: Rockwells under an EB???


road1will
03-16-2002, 05:23 PM
Is there room for Rockwells under an EB? I have a 73 Land Rover on an EB frame with no axles and I want the most beef possible. I am going to be running leafs front and rear and 39.5" Swampers. I would cut the Rockwells for ground clearance. Any input appreciated. Thanks!

smoothcharlene
03-16-2002, 09:52 PM
IMO you would almost need to run at least 42" tires to justify using 2.5ton rockwells. The only gear ratio's they are available in is like a 6.72 gear ratio or something. To run a 39.5" tire with this setup would be too much gear, not enough tire.

road1will
03-16-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by smoothcharlene
IMO you would almost need to run at least 42" tires to justify using 2.5ton rockwells. The only gear ratio's they are available in is like a 6.72 gear ratio or something. To run a 39.5" tire with this setup would be too much gear, not enough tire.

i dont care newbie, its a trail rig only. and i just might end up running 42s depending on what kind of deal i can get.

3000rpm with 6.72 gears and 39" tall tires = 51mph

not bad if i would only be driving it on two lane roads anyways.

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

IronBenderII
03-17-2002, 08:50 AM
Hey 9-Volt, I think your original post said something like any input appreciated. Nice of you to be a dick to the newbie that was trying to help a guy out. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

smoothcharlene
03-17-2002, 10:34 AM
My fault mister know it all. I was just trying to offer my input. You could cut the driver's side of the rockwell down, and do the same to the axle shaft to make it fit. Also considering that rockwells are toploading axles you would only lose about 1/4" ground clearance as opposed to a d60......but I'm sure you already knew that.

Also I have been researching this for my fullsize bronco for quite awhile now, and there is a guy in Akron Ohio who has the cheapest prices I would find.....$1,300.00 for the pair.

brocbronc
03-17-2002, 04:45 PM
sell me your D60/D70 when youre finished

broncorob
03-18-2002, 07:41 AM
I'm still having trouble figuring how you could do it without huge amounts of lift to clear the oil pan.

IronBenderII
03-18-2002, 09:07 AM
For sure. It's tought to keep D60's from hitting the frame rail/oil pan, let alone a rockwell.

Why are you trading in the D60/70? Are you breaking a lot?

Perhaps if you have a body lift you could put new motor mounts in that are higher up to help clear. Then you could put the Rockwell a bit more to center. That should give you enough room for the arms.

What the hell kind of wheelin are you planning on dong? I wanna go see the carnage!

-Jack

road1will
03-18-2002, 09:20 AM
sorry guys- no rockwells. maybe within the next year or two though, and THEN ill sell my D60/D70!

i was considering rockwells because they are CHEAP and STRONG and i just wanted to find out the feasability of fitting them in my Bronco-Rover.

in any case the wheeling that i do revolves around wet, mossy rocks, to mud, to dry rock, to mud, to slippery ledges, and lots of creekbed stuff. all in all, a significant amount of right-foot is needed some of the time.

think upper helldorado except with wet moss covered rocks and mudholes in between a lot of the rocks. plus it all sits in a streambed.

Junkyard Slug
03-23-2002, 01:05 AM
I don't know about an early Bronco, but on my 86 Bronco I am having to lift it somthing like 14-16 inches to clear the oil pan, I suspect the EB is the same. One option I have thought about is to move the engine back about a foot. It would move the center of gravity from the front to the middle and let you run a more modest lift. It would be a lot of work, but hell, no one said it would be easy. Just my $0.02

JYS

davids78bronco
03-26-2002, 01:15 AM
Move the engine back...now that's a good idea. I'd have no problem cutting my firewall back to make room

stonpny
03-26-2002, 01:23 AM
why not scoot the axle forward and raise the engine a couple of inches. if you moved it forward you could run some cool ass coil overs and a 3 link with hydraulic steering............this is what i am thinking of doing to my eb as well. you will of course have to trim away the sheetmetal. then there is this other way i have been toying with........ rebody, with a streetrod body(32 ford pickup). then you can raise the motor quite a bit and have a flat belly pan. you just need to cutomize the floorpan and body mounts.....good luck and keep us posted

emsoffroad
03-26-2002, 07:27 AM
The last set of rockwells I picked up were $800 for two fronts, plus a parts one. Guy down near Philly is selling the fronts for $450 and the rears for $300. There are deals out there.

davids78bronco
03-26-2002, 08:50 AM
ems...any chance you tell me the contact info about how to get a set of those Rockwells? I can't ship all the way to the west coast, but I know a guy in PA who would kill for a pair. Thanks

smoothcharlene
03-26-2002, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by davids78bronco
ems...any chance you tell me the contact info about how to get a set of those Rockwells? I can't ship all the way to the west coast, but I know a guy in PA who would kill for a pair. Thanks

I would, I would. It's only about a 6hr drive for me. and for that price it would be worth it.

davids78bronco
03-26-2002, 09:48 AM
hahahaa, you're the sucker I was talking about too, smooth!

Junkyard Slug
03-26-2002, 07:10 PM
Move the engine up? Why would you want to do that? To make your CG worse?

JYS

smoothcharlene
03-26-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Junkyard Slug
Move the engine up? Why would you want to do that? To make your CG worse?

JYS

So how much lift did you need to clear the engine?? Considering basically the exact swap you did in the future....rockwells, 460/c6 combo from a '78. Any pics of your truck?

davids78bronco
03-26-2002, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Junkyard Slug
Move the engine up? Why would you want to do that? To make your CG worse?

JYS

I was wondering that too....it'd also severly affect the front output on the Tcase. I tell ya, I like your 'move the engine back' idea best

smoothcharlene
03-26-2002, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Junkyard Slug
I don't know about an early Bronco, but on my 86 Bronco I am having to lift it somthing like 14-16 inches to clear the oil pan, I suspect the EB is the same. One option I have thought about is to move the engine back about a foot. It would move the center of gravity from the front to the middle and let you run a more modest lift. It would be a lot of work, but hell, no one said it would be easy. Just my $0.02

JYS

Guess you already answered my above question before I asked it....I'm a dumbass, and shoulda read that before I posted huh

aaronlosey
03-27-2002, 12:36 PM
by the way, how the hell do you shave a rockwell for clearance? its not like shaving a normal axle.

smoothcharlene
03-27-2002, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by aaronlosey
by the way, how the hell do you shave a rockwell for clearance? its not like shaving a normal axle.

A rockwell actually will only hang 1/4" lower than a dana60, and that's at the rockwells' lowest point. Plus the way a rockwell is setup the bottom is rounded so it would in theory be less likely to hang up than a 60. I'd fab up some kind of skidplate for it, and have at it.

davids78bronco
03-27-2002, 02:52 PM
A skidplate? Those housings are at least 1/4" thick. Until I can prove myself otherwise, those are plenty thick enough for me

Gozuki
03-27-2002, 03:16 PM
I've got em for sale in Ca- For Sale section-$700