: Ram mounting to draglink?


Butch
03-15-2002, 07:24 PM
Did the search thing but did not find a definate answer. Anybody running their hydro cylinder to the drag link instead of the tie rod? If so do you have any ill effects. It will be working a D60 with 38" TSL's with avalanche hi steer arms K-5 Blazer.:confused:

Keith
03-15-2002, 07:43 PM
I'll effect may be the sector shaft or the bearing. You can be a :rainbow: like NE Roktoy and Dippstick, or you can be like hundreds of less faggy and smarter people and mount it the right way.:D

Butch
03-15-2002, 08:42 PM
Main problem is I have completely ran out of room in there. I think I am going to end up with my tie rod in the stock position until after EJS when I have more time and patience to Fawk with it.

BadDog
03-15-2002, 09:02 PM
Did you look at Steve Fox's (CK5) new setup for assist on high steer? That would be one option. However, like you, I'm probably going to leave it in the stock location and build a heavy MOFO sleeved "rock rod" with the ram right behind and above it. That's probably just as good (for all practical purposes) but lots easier. But, just in case, I got the Avalanche arm so I have the option. If I bend (or otherwise damage) the tie rod down low, I’ll go to high steer and figure out something then (probably like Steve). Still haven't decided for sure but, tonight, that's how I'm leaning... Who knows what I’ll do next week when I actually put it together...

BadDog
03-15-2002, 09:08 PM
BTW, as I said (reply to your post on CK5), I still would be concerned about routing all the force through the passenger side knuckle. A couple of guys on here have broken those D60 knuckles and I don't think they were pushing a ram assist through the drag link to do it (could be wrong, don't recall the specifics). These rigs are heavy, you have relatively large tires, and the assist will give you enough power to push the truck sideways by turning the tires against stationary objects. That would really worry me but, I’m paranoid and I hate braking stuff (especially a D60 knuckle!)...

NE-RokToy
03-15-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Keith
I'll effect may be the sector shaft or the bearing. You can be a :rainbow: like NE Roktoy and Dippstick, or you can be like hundreds of less faggy and smarter people and mount it the right way.:D

Don't you have some paint to wax or something???

Yes mounting to the draglink has problems, as ANYTHING does. Ideally you want to go to the axle tube and tierod, this directs all the force directly into the steering where with a suspension with no track bar and a draglink mounted ram would try to push the axle around instead of turn the wheels in tough situations. IF you can't get to the tierod the next best way is to go to the pitman arm, has some of the same side effects of the draglink but doesnt have angular changes like the draglink. Oh yeah if you snap a sector shaft with this setup I'm guesssing you had the ram plumbed in reverse :flipoff2:

If this doesnt make sense its late and I've been playing drinking games :barf:

Keith
03-18-2002, 09:19 PM
AHHHHH, touche ROK!:flipoff2:

3/4tonYJ
03-19-2002, 03:32 AM
of course all the force will be on one tierod/arm/knuckle instead of split between two.......
i was also thinking where are you planning on mounting the other end of your ram? if the frame is your idea, i think this is a bad idea,..........when the ram moves it will try to shift your axle under frame (left/right) just as hard as it trys to turn the wheel........

Butch
03-19-2002, 06:48 AM
Well with heavy doses of cussing, busted knuckles and grease I have managed to mount it to the tierod after all. Only problem is I am only going to get a 4 inch throw on the ram which makes it only 50% effective, but that is 50% better than it was before. Thanks for all the input:smokin:

pcorssmit
03-19-2002, 01:45 PM
I just mounted a 2 x 8 ram to my axle and drag link the other day, the centerline of the ram is about 1 - 1.5" above the centerline of the drag link. Its tight but I think it will work OK. On mine, it helped out quite a bit to cut off the excess length on the threaded end of the ram (I was afraid of the heat with the chop saw, so I used a hacksaw--only took 5-10 min.)

Pete