We are heading to Harlan Ky the weekend of Nov 4-6 for some good trail riding. Saturday the 5th we will be assisting the Kentucky Mountain Crawlers in clearing and cutting of a new trail.

Word is there are some nasty new trails there and this one may be the nastiest yet.

I will let Shoope1 chime in with some additional info regarding this.

Its about time you posted up... :D

Anyhow, this new trail has a bunch of logs in it. Chainsaws the most assential.(sp) A winch would work too. This trail has a really good start to a slick rock on it and will grow grow grow..

And here is the slick rock... And theirs alot of bolder rocks in the trail above this.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=209013&stc=1&d=1128569439

Here is one of the steepness of it..
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=209012&stc=1&d=1128569439

Tentatively I am planning on coming down the 4th and 5th, The 4th we will be riding ATV's since my new rig is nowhere even close to ready and we will be bringing down a couple of chainsaws to lend a hand with clearing some trails on the 5th w/ the KYMC who I just paid my first business member dues to last week (and still have not heard anything back from them :rolleyes: ). Again if anyone needs parts we can bring it w/ us I know this helped save a bundle on shipping last go around. :D Shawn

We are planning a trip down that weekend also. We will have some people with us with quads also.

I am planning on staying at the Holiday Inn on Friday night. Let me know maybe we can do some trail riding.


We are planning a trip down that weekend also. We will have some people with us with quads also.

We got your money (paypal) I will pm you with some details.
Glad to see a good group showing up.


That new trail today was totally awesome.
Our club is talking about setting up the Jim's Grille and having a good cookout.
Location to be determined.

hey shoope, whats the deal on the new campground? projected opening? Greatlake, we will be camping out in the park look for an orange buggy with cruiser hood and a big ugly yellow yj thing. its the one that appears to be lady driven:flipoff2:

hey shoope, whats the deal on the new campground? projected opening? Greatlake, we will be camping out in the park look for an orange buggy with cruiser hood and a big ugly yellow yj thing. its the one that appears to be lady driven:flipoff2:

The campground is open. Its off of HWY 119(about 9 miles our of Harlan). The are working on a small rustic cabin and a shower house as we speak.

The only thing that is in bad need is the road into the park is steep and has several switchbacks. I don't recommend using this road when it is wet, atleast not until we get to do some serious road work. We will get it done just not sure when.
The new entrance dumps into the park at the "Middle Fork Playground".
The trail numbers is 45 and 46.

Whats her name Jody?

hey shoope, whats the deal on the new campground? projected opening? Greatlake, we will be camping out in the park look for an orange buggy with cruiser hood and a big ugly yellow yj thing. its the one that appears to be lady driven:flipoff2:

Depending on how many we bring we may camp out, although a hot shower would be nice at the end of the day. I will most likely bring my black PSD on 35's and a small enclosed trailer withour badges on it, can't miss it. Its a 14' moving bill board:D

Did you get me a price on that DOM?

Not sure where we will camp yet. I do think as a club we will be bringing the big grille.

what were the two sizes again? 50 pieces of each correct? Let me know and I'll drop my sales rep a call. Thanks Shawn

1 3/4 .120 wall
1 1/2 .120 wall

We may get more...

I'm working on this quote, I will also definitely be there the 4th & 5th. Thanks Shawn


1 3/4 .120 wall
1 1/2 .120 wall

We may get more...

I am thinking about heading down that weekend myself. I want to see the slick rock trail open. Damnation is awsome and the slickrock trail looks just as good. I will post up when I know for sure. coming from southern Michigan.

Will you be camping with the rest of us?

I'm leaving early Fri morning if you would want to roll with us that wouldn't be an issue as we're taking 75 down. Let me know. Thanks Shawn

I am thinking about heading down that weekend myself. I want to see the slick rock trail open. Damnation is awsome and the slickrock trail looks just as good. I will post up when I know for sure. coming from southern Michigan.

Shoope got that propane guys #?

Shoope got that propane guys #?


I'll try and get it tonight.

Thanks for the hook up there, crazy but that guy bought covers off of me back in the spring. Now I'm buying pane guzzling equipement from him, at a killer price to boot. Thanks again, I'll send over the tube quote on Monday when I get back to the office. Thanks Shawn

Is he going to ship it.

I've got a buddy that is going to grey rock with him in a few weeks.
He could bring it back to Harlan.

Yeah, I'm sending him a check and he's going to ship the stuff via my UPS account. He wasn't sure if he was going to be in Harlan. But if I could just pick it up down there over the 4th and 5th that would be great if you could get it arranged? Let me know. Thanks again, Shawn

I'm working on this quote, I will also definitely be there the 4th & 5th. Thanks Shawn
Hey Shawn You wound'nt Happen to have a 8 foot section of 1.50/ 2.50 wall dom you wound sell me? I need to make 2 lower links and dont want to buy a whole stick .

I'l have to look in the morning, I think all I have left in DOM is some small stuff .875 od 3/16 wall and some larger like 2-2.5" 3/8" or 1/2" WA I'm due to buy some more here next month but have been putting it off since steel is going up as of late due to the service centers running record lows on inventory last month. I have some 1.5" in EWHR but I think it is only like 1/8" or 3/16" WA

I have 2 sticks 10'ers of 1.5" 3/8" WA DOM, I can sell one, I need the other for my stinger on my own buggy. Kinda thick for most apps but let me know. Thanks Shawn

Ronnie, looks like I will be coming down on the 5th. Should have some stuff out of the shop by then.

Man this is looking like a decent size group. I am still pushing to come hopefully I can make it. Who all are bringing rigs? I will probably hotel it but we will see. Is anyone wheeling on friday? hey thanks for the offer great lakes if I come and leave on friday I will look you up. I would like to leave thursday night.

several of us plan to wheel friday. Look for an orange buggy and a big yeller YJ TRUGGY. WE'LL BE ROLLIN IN Friday morining. dave

Dont' you back out now Brent!

Awesome Travis.

It'll only be a couple of hours past midnight! :smokin:


Man this is looking like a decent size group. I am still pushing to come hopefully I can make it. Who all are bringing rigs? I will probably hotel it but we will see. Is anyone wheeling on friday? hey thanks for the offer great lakes if I come and leave on friday I will look you up. I would like to leave thursday night.

Shoope I got a scary looking quote for ya we need to talk.

I bet..!

Its not a matter of backing out its a matter of making the dates work but you know me I am trying. If I make it I will be in a green buggy with a ranger hood. I have got to see that slick rock trail open and I want to see some people run damnation.

Its not a matter of backing out its a matter of making the dates work but you know me I am trying. If I make it I will be in a green buggy with a ranger hood. I have got to see that slick rock trail open and I want to see some people run damnation.


How is it looking for Jim and the other ranger hooded buggy?
does he still have the chassis?

I'll be bringing my beater to see how it works on the new stuff.

Beater?

CJ5 or buggy?

I think Jim is coming next weekend with his club so he probably will not be coming on the 4th. Dale the other ranger buggy will probably be coming with me.

I think Jim is coming next weekend with his club so he probably will not be coming on the 4th. Dale the other ranger buggy will probably be coming with me.

did you talk with him tonight after me and him talked.
He was going to see if he could move the weekend up till this one.
The weekend they have planned is my anniver. (6 years)

I'm impressed, you got someone to stay married to you for six whole years. :) I'm only at three as of yesterday and six seems a long time away after yesterday bru ha ha

Ronnie, I'll be bringing the buggy. I took the 5 to Slade for labor day and had a blast but I'm not wasting a trip down there with the 5. I want to play on some of this new stuff.

I think I will try to ride up Saturday morning as long as I get my motor back together this weekend. Hopefully it won't crap out on me again :D

I think I will try to ride up Saturday morning as long as I get my motor back together this weekend. Hopefully it won't crap out on me again :D


What was wrong with it BJack?

Have your buddy come back with that wicked buggy.

Timing chain

He will

If Travis can finish mine I'd be up for it!:grinpimp: any luck on getting that pig weighed yet Travis?

I haven't heard back from the guy with the scales yet. I'm not going to Columbus this weekend so hopefully I can catch up with him.

Ronnie, check your pm.

I have not talked to Jim so mabey he is changing his dates. congrats on the anniv. I just passed 9 years myself.

Shoope, Definitely be there the 4th AM early, staying at the Holiday in Harlan. My one close friend had to back out today as work issues came up. I may be hauling down some quads for several of my friends this go around. Do I need to contact anyone for them for camping sites? And do any of them have elec hook ups yet? They had not decided where they were staying yet (camping or hotel). Let me know so I can get them the info. Will be bringing down my saw for the 5th to help out. Thanks Shawn

Gary in our club has 2 full hook ups.
606-273-1674

Just to let you guys know,
we are going to try and meet up at the coyote camp ground on the park around 10AM Saturday morning.

I think for saturday evening dinner we are gonna have Chili and some Potato salad.

Where is coyote campground? Sorry missed that place the last time I was there. Quick someone hit me over the head and put me out of my misery.

This is the same place we did the raffles....
get a map... I have them too.

Ronnie, looks like me and my wife are gonna come down on sat morning. I will bring the saw, what else you need? What do I need to be a business sponsor? So the road into the park on the Evarts side is worse now? I plan on trailering up to the Coyote and meeting you guys and camping there with you guys that night. Is Josh coming and riding the "whiney" IH buggy?

Ronnie, I talked to Terry last night. He was going to try to get Larry and Doyle to come also. Looks like I'll leave friday afternoon.

I'm assuming they are selling updated maps now where can I purchase one early Friday morning? The gas station conveninece store in Evarts I assume? Thanks Shawn

This is the same place we did the raffles....
get a map... I have them too.

Looks like there will be a good turn out I hope to put some names with faces. Shawn

I had a couple of more guys call me last night that want to go. I dont know how much they are going to work. (first time there) But at least there are more people coming. I will be ready to work on sat. Cant wait to meet everybody. Brent

Ronnie, looks like me and my wife are gonna come down on sat morning. I will bring the saw, what else you need? What do I need to be a business sponsor? So the road into the park on the Evarts side is worse now? I plan on trailering up to the Coyote and meeting you guys and camping there with you guys that night. Is Josh coming and riding the "whiney" IH buggy?

chain saw is enough. Gloves and eye wear.. :D

The road going in from Evarts isn't bad..
The road from Putney campground is rough right now. But will be fixed soon.


Ronnie, I talked to Terry last night. He was going to try to get Larry and Doyle to come also. Looks like I'll leave friday afternoon.

Kewl... This weekend is getting big.


I'm assuming they are selling updated maps now where can I purchase one early Friday morning? The gas station conveninece store in Evarts I assume? Thanks Shawn


I have some maps but they want have the new stuff on them.
We had like 20 truck maps printed so it will take some time to use all them up.

ronnie, looks like we will have 5 rigs in our group, plus a couple of friends with dirt bikes. We'll see you sat AM at 10.00 dave

Hey Ronnie. Can we still get our tow rigs and trailers to coyote campground? We all have 4wd.

Yes you can. I'd say it will be full up there... so that spot where we set up our club tent at the raffle will be a good spot too. To park that is.

Yes you can. I'd say it will be full up there... so that spot where we set up our club tent at the raffle will be a good spot too. To park that is.

Hey Ronnie. Can we still get our tow rigs and trailers to coyote campground? We all have 4wd.

Yes you can. I'd say it will be full up there... so that spot where we set up our club tent at the raffle will be a good spot too. To park that is.

Shoope, I might try and make it up there if ya'll have room for another. Now that the WEROCK comp season is over, I'm ready to get back to some trail riding and I've heard some great things about Harlan. So, is the plan to ride Friday and do trail work Saturday?

I would probably camp. Have an enclosed trailer (with Kegerater) :grinpimp: .

Sean, may want to get you to bring a 14b pinon guard for me.... I've got a CJ8 winter project that could use one of those.

Butch, looking forward to meeting you as well.... the axles kick ass!

Let me know $55 and I'll bring it along. Thanks Shawn

Doc, it would be cool to have you! I met you at Crawfords the 1st weekend you had the new buggy.My girlfriend got all drunk in your trailer:shaking: You'll love the place, Its awesome! You're welcome to ride with us on Friday if you'd like, we're going to show Crawford around the park. Sounds like the campground is gonna be packed! Sean, you got any 17" beadlock kits right now?

Shoope, I might try and make it up there if ya'll have room for another. Now that the WEROCK comp season is over, I'm ready to get back to some trail riding and I've heard some great things about Harlan. So, is the plan to ride Friday and do trail work Saturday?

I would probably camp. Have an enclosed trailer (with Kegerater) :grinpimp: .

Sean, may want to get you to bring a 14b pinon guard for me.... I've got a CJ8 winter project that could use one of those.

Butch, looking forward to meeting you as well.... the axles kick ass!

Awesome man...

Give me a call and I will hook you up with more details.

606-573-5986

I will be there for sure sat morning, dont know if I will stay or not. I would really like to, we will see how things work out.

Doc, it would be cool to have you! I met you at Crawfords the 1st weekend you had the new buggy.My girlfriend got all drunk in your trailer:shaking: You'll love the place, Its awesome! You're welcome to ride with us on Friday if you'd like, we're going to show Crawford around the park. Sounds like the campground is gonna be packed! Sean, you got any 17" beadlock kits right now?

Cool, yea I remember ya'll.... looking forward to it. Harlan sounds like a great place to ride. I'll try and get up there early to tag along with ya'll on Friday.

Doc, it would be cool to have you! I met you at Crawfords the 1st weekend you had the new buggy.My girlfriend got all drunk in your trailer:shaking: You'll love the place, Its awesome! You're welcome to ride with us on Friday if you'd like, we're going to show Crawford around the park. Sounds like the campground is gonna be packed! Sean, you got any 17" beadlock kits right now?


Going through these kits pretty fast as of late, Let me know by this weekend and I'll be sure to bring whatever you need the following weekend $50 per wheel and free shipping to Harlan, KY:grinpimp: Thanks Shawn

Shoope I checked today all I have is that 1 10' chunk if you want it to trade on. Thanks Shawn

Shoope I checked today all I have is that 1 10' chunk if you want it to trade on. Thanks Shawn

I'd trade you.. Even

Sounds good I'll throw it in the trailer. Thanks Shawn


I'd trade you.. Even

so who all is wheeling on friday. looks like there are just 2 of us right now. both in buggys with bad drivers.:D Also if anybody is looking for a chassis we have one we would bring down. my buddy says he would take 1500 for it. Looks just like the one in the pics on the damnaton trail.

we're wheelin om friday looks like5 rigs. pretty built, probably go out to mason jar etc.

we're wheelin om friday looks like5 rigs. pretty built, probably go out to mason jar etc.

Your first stop ought to be Damnation!

I'll be in there on Friday to watch only :(

we're wheelin om friday looks like5 rigs. pretty built, probably go out to mason jar etc.

Your first stop ought to be Damnation!
Hey Ronnie what trail . is Damnation on?

Sunny and highs in the lower 70's on Fri & Sat low in the low 50's At least that's what the wheather man is calling for at this point.

damnation is right above lower rock garden. you have to go up the big hill that is off the road to the right coming up to lower rock garden. when you get up the hill take a left and run the ridge until you see another steep downhill to left. this is damnation. if you stay on it to the end it will come out on the road right after lower rock garden.

that weather sound awsome. ronnie are you wheeling friday?

damnation is right above lower rock garden. you have to go up the big hill that is off the road to the right coming up to lower rock garden. when you get up the hill take a left and run the ridge until you see another steep downhill to left. this is damnation. if you stay on it to the end it will come out on the road right after lower rock garden.

that weather sound awsome. ronnie are you wheeling friday?

I hope I can get off of work... not sure untll mid week.

To add to Brents post, Go up trail 11 and take the next left.(17)
then take the very next left. the down hill he is talking about is totally optional for the week hearted.

Looks like we will have a great group here. so we need to split up.
I think the new trail will be our main objective but lets open up a couple of lines in the Middle Rock Garden.(trail 23)

Ronnie your in charge we're just the mindless peons manning the large power tools :)

the down hill he is talking about is totally optional for the week hearted.(trail 23)


it is the only way to get to lower damnation (where all the fun is)

I twisted my rear driveshaft this weekend playing on a trail here behind the shop. Hopefully tomorrow I can get it off and fixed. I have to deliever a buggy friday on my way down so I doubt I will be able to make it in time to wheel friday.

Guys i have to confess the days are dragging at this point as I'm dying to get back down here. :)

I twisted my rear driveshaft this weekend playing on a trail here behind the shop. Hopefully tomorrow I can get it off and fixed. I have to deliever a buggy friday on my way down so I doubt I will be able to make it in time to wheel friday.
thats ok travis,
we will still be there saturday
weld the junk up and come on
How many times you gonna use the driveshaft excuse

thats ok travis,
we will still be there saturday
weld the junk up and come on
How many times you gonna use the driveshaft excuse

Is Divak coming with you guys. And how many in your group?

Is Divak coming with you guys. And how many in your group?
I dont know if Tom is going to make it this time He's in love again:laughing: Ronnie I dont know how many for sure but at least five rigs.

great. where you guys staying..
at one of the house in Evarts? Camping? or?

great. where you guys staying..
at one of the house in Evarts? Camping? or?
Mountin aire. or how every you spell it. Some of us will be down early afternoon Friday.

I may hang out there Friday night some.

I have a room at the inn. We will be heading over to the new mexican place for dinner friday night. We may even do some night wheeling.

Just in case someone can get some flavored shine
i would take 4 quarts
at least 1 but would like 4
strawberry , peach don't matter
how bout it ?

Fab.. call me I may can get you a contact for it.

Guys i have to confess the days are dragging at this point as I'm dying to get back down here. :)

a friend wants you to bring down a 14bolt disk brake kit.

Also looks like I want be able to get off of work Friday. Man I'm pissed. Oh well I need to make the best of Saturday and Sunday.


Ken, Grant, and Jim should be around Friday for people.

If anyone needs me tomorrow night call me.... I hope to get my 4runner fixed and running tomrrow night. 606-573-5986

Will do. Thanks Shawn

Looks like I'm out. It's friday night and my rig isn't running right. Have fun.

man that sucks.

Had a few guys here looking for you...

next time ...

How did the trail opening go? I worked on the rig till about 8 on friday night, I'm pretty sure it injector problems. I can prime it and it will start, sometimes it quits as soon as the gas I used to prime it is gone and sometime it will run for 15 minutes before it dies. I'm gonna have my injection unit looked at this week.

Post up some pics of the trails.

Sorry I couldn't make it out to join ya'll. Some things came up with work and I had to go out of town. Hope to get to Harlan some time in the near future.

the trail; opening turned out really well. 10 or 11 of us opened up the new trail in about 3 hours. Its NASTY! Huge thanks to everybody who showed up to help, it was awesome to see so many people work together to get it opened up! And of course huge thanks to shoope and the Ky krawlers for getting this place going(and the chili). Its going to be THE spot on the east coast in another year or 2. It was great to meet people and put faces with names. Hope everyone had a good day wheelin today and made it home safe. I Guess we need to tear into mine and see what the hell went wrong! Pics to come....dave

the trail; opening turned out really well. 10 or 11 of us opened up the new trail in about 3 hours. Its NASTY! Huge thanks to everybody who showed up to help, it was awesome to see so many people work together to get it opened up! And of course huge thanks to shoope and the Ky krawlers for getting this place going(and the chili). Its going to be THE spot on the east coast in another year or 2. It was great to meet people and put faces with names. Hope everyone had a good day wheelin today and made it home safe. I Guess we need to tear into mine and see what the hell went wrong! Pics to come....dave

What did the name end up for that trail?
Just for Ref.. we are Ky. Mtn Crawlers.. :shaking: :D

What about the crazy nut climbing Cream Puff dark 30.
Then a buddy of his followed him up and climbed it as well.

Their also was another trail opened up off of the Damnation Trail.
Another super tough hill climb.

Here's some pics...I love Harlan!
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come on now im not crazy (just stupid)

what a great way to finish off an awsome weekend. The new trail is gonna eat some rigs. everybody did a great job on working the trails and I want to thank harlan county for giving us this great place to ride and shoope for keeping it progressing into one of the best parks of the east coast. oh yeah and thanks to jim (crazy bulldozer man) for the chili it was great.

Brent

Yeah the new trail is Naaasssstttyy! And it got nastier as the day went on. I cant wait to see it after a few good rains, and some more people taking it on. And a big thanks goes out to all of the KY Mnt Krawlers for having us and working there ass off to make this park a success. And the chili was worth the drive down. And we had some pretty good B-day cake also, didnt we Dave?..........Butch

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yeah, the cake alone was worth the drive.....

I only heard a little rumor about the cake. where are the pics???

yes the cake was awesome. awesome throttle on cream puff. butch had a great time meetin ya and everyone else this weekend. to all the guys workin and runnin the park great job

Looks like a sick trail!!! I can't wait to get back down there.

I hate that I missed it. Looks like fun.

Hey guys, Just wanted to chime in on this. BTW, SHOOPE IS A PIMP!!!! Now that being said..... I had a blast this past weekend. Saw a bunch of people I haven't seen in a while, met some new faces as well. Chilli was GREAT (thanks Jim) Beer was cold and the Whiskey was smooth (thanks Steve). New trails are TOUGH. Didn't even make it a quarter the way up either one. Trails are great here in Harlan ( I am biased though, I live here) but the response we are getting from all around the East (and West) is great. Come to Harlan and ride I guarantee you wont be dissapointed.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4713229#post4713229

here is a thread started to name the new trail.

I had a great time last weekend with the Ky crew. I can speak for Steve Crawford and say that the park has so much potential to be the premier park in the eastern U.S.

The new trail that my crowd cut is amazing. Picture the ledges like Schoolbus at Tellico, th erocks of Lower 2, the steepness of Upper 2, all with water, mud and moss covered rocks.

Ronnie, thanks for all you do to allow us a new place to wheel. We will be back and soon...