: How "undesierable" are these axles


JaketheStomper
10-09-2005, 05:57 PM
Ok so for the price of a #9 at mcdonalds i am now the proud owner of a dana 60 and corporate 14 bolt matching set. But there is always a catch. As far as i can tell the 14 bolt is 9.5 sf instead of the 10.5 ff and the dana 60 seems to be balljoint not kingpin. Set up is a 383 stroker sm465 d300 turning 42's What about these axles makes them "undeseriable and are they still useable. Also can the 60 be beefed up even though it is balljoint ie stronger balljoints or such or can it be converted to kingpin? Same goes for the 14 can it be converted to a ff? Thanks ahead of time.

trkklr77
10-09-2005, 06:13 PM
no they cant be converted. what side diff is the front? it is a interesting colledtion of parts.

rockdiseased
10-09-2005, 06:13 PM
The 9.5" 14 bolt is a completely different axle than a 10.5", different housing, center section and outers. 10.5" 14ff are way too common to screw with that 9.5", $50 and a trip to a pick n pull and you can have one of your very own.

The 60, in my opinion isn't too bad an acquisition. The ball joints aren't likely to hold up to the horsepower and tires that you got. The good news is that stock ford kingpins are too weak as well, leaving only the Chevy D60 being considered good enough.
But some parts from Crane and you can setup the outers for bulletproof action.

good luck!

JaketheStomper
10-09-2005, 07:32 PM
the d60 is a pass drop so it is good, and what parts from crane would i need and how much do they run, i was under the impression that all ford axels suck. So therefore i could keep the balljoints with some crane upgrades? You think i can get any money at the junk yard for my 9.5 ?

JaketheStomper
10-09-2005, 07:47 PM
Ok always search before asking right, well i found the rest of the dana 60 article with the crane high clearence knuckles write up, which uses kingpins. So i just want to make sure i have this right, that knuckle will work no matter what i start with kingpin/balljoint. SO therefore by usig that knuckle i have more strength i can use the kingpin and it is set up for ultimate hi-steer? I am correct in all of this right?

BildoStyle
10-09-2005, 07:48 PM
You think i can get any money at the junk yard for my 9.5 ?

maybe its worth in weight... so like $35 a ton for unprepared steel.

thats about 6 bucks.

trkklr77
10-09-2005, 08:01 PM
hey bud you got some mixed info going here.

b/j 60 are not pside diffs, so it either a d44/10b or you have a kp d60 and just dont relize it, unless its a costom bastard axle..

what side is the tcase?

any after market d60 outer parts are way more expensive than buying the correct axle.

not all ford axles suck, they are good for sas jobs.

i doubt youll get more than the core charge for the 9.5, if theyll even do that for a different axle.[i know most wont know the difference but i could see it happen]

JaketheStomper
10-09-2005, 08:11 PM
ok well im looking at the pics again and now im not sure what kind of axel it is it doesnt look like a 44 or a 10b or a 60 or any other axel. I have some pics can anyone i email them to someone so they can put them on the board. The tcase is a d300 pass drop. and those cranes were only 460 thats cheaper that a d60. Let me know about posting pics

XJ_ranger
10-09-2005, 08:11 PM
Ok always search before asking right, well i found the rest of the dana 60 article with the crane high clearence knuckles write up, which uses kingpins. So i just want to make sure i have this right, that knuckle will work no matter what i start with kingpin/balljoint. SO therefore by usig that knuckle i have more strength i can use the kingpin and it is set up for ultimate hi-steer? I am correct in all of this right?

if you are talking about cutting off the inner knuckle and replacing that with an aftermarket unit and using their outer knuckle as well - then yes...

trkklr77
10-09-2005, 08:17 PM
ok well im looking at the pics again and now im not sure what kind of axel it is it doesnt look like a 44 or a 10b or a 60 or any other axel. I have some pics can anyone i email them to someone so they can put them on the board. The tcase is a d300 pass drop. and those cranes were only 460 thats cheaper that a d60. Let me know about posting pics


send them to my email i post them up.

i dont know where you got 460 from, but the bj d44 stuff is 180 a knuckle and 135 a inner c. the d60 stuff is 345 for knuckleS and 275 inner cS. that 635/620 not including shipping, and that still doesnt get them mounted,$$$$$$

JaketheStomper
10-09-2005, 08:36 PM
pm sent also u can look here http://www.geocities.com/kaseymyrickphotography/axel2.jpg

trkklr77
10-09-2005, 09:05 PM
that is NOT a d60[i saw it before the link failed]

it looks like a 10b but the pic is distorted and shitty. the guy you got this from was pulling your 4.99 out of your pocket faster than you could second guess what you were getting.



earlier i said they cant be converted, i shoud have said its not worth it. you can beef it up. ive been told that 30spline d60 stuff will fit the 30 spline d44 and 88-92 10bolt. so if your very serious about dropping the money you can do d60 axle shafts to crane knuckles to stock or a/m d60 outer parts. it will be very expensive but youll have a mildly stong axle with better ground clearance.

JaketheStomper
10-09-2005, 09:15 PM
from what i was looking at before it was going to be 1200 for axel shafts and ctm's. This cost applys to both the dana 60 and now this supposed 10b. now another 460 for the crane outer knuckles not counting inners and then stock outer parts, which i am assuming would end up costing me around a grand all said and done. So it would be cheaper for me to just go to a pay n pull and get a matched set of 14 bb ff and a dana 60 kingpin instead of all this extra fab and hassle correct?

trkklr77
10-09-2005, 09:31 PM
1200-1500 is a very good posibilty. big junk yard with set prices and usally charge the same for a d60 as a d44 so you can score a good deal on a d60 if your willing to work for it. there are a lot of sets for sale on the pbb now for the going rate of 1500, most are 83-87 cucv with 4.56's and rear locker.


saw the new link, the rear is NOT a 14ff, so its the 9.5 or even a 12/10b hard to tell from the pics.