run you..?

8274.
No question.

Gotta love the spur gears - so simple you can strip and rebuild yourself.

Also love not having the brake, or anything else, in the drum.

Less heat buildup in drum, better for the newer UHMWPE (plasma) winch ropes.

Also like the bigger drum...which means either 150' of 5/16 or 100' of 3/8. - 9500HS will have 100' 5/16 and HS9500i will have 125' 5/16.

My supplier quoted me $500 Cdn ($350us) for a new 8274 motor.

Originally posted by YJ4RoX
I love my 9500i. Its fast under load, but the brake isnt up to par

I believe that Warn has changed the brake on the 9500i to using six pads instead of the old style of three pads nowadays...

I still got three in mine but will be changing it out shortly as its pretty much toast...we'll see if 6 pads makes a difference.

Originally posted by SniperFire




...we'll see if 6 pads makes a difference.

It does.

Originally posted by Mel85CJ
Plus the 8274 has thicker rope, and more of it - 150' vs. 125'

Both winches use 5/16" wire rope.

get em TJoop!! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Welby
Some people will turn anything into a competition, LOL :D. Is there beer involved? :D

Look at what you did now Welby. You mentioned the word COMETITION. Bert is going to post he's going to Zelie to show off his winch, then change his mind and back out. It's all your falt.

they shouldn't even be called warn they should be called



m-8274


no other winch will do.

Ive got two of the 8274's, need I say more?

What about the fact that there are more 8274’s in the world

Visual vote




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They keep the twigs out of your radiator to!:D

8274!!!

I look at it like the 8274 is old tech and the HS9500 is new tech. One is nostalgic and one is new. Both work great.

I bought a HS9500I. I worked it good a few weeks ago during a snow run. I am VERY impressed.

I have done some VERY hard pulls with the 8274. I also have a Ramsey 12000. I now run only with the 8274. Why? Because I extended the drum to 14 inches. 150 Ft of 3/8 rope is on now with only about 3 wraps. I could easily put on 300 ft if needed. Can that be done with a 9500? :D

I have an HS9500 for the Explorer and I'm buying an 8274 from a friend for the Willys.

My 9500 is brand new in the box but I've had it for a year and a half. How do I tell if it has the new brakes or the old?

Originally posted by flimmy


Look at what you did now Welby. You mentioned the word COMETITION. Bert is going to post he's going to Zelie to show off his winch, then change his mind and back out. It's all your falt.



hehehehehee im not saying a word! hehehehehe :D

Originally posted by flimmy


Look at what you did now Welby. You mentioned the word COMETITION. Bert is going to post he's going to Zelie to show off his winch, then change his mind and back out. It's all your falt.

OK, smartass, Lets get it awwn. I bet my winch is faster than yours. AND THEY ARE BOTH m8000I's.

How do I know? you ask,,, Simple, My cable is shorter than yours and it dont have as far to pull :D

Good one there flimmy... very smartass.. very smartass indeed. :D

Originally posted by Mel85CJ


How much did that run you..?
It was around $130.

Rob why not get the best you see what the club uses... That should clear that up...
8274
Nothing else to say!
lets get some :beer: and wings soon... when is good for you.....

Originally posted by TODDK
Rob why not get the best you see what the club uses... That should clear that up...
8274
Nothing else to say!
lets get some :beer: and wings soon... when is good for you.....


mmm hhhmm club uses, but i like to be different.... :D


ahhh, hell im so damned busy............. maybe next monday..... im in need of some :beer: and wings :D

I wanted a 8274, but after getting one, i did not like it, it blocked off to much of my radiator (EB's run hot enough as it is), i switched out to the HS9500i, love it, small, compact, fast, work great

Originally posted by badassjeepguy



mmm hhhmm club uses, but i like to be different.... :D


ahhh, hell im so damned busy............. maybe next monday..... im in need of some :beer: and wings :D

DIFFERANT IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER!
Just because you have something that everyone else does not does not mean it is the best.... any WARN is the best all others fail in comparison to relibility warranty claims, etc....
whatever you get I do not care but damn get rid of that ramsey

lol, im gettin the warn, and i never said different is always better..... its just.......... different... :D as far as i can see these 2 are the best on the market to this date.......... the lower profiled one will fit nicely........ not that i need it or anything :rolleyes: lol

Originally posted by Bert
Good one there flimmy... very smartass.. very smartass indeed. :D

Bert, I try LOL :D

So you are not buying the 8274 ? ...
This should be interesting. There is one guy in our tellico group that runs some other winch, he will be glad to have someone else share the heat...
Those 8274 are overrated anyway. I bought mine (used) just 15 years ago, and now it's already starting to give me some crap.... the other day I was chained off to a tree pulling a 10,000 lb. forklift thru 18" of mud, and the bit*h jumped out of gear a couple times ! WTF ?...

badassjeepguy, you need the winch we have at work. I don't know who makes it but it's badass. I know it's a 45,000 k and has about 1,800 ft of line on it. It has 2 speeds, power out, and free spool. I've used it to pull a 25,000 k line truck out of the mud and it drug the truck 6 ft backwards with the outriggers down doing it. The only problem is I don't think it will fit on the front of your jeep. It would take up the entire back seat. One nice thing about it is the roller fairlead at the drum that guides the cable back on the drum nice and even. :D

8274 all the way. I like the old school stuff.

Those 8274 are overrated anyway. I bought mine (used) just 15 years ago, and now it's already starting to give me some crap....

Bwa ha ha ha :D Good one!

How long has the HS9500i been around...what's the oldest one doing now?

Dad has the 8274's older brother...still doing daily farm duty on the front of the old Land Rover

And look at it this way...the 8274 is so bulletproof simple that

a) dirtrod likes it, and
b) even I couldn't overcomplicate a complete tear down and rebuild.

Now if that's not a "Siskel and Ebert" style 2 thumbs up, I don't know what is.

:p

BillaVista

Siskll and Ebert.. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Whenever I get mine sold, its all 8274-50 for me!

Rob I think your heart is set on the 9500, that is good my 8274 will be around for years and probaly your 9500 too. But damn the 8274 looks so damn nice on the front of a Jeep and all of the little wisher and wanters have saliva running down their chins...
I hope which ever one you get you do not regret your desicion.

Todd, i just saw your location......lol im jealous of that........ cant wait to get outta the shitty city.....