: where to get an AX-15 to D300 adapter/clocking ring?
robobx 03-14-2002, 03:09 PM Ok I have my flipped D300 ready to go in behind the AX-15 on my 99 TJ. I also have an RE longarm lift, the case will hit the skid unless is is clocked up at least 1". I'd like to clock it 1.5-2".
ANyone know where to get a clocking ring that will mate the two together without extra drilling and tapping?
It seems "Blitzed" has made some of these, but I have been unable to contact him.
Anyone?
Thanks, Rob
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v5/9/68/80/33196880rWcXAE_ph
Blitzed 03-14-2002, 05:07 PM You have mail!
robobx 03-15-2002, 03:44 AM email didn't come through, try again.
or give me some info here.
Oxjockey 03-15-2002, 05:20 AM I'm no TJ guru, but itsn't there supposed to be a fastener on the LCA bolt on the left? :D
robobx 03-15-2002, 05:57 AM :rolleyes: during install I lost the nut.
Haven't driven yet.
Thanks for pointing tha out though, I guess I should probably replace it.
Oxjockey 03-15-2002, 08:07 AM The AA kit apparently has a deeper input shaft to make up for the adapter - possibly worth the extra cost of the AA kit vs others. Necessary? Probably not, but that's 5/8" of spline engagement you'll be missing.
Bryan
GaJeep94YJ 03-15-2002, 12:40 PM I got mine from www.novak-adapt.com $150
robobx 03-15-2002, 01:47 PM Originally posted by GaJeep94YJ
I got mine from www.novak-adapt.com $150
Thanks a bunch. Great deal and super service. I had an invoice in my email within 5 minutes of hanging up.
Blitzed 03-15-2002, 06:35 PM Originally posted by Oxjockey
The AA kit apparently has a deeper input shaft to make up for the adapter - possibly worth the extra cost of the AA kit vs others. Necessary? Probably not, but that's 5/8" of spline engagement you'll be missing.
Bryan
You would only lose 3/8th if you use the the modified bearing that comes with the flip kit. but i tell people to not use the bearing and use a thicker clocking ring. In stock form you need a 7/8" spacer to mount the 300 to a ax-15 or aw4 so if you dont use the bearing and use the thicker ring you keep stock spline engament and seal dapth.
blitz@reach.net
robobx 03-16-2002, 09:27 AM a standard clocking ring is designed to clock the case counter-clockwise. Would it still work if I need to clock it clockwise?
Blitzed 03-16-2002, 05:59 PM Yes mine will still work I use 5 clocking hole insted of three so you can just go the oppisite way.
the other TBone 03-16-2002, 06:36 PM I have a dumb question, I am going to be putting the D300 behind my ax15 in my YJ. I am not going to be running it flipped, so Ill have it as a pass side dump, and of course I have an axle to match. My question is, what do I need to put this toghter? Is it as simple as just an adapter or do I need a shaft also? I was told that it will cost $500-600 to get the D300 to mate to the AX15(94 6cyl, 23 spline if Im not mistaken) I looked that the novak site and at A/A., and both sell an adapter with no mention of a shaft or needed shaft, and it costs alot less than the $500 to $600 I was told. Could you help shed some light on this please.
Thanks
Tom
Blue97TJ 03-17-2002, 04:57 PM Originally posted by Blitzed
You would only lose 3/8th if you use the the modified bearing that comes with the flip kit. but i tell people to not use the bearing and use a thicker clocking ring. In stock form you need a 7/8" spacer to mount the 300 to a ax-15 or aw4 so if you dont use the bearing and use the thicker ring you keep stock spline engament and seal dapth.
blitz@reach.net
This sounds interesting. One of the things DEO has you do to mount the D300 behind the AX-15 is remove the rear tranny output shaft seal. I assume this is to allow the input shaft to slide in to the tranny. They say the rear seal is not needed since the tcase now becomes the rear seal. Not sure I'm thrilled by this. Will running your adapter/clocking ring allow me to avoid removing this tranny seal? Also, I assume this will also allow me to not have to modify (shorten) the input bearing retainer on the tcase. Is this true?
If this is the case, how much? :D
Chris
Blitzed 03-17-2002, 05:56 PM Yes that is true....The input bearing housing of the 300 hit the output seal of the ax-15. If you remove that seal then you would have to use RTV sealent on the face of the 300 to seal it to the ax-15, I can see that leaking alot. When you remove the seal to make the 300 mount flush you still have to grind off 3/8ths of the output shaft of the ax-15. So by using the ring you will not have to remove the seal or grind the output and you keep the stock spline engagment. $160 US
Blitzed 03-17-2002, 06:02 PM Originally posted by the other TBone
I have a dumb question, I am going to be putting the D300 behind my ax15 in my YJ. I am not going to be running it flipped, so Ill have it as a pass side dump, and of course I have an axle to match. My question is, what do I need to put this toghter? Is it as simple as just an adapter or do I need a shaft also? I was told that it will cost $500-600 to get the D300 to mate to the AX15(94 6cyl, 23 spline if Im not mistaken) I looked that the novak site and at A/A., and both sell an adapter with no mention of a shaft or needed shaft, and it costs alot less than the $500 to $600 I was told. Could you help shed some light on this please.
Thanks
Tom
All you need is a 7/8ths spacer...They call it and adapter to make it sound fancy. As mentioned this is to keep the input bearing from hitting the seal of the tranny. No shaft is needed the t-case is 23 spline and so is the tranny and the both have the same 6 bolt round pattern...spacer and presto!
Blue97TJ 03-17-2002, 06:45 PM Originally posted by Blitzed
Yes that is true....The input bearing housing of the 300 hit the output seal of the ax-15. If you remove that seal then you would have to use RTV sealent on the face of the 300 to seal it to the ax-15, I can see that leaking alot. When you remove the seal to make the 300 mount flush you still have to grind off 3/8ths of the output shaft of the ax-15. So by using the ring you will not have to remove the seal or grind the output and you keep the stock spline engagment. $160 US
OK. Sent you an email
Chris
1TONTJ 03-18-2002, 05:48 AM My friend Cory Morgan at Blitz@reach.net produces these. I have on on my TJ. They are US$150 and there are no changes to the seals required.
Here's a pic of it on the D300:
http://jeep-club.irtech.com/phils_mods/D300CrossoverLinkage.jpg
HTH,
Phil
1TONTJ 03-18-2002, 05:56 AM HAHAHAHA!!! Sory Cory - just noticed you are ON the board now. Guess my price listed of $150 was old.
Sorry - just trying to help you out.
The picture I posted is of the one from blitzed
Phil
Blue97TJ 03-18-2002, 07:14 AM Originally posted by 1TONTJ
HAHAHAHA!!! Sory Cory - just noticed you are ON the board now. Guess my price listed of $150 was old.
Sorry - just trying to help you out.
The picture I posted is of the one from blitzed
Phil
Maybe that's the Phil Jensen Discount? :D
Chris K
Rodney YJ 03-18-2002, 08:30 AM Are there different lengths of output shafts on a AX15. I saw a website that said the earlier one were a diff. length then the newer ones, but on Advance adapters site is says the are all AX15 are the same output shaft length. Can someone verify this before I make plans to do a d300 swap. Mine is a 90 model.
robobx 03-18-2002, 08:43 AM Originally posted by 1TONTJ
HAHAHAHA!!! Sory Cory - just noticed you are ON the board now. Guess my price listed of $150 was old.
Sorry - just trying to help you out.
The picture I posted is of the one from blitzed
Phil
Thanks 1ton. definitely looks like a quality product.I should have mine here in about 10 days or so.:D
Thanks again Blitzed for all your help and patience. I will defintely pass the word on your product.
Blitzed 03-18-2002, 06:01 PM Originally posted by Rodney YJ
Are there different lengths of output shafts on a AX15. I saw a website that said the earlier one were a diff. length then the newer ones, but on Advance adapters site is says the are all AX15 are the same output shaft length. Can someone verify this before I make plans to do a d300 swap. Mine is a 90 model.
As far as i know they are all the same the only change i know about is the nv3500 is 1/8th longer. Yes phil did get a discounted price since he bought the t-case from me as well. And just to add that shipping on this is really cheap since i can ship it in a puro-letter pack....$20US to almost anywhere! Thanx for the pic Phil I lost all mine when my putter went down.
GaJeep94YJ 03-19-2002, 07:26 AM Originally posted by Rodney YJ
Are there different lengths of output shafts on a AX15. I saw a website that said the earlier one were a diff. length then the newer ones, but on Advance adapters site is says the are all AX15 are the same output shaft length. Can someone verify this before I make plans to do a d300 swap. Mine is a 90 model.
it's not the output shaft the is different it is the input shaft that changed on the ax15. I think on the 90 it had a .590 input and a .750 on the later ones.
but to verify what you are saying I have a 1990 AX15 (94 bellhousing and clutch) and a clocking ring from novak-adapt.com and a 85 dana 300 and everything fits together perfectly.
except for the floor but that is just details.
also have currie twin stick and if you adjust them out to the furthest place it puts it right in front of the gear shifter and almost looks stock!!!
Rodney YJ 03-19-2002, 11:31 AM Thanks for the info. Gajeep94yj, I saw your jeep the weekend before last at southern offroad. How much did the dana 300 cost you and when are you going to swap front axles? Do you have an axle yet?
GaJeep94YJ 03-19-2002, 12:14 PM Originally posted by Rodney YJ
Thanks for the info. Gajeep94yj, I saw your jeep the weekend before last at southern offroad. How much did the dana 300 cost you and when are you going to swap front axles? Do you have an axle yet?
you should have came by and said hey.
the dana 300 was $75 but average price has been $150-$200
I am swapping the front axle right now. trying to get the pitman arm all figured out and have to pick up the new tires today.
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