I am putting a 97 Rodeo D44 under my XJ. I was tearing it apart to check everything out and just to get aquainted with how things come apart.

Question is, it appears as if you have to press off the ABS (or speedo?) tone ring and bearing to seperate the axle shaft from the backing plate. Is that right?

Secondly, in my searching on the subject I heard that the bearing essentially needs to be cut off and that they don't exactly press off very well.

So here's the stupid question (as expected, this is my first build), how is one to make a trail fix without having a complete axle shaft AND backing plate already assembled?

Thoughts? Or am i just an idiot?:flipoff2:

-jm

So here's the stupid question (as expected, this is my first build), how is one to make a trail fix without having a complete axle shaft AND backing plate already assembled?


Oddly enough, I've been thinking about the same thing. I've become a pro at tearing down my Rodeo's D44, but I've never touched any other axle, so I'm not really sure how it differs. My imediate solution for trail spares is to just cary a pair of salvaged Rodeo axle shafts :idea: I removed the e-brake assembly and the dust shield to make it a little easier to store. This way, the bearings and seals are already in place.

I have the same usderstanding about the bearings needing to be cut off.

Question is, it appears as if you have to press off the ABS (or speedo?) tone ring and bearing to seperate the axle shaft from the backing plate. Is that right?
*Ugh no...the abs/speed sensor is mounted on the carrier not the axle shafts.
It's the ring with the teeth on it behind/under the ring gear.

The wheel bearing,seal and backing plate are held onto the axle by the metal collar by the bearing.Heat up and cutoff the collar and remove axle bearing---
light pressfit,then seal and backing plate.

As for a trail spair--------examine both axles and you'll see the only difference is location for ebrake cable---easy mod and cutout for caliper.I would modify backing plate by cuting away useless metal,but I would keep the backing plate on,it will act like an axle retainer if you should break an axle it will not come out of the rearend.

Bansil

*Ugh no...the abs/speed sensor is mounted on the carrier not the axle shafts.
It's the ring with the teeth on it behind/under the ring gear.
Bansil

I did a little more searching and found info that Isuzu used either a tone ring on the carrier or at the end of the tubes... of course it appears that the former is much more common. And mine are in fact on the end of the shafts.

Nevertheless, thats the info I was looking for... thanks guys.

-jm

[QUOTE]I did a little more searching and found info that Isuzu used either a tone ring on the carrier or at the end of the tubes... of course it appears that the former is much more common. And mine are in fact on the end of the shafts.
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Not to say differently but I've tore into a 90,91,2 --97 D44's a 94 and a 95 D44 as well as 3--98's D44's and have never seen or heard of the abs sensor not on the carrier.Are you sure it's a Isuzu D44? They did use a gm 10bolt in the rear of them for a couple years but never a 97.

If you have 1 can you post a pic?

Thanks
bansil


You may not see this since your ? was answer'd though.

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found a pic on my comp...................so you's looks different than this?

Not to say differently but I've tore into a 90,91,2 --97 D44's a 94 and a 95 D44 as well as 3--98's D44's and have never seen or heard of the abs sensor not on the carrier.

Doug, I'm pretty sure these do exist. Though I've never layed eyes on one, I've seen many application references for Isuzu D44's and have come across two ABS options... single sensor at the diff, and two sensors one at the end of each tube.

while this setup isn't as common as the tone ring at the diff, I believe it does exist. can't give you exact years and models, but they're out there.

-Rob

Doug, I'm pretty sure these do exist. Though I've never layed eyes on one, I've seen many application references for Isuzu D44's and have come across two ABS options... single sensor at the diff, and two sensors one at the end of each tube.

Interesting,could there be a third D44 that Isuzu used?
I remember seeing/hearing that someone went to put a lunchbox locker in a LSD D44 rear,it was a mid 90's model.

But instead of having the typical LSD with disc's/clutch pack behind the sidegears(between the sidegears and carrier) it had a carrier type LSD with the clutch pack inside the carrier with springs and junk.

I think it may have been JoeD.

Myself,Rubo,and Jeremy had this discussion about him being crazy:grinpimp:
since we had all been inside of Isuzu LSD cases.

He went with a Detroit I think.

I will make a note to look at his rearend:flipoff2: at Hallo'wharrie at the end of the month.

the GM 10-bolt's found in the Rodeos have the type of LSD you're describing... perhaps that is the source of confusion. All the Isuzue D44 LSD's I've seen or heard of have been Traclocs, with the clutch packs behind the spyder gears.

But as far as the ABS goes... go check out www.car-parts.com and play with choosing different year Rodeo rear axles. You'll see for some years, there are options for ABS on the housing or ABS on the tubes.

-Rob