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ChiScouter
09-30-2005, 07:41 AM
Your experiences could prove invaluable to the rest of us midwest guys who are still too scared to cross the mississippi.:)
If you were to start over and trying to keep your rig street legal what would you do different/better as far as the nuts and bolts of the buildup and finished product are concerned?
BTW thats 18 bucks of beer next time we hook up:D
Mechanos
09-30-2005, 08:16 PM
Your experiences could prove invaluable to the rest of us midwest guys who are still too scared to cross the mississippi.:)
If you were to start over and trying to keep your rig street legal what would you do different/better as far as the nuts and bolts of the buildup and finished product are concerned?
BTW thats 18 bucks of beer next time we hook up:D
Hmmm..... that's a tough one to answer. My rig is street legal here where I live and it worked quite well on the trail. I did make the wrong choice originally on rear springs.... too soft and my original rear shock set up was crap.
One thing I have found out is that my rig is too tall for the stock width axles I'm running. With the suspension it has under it, it gets too tippy too easily for my likes. With that in mind, I would either cut more sheet metal for tire clearance and lower the rig a little or swap in full width axles if I were doing it over again. Now, the full width axles may void the "street legal" aspect for some, but I can still get away with it here. Actually, that is my plan. I already have the D60 front (of course, you know that already, Chi :flipoff2: ) and a 14 bolt rear. I can definately use the additional stability.
Rock Tractor
09-30-2005, 10:45 PM
Hmmm..... that's a tough one to answer. My rig is street legal here where I live and it worked quite well on the trail. I did make the wrong choice originally on rear springs.... too soft and my original rear shock set up was crap.
One thing I have found out is that my rig is too tall for the stock width axles I'm running. With the suspension it has under it, it gets too tippy too easily for my likes. With that in mind, I would either cut more sheet metal for tire clearance and lower the rig a little or swap in full width axles if I were doing it over again. Now, the full width axles may void the "street legal" aspect for some, but I can still get away with it here. Actually, that is my plan. I already have the D60 front (of course, you know that already, Chi :flipoff2: ) and a 14 bolt rear. I can definately use the additional stability.
But even out here, all you would need is some removable mudflaps and you would be fine.
Shadow man
10-01-2005, 12:20 AM
Hmmm..... that's a tough one to answer. My rig is street legal here where I live and it worked quite well on the trail. I did make the wrong choice originally on rear springs.... too soft and my original rear shock set up was crap.
One thing I have found out is that my rig is too tall for the stock width axles I'm running. With the suspension it has under it, it gets too tippy too easily for my likes. With that in mind, I would either cut more sheet metal for tire clearance and lower the rig a little or swap in full width axles if I were doing it over again. Now, the full width axles may void the "street legal" aspect for some, but I can still get away with it here. Actually, that is my plan. I already have the D60 front (of course, you know that already, Chi :flipoff2: ) and a 14 bolt rear. I can definately use the additional stability.
I'm with you on the tall and tippy. That is why I went to allot of trouble to trim the fenders out enough in order to keep it low. I'm actually right now working on setting my drivetrain as low as I can get it. Even though I run 39" tires, I can still park my rig in a normal garage. The tallest part of my rig is just 6'10". If you cut out your fenders, these guys have the soft flairs you can use to trim up those fenders. It looks like they might even have the original SSII flairs also. About $85.00 a set of 4.
http://www.pacerperformance.com/pages/products.asp?id=2
reuben
10-01-2005, 07:07 AM
i run 44's on my scout and sit at about 81" to the highest point.
Snoopy
10-01-2005, 10:36 AM
i run 44's on my scout and sit at about 81" to the highest point.
That's 6 foot 9 inches.
Urban Wheeler
10-01-2005, 02:43 PM
One thing I have found out is that my rig is too tall for the stock width axles I'm running. With the suspension it has under it, it gets too tippy too easily for my likes.
What is the distance from frame to ground?
So you have a Dana 60/14 bolt stashed away for a possible future upgrade:cool2: Just the added weight would lower your center line an inch or two. What ideas have you toss around for rim and tire sizes for that 60/14 combo? Also is your D60 a SRW or DRW.
Pro's you get your added width for stability. Con's you can't drive around the "CON" obstacles and need to drive over them:flipoff2: .
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 07:30 PM
What is the distance from frame to ground?
I don't recall off hand, but I want to say 25". I'll have to pull a measurement tomorrow when I'm under it again.
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 07:41 PM
So you have a Dana 60/14 bolt stashed away for a possible future upgrade:cool2: Just the added weight would lower your center line an inch or two. What ideas have you toss around for rim and tire sizes for that 60/14 combo? Also is your D60 a SRW or DRW.
Pro's you get your added width for stability. Con's you can't drive around the "CON" obstacles and need to drive over them:flipoff2: .
Yes, I have a D60 DRW front and a 14 bolt (67" variety) sitting in my storage shed just waiting on me to prep them and roll them under the Scout. I also have 5 8-bolt HMMWV wheels sitting in storage. I am currently looking for a 14-bolt from a dually pick-up (72" variety). If I can find one, I'm thinking about putting SRW hubs on it increasing it's width to 76" and running the HMMWV wheels with their stock 7" of backspacing. That should put the outside of tire to outside of tire somewhere around 83"-84". Tires will most likely be 38.5 x 12.50/16.5 SX's.
TheCopperCowboy
10-01-2005, 08:36 PM
Since you're going with the 60, how much for the ARB in the 44?
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 09:12 PM
Since you're going with the 60, how much for the ARB in the 44?
Damn vultures are circling already :flipoff2: :laughing: :flipoff2:
I don't know.... haven't really thought about it. The swap to 60/14 isn't going to happen anytime soon, but I'll keep you in mind when the time comes. How much use it sees before that time will have an effect on the price.
TheCopperCowboy
10-01-2005, 09:17 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the K.C. rock garden in the winter time will have it on it's last legs. Take care of my new diff locker, buddy! :smokin:
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 09:28 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the K.C. rock garden in the winter time will have it on it's last legs. Take care of my new diff locker, buddy! :smokin:
Buddy?!?!?.... he doesn't drive the rig. :flipoff2:
I sure you have seen these spacers, but just in case here a link
http://www.southwestwheel.com/chevyconversion.htm
Cool pic of hummer rims from one of Snoopy's post:D
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 10:15 PM
I sure you have seen these spacers, but just in case here a link
http://www.southwestwheel.com/chevyconversion.htm
Cool pic of hummer rims from one of Snoopy's post:D
Ummm.... not sure where you're going with this. You lost me.
Just where to get some DRW spacers for the rear if needed and what the Hummer rims look like on DRW Dana 60's
reuben
10-01-2005, 10:30 PM
i think he was suggesting them for the rear. to widen it to match the front.
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 10:35 PM
Ahh.... with ya now. I'd really like to find a 72" 14-bolt though. I could buy two or three of them for the price of those spacers. :eek: They're pretty proud of them.
reuben
10-01-2005, 10:37 PM
Ahh.... with ya now. I'd really like to find a 72" 14-bolt though. I could buy two or three of them for the price of those spacers. :eek: They're pretty proud of them.
not to mention all the extra leverage on them.:eek:
Mechanos
10-01-2005, 10:40 PM
not to mention all the extra leverage on them.:eek:
Very true.... I don't like the idea of all the additional loads placed on the wheel bearings.
Mechanos
10-02-2005, 07:32 PM
What is the distance from frame to ground?
Distance from ground to bottom of frame is 22".
Bones
10-04-2005, 07:38 AM
Distance from ground to bottom of frame is 22".
wow that is real low! Way lower than I thought. Maybe wheeling it for 3 weeks did that :laughing: My pile was 26-27" on 40's way back when.
I need to stop by sometime to check it out and get the skinny on the trip. :beer:
Ok, being the engineering type of guy you are, can you design a device like those big telehandlers have that prevent the operator from tipping the unit over? Ok just kidding here, as I guess that Clinometer would have to be tied to the Accelorometer :eek: :laughing:
Have you made a CD of all the pictures from your trip. I took a few cool shots with your camera when you were in the Little Sluice.:D
Mechanos
10-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Actually, no, I haven't yet. But since the 'con trip was only 3 days out of a 3 week trip, I have tons and tons of pics that have nothing to do with wheeling or the 'con trip. I can pull out the 'con pictures pretty easily, but honestly, most of them seem to be of me. I do have some pics of Josh, Rueben, Mike, and Craig J., but not a ton of them. I can pull them together and see if it's worthy of a CD or maybe just a couple emails (kinda lengthy emails) might be able to handle it. I'll let you know.
JoshC
10-04-2005, 12:26 PM
I think these are the same pics for the most part, but here's the link to the thread on our site...
http://beer.thisdysfunctional.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5575
Mechanos
10-04-2005, 01:53 PM
From JoshC on the Dysfunctional board
...Super cool dude in a younger grizzley adams kinda way...
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Too fawkin' funny....
I would have to say that everyone that I met in our group was a super cool dude in his own way. Everyone was right there willing to help each other out when someone had a problem. Yeah, it was an AWESOME trip.
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