I know it ain't nothing you've never seen before but here you go.

First pic is a shot of where the drag link ties into the tie-rod. The links are .375 wall DOM, with Ford 1-Ton TRE's. With the big-arse TRE's and my 4" BS wheels I have to run 1/4" spacers for the setup to clear with 15x8 wheels and 12.5" tires. I'll probably go to 3.5" BS Bart Wheels down the road, but I've got to be careful, I'm at 78" wide from outside of tire to outside of tire. Got to stay under 80" for CalRocs :D

Bent and Twisted makes the setup, give them a call if you want the same.
http://bentandtwisted.com

Next is a shot from the pass side. The clearance between the link and the oil pan has me a little concerned. Time for bump stops.

Last one from the drivers side. I'll post a set at the BB also as there has been a lot of interest in hi-steer.

BTW that is a Heep GW pitman arm, I had to hack a little off the top of TRE stud to clear the frame.

Originally posted by jdjanda
Last one from the drivers side. I'll post a set at the BB also as there has been a lot of interest in hi-steer.

BTW that is a Heep GW pitman arm, I had to hack a little off the top of TRE stud to clear the frame.

Looks like just the thing I need - I WANT to cut the end of the TRE off to get it to clear the frame.. so I stop using the draglink as a bump stop. :D


Next is a shot from the pass side. The clearance between the link and the oil pan has me a little concerned. Time for bump stops.


Looks like it'd hit near the front of the pan.. but.. imagine how much farther inboard the tie-rod is when you have the tires turned, too.

Originally posted by tsm1mt


Looks like just the thing I need - I WANT to cut the end of the TRE off to get it to clear the frame.. so I stop using the draglink as a bump stop. :D

I don't plan to fly my Scout through the air, so I might be safe. But if I ever do decide to fly it I'll give you a call for pointers. :p

Originally posted by jdjanda


I don't plan to fly my Scout through the air, so I might be safe. But if I ever do decide to fly it I'll give you a call for pointers. :p

:D I'll help ya out, don't worry!

I also hit the pitman/draglink on the ramp, too.. it's not *just* a flying-through-the-air kinda thing.

Of course, a little deflection of the draglink while on the ramp is one thing.. that same deflection when you come down off a jump is a whole 'nother thing..

I have to tighten the steering box bolts after each weekend. :D Really need to go get a 78/79 Bronco pitman arm to try..

So the one TRE has a long shank and a taper hole for the draglink. Seems like i remember Chevy doing this as well.

cal rocs is 80 max? no wonder all of thoes axles looked like they were cut down.....

Is that a rebuilt Steering box? looks perty...;)

Seriously Good work, looks really clean, hopefullmy mine will look as nice and work as well :beer:
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FYI For those who don't know. That looks just like a chevy TRE with the hole in it. But a chevy's hole was for the steering stabalizer shock mount. So that MAY be a chevy TRE but it was reemed out from factory specs if it was. Pretty common modification. Well it's what I did for crossover with my Coil Spring conversion.

OOPS My mistake, it looks like there was a NEW hold reemed out for the TRE, since I think I can see a second hole origionally for a Steering stabalizer......SORRY:cow:

Hey jdjanda, Could I get you to take another picture like that first one, but with the steering turned all the way to the drivers side (Your 'left'; while in the vehicle. or your 'right' while facing the front of the vehicle). I would appreciate it.

Originally posted by Tony Sobrito
cal rocs is 80 max? no wonder all of thoes axles looked like they were cut down.....

No not I'm not full-width, which should be around 86 inches:question: I'm in-between Scout II width and Chevy/Ford full-width. The axles are a rear T-all 60-2 at 63.5 inches WMS to WMS, and front IH truck axle at 64.5 WMS to WMS. I'm right at 78 inches from the outside of the wheels, might have to grease the tires to fit the 80 inches for Cal-Rocs.

Joe

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Is that a rebuilt Steering box? looks perty...;)


The box is a re-rebuilt unit, the PO installed it right before I bought it, I cooked the seals and had to install new seals and a cooler for the power steering fluid. BTW, the shaft was scored and should have not been reused for a rebuild, but I can't say for sure if the shaft was scored when I cooked the seals, or if the seals started leaking because the shaft was scored.

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Seriously Good work, looks really clean, hopefullmy mine will look as nice and work as well :beer:



Thanks....


Originally posted by Cliffhanger
FYI For those who don't know. That looks just like a chevy TRE with the hole in it. But a chevy's hole was for the steering stabilizer shock mount. So that MAY be a chevy TRE but it was reamed out from factory specs if it was. Pretty common modification. Well it's what I did for crossover with my Coil Spring conversion.

I still had to ream the hole for the large TRE, one because it was too small, and also because the taper was on the other side. But as far as I know all the TRE's are for a Ford.

Joe

Originally posted by jdjanda


No not I'm not full-width, which should be around 86 inches:question: I'm in-between Scout II width and Chevy/Ford full-width. The axles are a rear T-all 60-2 at 63.5 inches WMS to WMS, and front IH truck axle at 64.5 WMS to WMS. I'm right at 78 inches from the outside of the wheels, might have to grease the tires to fit the 80 inches for Cal-Rocs.

Joe

If you're wider than 80 inches you just can't compete, or you can't fit between the gates? :D

If you're at 78".. no way "Little Devil"'d fit. Unless I ran some 38x11 Boggers.. ( :idea: hmm.. no, stop it!)

But could you still run and just blow all the gates and have fun? :D

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Hey jdjanda, Could I get you to take another picture like that first one, but with the steering turned all the way to the drivers side (Your 'left'; while in the vehicle. or your 'right' while facing the front of the vehicle). I would appreciate it.

I'll see what I can turn out, give me a couple of days.

Joe

Originally posted by jdjanda


I'll see what I can turn out, give me a couple of days.

Joe

SWEET!!

http://www.calrocs.com/rules.html

Vehicle Requirements per Classification

Modified Stock

Axles
All Axles of a OEM design. No overall axle width, including tires and wheels may exceed 80"(outside of tire to outside of tire). Wheel base of the vehicle must be within 2.5" of OEM. (no gray area allowed)

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Bummer.. fortunately, I don't feel like towing that far anyways! Harumph. :D

Just for kicks I might have to break out the tape measure.. all I need to do is measure how wide my trailer deck is.. with the stock 235/75s on it, it just fits... :D

Uhhhh what did you say ben?????:confused:

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Uhhhh what did you say ben?????:confused:

If you're over 80" wide, you don't compete at CalROCS.

stock SIIs are 70" wide on the body.

You can stick out 5" on either side and still squeek by..

If you are over 80" you cannot compete in modified stock. You can compete in pro-modified or Open/Unlimited. There are other limitations also, for example modified stock is 35" tires max.

Originally posted by Ben W
If you are over 80" you cannot compete in modified stock. You can compete in pro-modified or Open/Unlimited. There are other limitations also, for example modified stock is 35" tires max.

:( :(


there goes the though of 37" MT/R's.... or wait..... TWO sets of tires....



sponser's anyone??? :D

Originally posted by Ben W
If you are over 80" you cannot compete in modified stock. You can compete in pro-modified or Open/Unlimited. There are other limitations also, for example modified stock is 35" tires max.

Yup, I'm trying to keep the rig legal for modified stock class. How bout sponsors for me, planning to run both events this year in Mod Stock.

I still need the cage, and to swap the manual tranny prior to the Reno event.

Joe

Originally posted by tsm1mt


If you're over 80" wide, you don't compete at CalROCS.

stock SIIs are 70" wide on the body.

You can stick out 5" on either side and still squeek by..

My FW racer would JUST squeek by.. 79" outside to outside with the 10-15LT tires up front.. the rear Terras might be just a little wider.

of course, I'd change to something a good deal taller.. like the 36" TSLs off the trail rig..

Good to know I can get it narrow enough if I need to. :)

Ok I will jump in on this.

I run a scout axle on mine and ben made my arms with a bit of an inward twist to clear the 4. back spaced wheels.

I later upgraded to a 3.5 back spaced rim and I have tons of clearence. I did find with the CJ the stock waggy pitman arm hit the tierod on flex.

Theres pictures here

http://wheelingpiazzas.com/pictures/Hy%20Steer/

There on the large size,