Its time for me to start my build. I have been asking, lurking, and gathering parts for this thing and I think im ready to start. Im hoping other 80/800 owners can look to this thread as a source for their own build ideas. This is in no way going to be 'extreme'. Its just a basic build to improve on the weak spots and make it a generally better all around truck.

Plan is... Dana 44 front and rear, 5.13's, detroits, FF-R, 4 wheel discs.

Spring over with Wrangler springs and Rusty's off road full length add a leafs, shackle reversal.

Power steering using the Ford box, ram assist, high steer.

FI using the GM parts and info from the JI board.

Extras like... full cage, Warn OD, rock lights, protection, etc...

Looks like I better get my red star back so I can post pics again.:grinpimp:

Sweet:grinpimp:
It's good to see just what 44's will hold.......4cyl right? Anyhow that will help this is going to be :smokin:

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Went to the JY this weekend and got my steering box,computer,distributors for the EFI,1bbl TB ,and misc axle parts.
I need to call Randys R&P tomarow and order my 5.13s and Detroit.The budget has no room for 2 detroits so I'm gonna put and aussie locker in the front.

I guess I'm gonna scroung around and find a waggy front cuz my chev is gonna take too much work to make work for my application.so until then I'll focus on the rear end.

Went to the JY this weekend and got my steering box,computer,distributors for the EFI,1bbl TB ,and misc axle parts.
I need to call Randys R&P tomarow and order my 5.13s and Detroit.The budget has no room for 2 detroits so I'm gonna put and aussie locker in the front.

I guess I'm gonna scroung around and find a waggy front cuz my chev is gonna take too much work to make work for my application.so until then I'll focus on the rear end.

Take a look on my side of town. Multiple waggy front ends at U-pull-it in Sherwood. Some are complete - some not....

Take a look on my side of town. Multiple waggy front ends at U-pull-it in Sherwood. Some are complete - some not....
Chris,you know how many by chance?I need a regular waggy,not a Cherokee.it just happened that all the ones in damascus were chiefs with driver side diffs.

Take a look on my side of town. Multiple waggy front ends at U-pull-it in Sherwood. Some are complete - some not....
Chris,you know how many by chance?I need a regular waggy,not a Cherokee.it just happened that all the ones in damascus were chiefs with driver side diffs.

If you need some prices on gears and such, call me on the cell, I may be able to do better than Randy's on Randy's stuff. Cause you're such a nice guy.

. Cause you're such a nice guy.


You don't know him too well do ya?:laughing: :laughing: :D

He put's up with you so that's gotta count for something! :D

Chris,you know how many by chance?I need a regular waggy,not a Cherokee.it just happened that all the ones in damascus were chiefs with driver side diffs.


Not all Cherokee axles are W/T. Only the Chiefs are wide. Cherokees are just a 2 Door Waggy. I've seen several N/T Cherokees in my area. That's wierd that you saw so many DS Chiefs. I've only seen one here that I can remember. I see at least a dozen DS N/T Waggys every day!

If you narrow that Chief rear can you save the stock short side shaft for me since you won't need it? I'll come pick it up later.

hey guys got a free 800 you should come get. Need it gone asap. Has hardtop and all

hey guys got a free 800 you should come get. Need it gone asap. Has hardtop and all

got title?

got title?

yeah more detail please. If Ben doesn't want it I know of a few people looking for projects.

What are you using for power?

Its time for me to start my build. I have been asking, lurking, and gathering parts for this thing and I think im ready to start. Im hoping other 80/800 owners can look to this thread as a source for their own build ideas. This is in no way going to be 'extreme'. Its just a basic build to improve on the weak spots and make it a generally better all around truck.

Plan is... Dana 44 front and rear, 5.13's, detroits, FF-R, 4 wheel discs.

Spring over with Wrangler springs and Rusty's off road full length add a leafs, shackle reversal.

Power steering using the Ford box, ram assist, high steer.

FI using the GM parts and info from the JI board.

Extras like... full cage, Warn OD, rock lights, protection, etc...

Looks like I better get my red star back so I can post pics again.:grinpimp:
Sounds like a manual tranny version of a comp Scout I've seen somewhere.:rolleyes: :D

Yeah Jay except this one won't be more trouble than its worth.

I plan on the 152 for now.I have a 4.3 that will go in later but for now I'm trying to keep it sorta simple.I'm using GM TBI so when I switch from 152 to 4.3 all my FI stuff is done.

The plan has changed some,I'm gonna run some NT waggy axles qnd keep the 6 bolt pattern.Found a guy locally with a pair for cheap (thanks creepy),so I'm gonna go that route.

This weekend I'm gonna JY the last few FI parts I need and tear the axles down to prep them for the new gears and whatnot.

Ordered my gears and Detroit from D&C.Orderd my cell,filler neck,and extras from speedway.

Bought my NT waggy axles.

Tore the rear end down tonight.Sweet mother of God!!!There was more mud and water in there than I have ever seen in my life!Thank God the only thing I'm keeping is the housing.

I'm having a hard time tracking down wrangler springs.maybe I should consider different springs.You guys have any suggestions?44044s?63"chev springs?I'm pretty open at this point.

Tore the front axle apart tonight.Not as bad as the rear but it still looks like it came from the titanic.

Randys is dragging their feet.If my gears come in Friday I'll start set up this weekend.If not I'll hit the junk yard for my 56"springs.

Really hoping to sell my PTO winch and front axle.Check the garage sale.

My gears came in Monday,as did my cell and fuel parts.

My buddy has a lathe so he is helping me turn my spindles for my FF 44.we got 1 done completely and the other one half way done.I took pics so I'll post them real soon.

I'm gonna set up the front end this weekend or the first part of next week.

I coppedout and am having the rear set up by a pro.I figure the rear is gonna see all the action so I don't want to compromise on it.maybe on the next one:shaking:

Pics on the way!

My gears came in Monday,as did my cell and fuel parts.

My buddy has a lathe so he is helping me turn my spindles for my FF 44.we got 1 done completely and the other one half way done.I took pics so I'll post them real soon.

I'm gonna set up the front end this weekend or the first part of next week.

I coppedout and am having the rear set up by a pro.I figure the rear is gonna see all the action so I don't want to compromise on it.maybe on the next one:shaking:

Pics on the way!

That would be cool, otherwise, we're only taking your word for it. :smokin:

I put a set of gears in my Scout II a few years ago, worked out good. I need to put some 488's in the Scout 800 now plus I need new gears and a Detroit in my 69 SWB C-10. I have a 60 ton press, and dial indicator, still need the parts. The only thing slowing me down is the fear of fucking up.

Picked my rear axle up from the gear shop today.5.13's and the Detroit nestled in their new home.My spindles are done too.All I need to do is weld on some perches and order my custom shafts and I got the rear done!

Pics to come, I promise.

Hitting the junk yards Sunday for my springs.any last comments on springs before its too late to turn back?

any more details on the homebrew d44 fullfloater stuff?

hey had a quick question. some one help me out.

why is the the wagoneer axle easier than a chevy?

why not find a full width IH D44.? how close are they?

I am just asking...i am about to go full width on my 800 and just looking at options. I heard alot of times the chevy has so much caster built in so you wouldn't have to cut and turn.


I dont know what to use for the front currently the plan is to use a 9" (64in WMS) in the rear and a chevy front. just afraid it may look :rainbow: . and the springs so far are MRscout 2.5". Basically. What works, looks cool and drives/wheels well.?

New here. I have some wrangler springs if you are still looking. I am in Lafayette, Indiana. Have no idea on shipping. Would rather sell to you than to the local jeepers. How's $50.00 for all 4? +shipping of course.

any more details on the homebrew d44 fullfloater stuff?


Ya Dan, Inquiring minds want to know and see PICTURES!!!

Keep your shirts on kids!Sunday you will have your pics.

The spindles are just 44 front spindles turned down to match the ID of the bearing surface of the rear end.then we opened up the ID of the spindle to pass the shaft through.the ID of the spindle was 1.28 and we opened it to 1.39.the new shafts are 1.31.the spindle wall is a little thin but I'm not too worried.I probably wouldn't run this on a heavy rig but my scout weighs 3700lbs,so I feel ok about it.

Meho check your PM's!

Sunday? No, pictures NOW ;)

The spindles are just 44 front spindles turned down to match the ID of the bearing surface of the rear end.then we opened up the ID of the spindle to pass the shaft through.the ID of the spindle was 1.28 and we opened it to 1.39.the new shafts are 1.31.the spindle wall is a little thin but I'm not too worried.I probably wouldn't run this on a heavy rig but my scout weighs 3700lbs,so I feel ok about it.
That’s interesting, I remember looking at GM front spindles before to "convert" into rear D44 FF spindles. This was when I had a FF kit for some Jeep axle and was "reverse engineering" it. I didn't find enough meat in the flange to turn down to fit into a D44 housing.

Wonder if you have different spindles? Or if its a Waggy thing.


I would be interested in pictures as well, before, during and after... even though I have passed the D44 stage :D

Here are the pics you all wanted. I am a fly by the seat of my pants kind of fabricator so problems were addressed on the fly. It was fun. we'll see if it hold up. First set of pics are during the machining process.

Here is the finished product. We cut an O-ring groove into the back of the flange for a little more liquid proofing.

Here is the first problem i ran into. The spindle bolt pattern is smaller than the flange. Sort of. I had to make my own T bolts just to get it done.

Second pic is the second problem. To get the caliper bracket to sit where its supposed to, some of the holes ran into other holes. I used a 3/8's, 2 flute, self centering, end mill to drill the holes without walking out into the exsisting holes. I'm not super keen about the bolt heads sitting over the other openings. Im gonna machine some washers down or something to cover it.

finally the finished product. All bolted up and brackets on. I want to cover those holes, but other than that its ready for spring pads.

it came out about 1/2" wider than stock which I can live with.

Rear is loaded with 5.13's and a detroit, in case your wondering. Im gonna use that flimsy thin cover as a dog dish and get a thick cover with some protection added.

Dan,

What spring combo did you end up with?? Any luck at the JY's? I read somewhere else you got green in the shop, so I am wondering what you decided suspension wise?

My work sched has been outa controll lately so I haven't been able to get to the yards.I think I'm gonna go with 52"chevs.

I'm gonna try and get at least a pair so I can start on the rear. This week hopefully.

Orderd my aussie locker.need to get some steel and I can start on the fab parts.

Stay tuned for pics!

My work sched has been outa controll lately so I haven't been able to get to the yards.I think I'm gonna go with 52"chevs.

I'm gonna try and get at least a pair so I can start on the rear. This week hopefully.

Orderd my aussie locker.need to get some steel and I can start on the fab parts.

Stay tuned for pics!

whats the reliability of the full float looking like so far

So far I haven't got to test it yet.its still sitting on the bench.I'm not super impressed with only 1/8+of stickout into the axle housing,but with 5 3/8 grade 8 bolts,I don't think the spindle is gonna walk out on me.as far as durability I think full 30 spline shafts and drive flanges will be plenty tough for 4cyl and 35s.

Got my 52 inch springs today.I'm gonna run 48 inch chevs in the front.they just fit better on mock up.

Fabbed my shackle hangers today.also started on my spring pads too.

Pics to come.

wheres the pix?

Pics Pics Pics` :d :d :d

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Your all going to have to wait.I'm on vacation till Monday.I'm gonna do some more work on it then.

I need to get the gas tanks out so I can build the front of the rear springs hanger.

Keep your shorts on!

Excuses ~ next thing you'll know is he'll come and park it next to Rusty.

Excuses ~ next thing you'll know is he'll come and park it next to Rusty.

At least you provide pics :D

At least you provide pics :D
Its the decent thing to do :D

Are you still using the bearing inside the spindle, or did you just get rid of it all together?

No.we had to bore the spindle to get the 30 spline shaft to fit.the hub will support the shaft so it won't hit the spindle.

Still no pics. :shaking:

Still no pics. :shaking:

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FF D44

All 1/2ton front axle bearings and seals; bolt in flanged hub. I even use the same locknut socket as I do up front. BTW, I have post-'88 1/2 ton front cheb rotor and caliper.

Bling!

I'm having trouble with my BlackBerry so now I can't view pictures or even see avatars.

Got the rear half of the frame cleaned up.all original bracketry and tabs have been cut off and ground smooth.tacked my shackle hangers in place.also got my front mounts of the rear springs cut.I just need to gusset them and drill holes for the spring bolts and plug welds.

I still need to grind the old perches of the axle and stick my new sandwich ones on.I'll do that after I have the springs on so I can get the right width and pinion angle.hoping to have the rear done by Christmas night.

I wish grinding didn't take so damn long.took me 2 hrs just to grind off 2 bump stops 2 shackle hangers and 2 front spring mounts.:rolleyes:

FF D44

All 1/2ton front axle bearings and seals; bolt in flanged hub. I even use the same locknut socket as I do up front. BTW, I have post-'88 1/2 ton front cheb rotor and caliper.

What are you using for axle shafts?

Looks cool.

I wish grinding didn't take so damn long.took me 2 hrs just to grind off 2 bump stops 2 shackle hangers and 2 front spring mounts.:rolleyes:

Start with a torch! Or a plasma cutter - then smooth them out with your grinder. Or get a bigger grinder!

I'm having trouble with my BlackBerry so now I can't view pictures or even see avatars.

Got the rear half of the frame cleaned up.all original bracketry and tabs have been cut off and ground smooth.tacked my shackle hangers in place.also got my front mounts of the rear springs cut.I just need to gusset them and drill holes for the spring bolts and plug welds.

I still need to grind the old perches of the axle and stick my new sandwich ones on.I'll do that after I have the springs on so I can get the right width and pinion angle.hoping to have the rear done by Christmas night.

I wish grinding didn't take so damn long.took me 2 hrs just to grind off 2 bump stops 2 shackle hangers and 2 front spring mounts.:rolleyes:

Dan,

If you remind me on the 31st, I'll bring the camera and get some pics up for ya. Just remind me!

FF D44

All 1/2ton front axle bearings and seals; bolt in flanged hub. I even use the same locknut socket as I do up front. BTW, I have post-'88 1/2 ton front cheb rotor and caliper.


What spindle did you use and how did you mount it?

here are some pics of what i started with and where im going.

getting the tanks out.

cleaned the frame up

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PICS! :D

Got the hangers 99%done.need to build shackles and get the axle prepped to hang.

Hopefully I can get some serious work done on it over the holiday weekend.

Anybody have any old 35's they don't need anymore?I'm gonna need tires soon.

Got the hangers 99%done.need to build shackles and get the axle prepped to hang.

Hopefully I can get some serious work done on it over the holiday weekend.

Anybody have any old 35's they don't need anymore?I'm gonna need tires soon.

TT mentioned in the Christmas thread his wife got him some 38's. What was he running before?

build your rear bumper first, then you will have more room to play with. I would recomend to chop out the old rear x-member and rehab it with channel while your at it.:D That would give you a stronger setup to build a bumper/rear shackle system off the new x-member:) Plus the extra weight will change your shackle angles.........

Day late and a dollar short my friend.springs are in.besides,I'm not running a rear bumper ,persay.my small swingout will mount to the rear legs of the cage.I'm losing the tail gate and replacing it with the swingout that will act as a tailgate.

Pics to come.

Pics to come.

Ya, right. :laughing:









:) :p

Pics to come.

Yeah......like we haven't heard that one before :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Yeah......like we haven't heard that one before :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

No, he's got them on a CD, he brough them by today, so I could pull off a few of our PS box porting/rebuild cluster!:flipoff2:

No, he's got them on a CD, he brough them by today, so I could pull off a few of our PS box porting/rebuild cluster!:flipoff2:

WHY DIDN'T YOU POST THEM!!!!!! :D :shaking:

WHY DIDN'T YOU POST THEM!!!!!! :D :shaking:
Cause I am mean like that!!:flipoff2: He said he'd take care of them, I didn't even get to look at them:(

Cause I am mean like that!!:flipoff2: He said he'd take care of them, I didn't even get to look at them:(


here you go you vultures. Start your own damn projects:flipoff2:

Getting stuff figured out.

close up of my U-boltless spring perches.

here is a close up of the finished spring perch clamp.

wide shot. finished product. 9/16 grade 8 bolts with top lock nuts AND lock washers just to be safe. 2 1/2 x 1/4 square tube cut down for the base of the perch. 3/8 plate top and bottom. welded in stages, welder set to BURN.

52" chev rears turned around for 6" of wheel base.

Your clamping thingys are much less complicated and time consuming than what I was thinking of.

Your clamping thingys are much less complicated and time consuming than what I was thinking of.

Yeah, they look really simple but it seemed to take forever and the durability is what 'could be' questionable.

With U-bolts, you twist the perch off, the axle stays attached to the truck. My method, the weld breaks, axle takes off back to the wild. I figuring 4" long 9/16 bolts have less failure chance than 10" long 5/8 bolts that get dragged over everything.

It all comes down to my welding. Rock scout is still holding together, so must be sorta ok at it.

Pure luck man...its all pure luck.

here is the rear on its own weight. This MoFo is gonna be tall. I think 37's are gonna fit fine.

got the front end stripped. Its ready to start grinding off the old mounts. I'm hoping to have started on hanging the front springs this weekend.

Look more pictures! Wowl.

get that stock steer box out of there too....:p
Grab a saginaw 800 p/s box for inside the frame and a tilt/telescoping caddy column to go with it....then atleast you would know how the steer linkage will fit versus your new axle location.:D

get that stock steer box out of there too....:p
Grab a saginaw 800 p/s box for inside the frame and a tilt/telescoping caddy column to go with it....then atleast you would know how the steer linkage will fit versus your new axle location.:D

He's got a Ford box already.

Yeah, I'm gonna run a ford box. Its long and fits the stock location nicely. I'm gonna run a ram too, so my steering should be more than ok. I need to get the springs in and the axle up, then I can move onto steering.

ford box, didn't read that portion.:D (Mid/late 70's GM fullsize cars have those sweet tilt steering columns)

I thought it would be kinda retro to keep the big wheel I have in there now.I like it and it fits pretty well.the column controls work great anyway.

You can't tell by the pics but this scout only has 116K on the ticker.everything in the cab worked good.

I like the clamp design, I think this should turn out good... 52" in rear, I have 52" up front, and 64" in rear, mine are really long!

Thanks.

I ran into an intersting problem today.I got another set of 52's today to run in the front.funny thing is,they aren't 52's.they are 50's with a centerd pin.I didn't pull them,the yard did.I didn't even notice till I got home and got them apart.they fit the front pretty good.gonna put the front end right back to original location.maybe an inch more WB,maybe.

Got all the old brackets off,PTO winch off,bumper off,steering box off,shackle hangers up and springs mocked in.need to make the rear mount for the front spring and shackles,then I am done with suspension for now.

Next week is gear set up and front axle install.

Stay tuned.

More progress this week. Got Stuff hung and if I had the hardware, it would be resting on its own weight.

Worked on these mostly.

here it is tacked on

Here's where I left it today. Shackles are up. Hanging by their own tight fit. If I had the bolts it would be all sinched in.

Gear works next, then the power box(ported for ram) gets installed, then shafts and brake assemblys, then high steer arms go on, then tube work. I'm sooo stoked!:grinpimp:

Those are some WIDE springs!

here it is tacked on


I really like the look of those spring hangers :cool2:

I used some "store (http://www.wfoconcepts.com/CustomParts/Leaf.html)" bought stuff, but don't like the extra lift they give me.
Currently only welded where I can easily cut the welds, once tires are mounted I will make the a decision to cut them or not.

Hope I did not give you too much crap on those U bolts:D Way to funny that I have a stock Scout with desert dog tires LOL

Hope I did not give you too much crap on those U bolts:D Way to funny that I have a stock Scout with desert dog tires LOL


Please, have you read any of my posts? i dont take any of this stuff too hard.



Got more done today. tore the axle down, black gunk and water. Yummy!

Believe it or not, it patterned out perfect on the first try. My set up bearings are a little snug so I fought them occasionally.

stopped meth production to cook bearings instead:laughing:

Here it is done. For now. My locker isnt here yet so I set it up empty. Aussies go in easy enough.

yay, lame ass pictures of a diff with no cover:shaking:

I think it went well because of my helper.

Thinking of changing the team name from TacTracTor to Oneyedweinerdog racing.

What is he? Half watch dog? :flipoff2:

He's more of a watch dog than my big dog 'Zeke'. Zeke would let you rob the place then bark when you were leaving cuz you didnt pet him.




TECH: Got the axle in the truck today. Lots of tedious bracket and misc fab work. Did get the HD diff cover done. Still need the 'big' U-bolts for the diff side. Anybody know the size? They look like 4" maybe?

Off to the yards for ford hubs and rotors.

Anybody know the best place/price for ball joints?

Forgot the camera today. Pics soon:flipoff2:

Just get napa's ball joints, by the time you get shipping involved, they will be the cheapest.

Anybody know the best place/price for ball joints?


www.partsmikeparts.com seems to have a good price for spicer brand

When your buying the upper ball joints, check to see where the grease zerk is at. Most are located in the center of the ball joint and have to be removed after greased and plugged with the supplied threaded plug.
If you look at raybestos and some of the other good brands, the grease zerk comes out at an angle sideways instead of straight down. If you get these then it's a hell of a lot easier to grease your upper ball joints when needed.

lots of progress. I got the rear springs finished. I removed 1 more leaf and got the right sized hardware. Rear discs are on. My 30spline warn drive flanges are here but im waiting on shafts from Dutchman.

lots of progress. I got the rear springs finished. I removed 1 more leaf and got the right sized hardware. Rear discs are on. My 30spline warn drive flanges are here but im waiting on shafts from Dutchman.

Are you going to be ready to wheel by March 4th? The Third is my Birthday and I was thinking about trying to get out on the 4th for a birthday wheel:smokin: !

Front axle is up and my HD diff cover is on. Still waiting on the locker. Knuckles are here with fresh ball joints and 5/8 studs. Didnt get them on though.

got the floor pan cut out and ready to be tacked in. Actually, the old lady cut them out.

Perfect fit

Are you going to be ready to wheel by March 4th? The Third is my Birthday and I was thinking about trying to get out on the 4th for a birthday wheel:smokin: !

Invite me, invite me :D

Are you going to be ready to wheel by March 4th? The Third is my Birthday and I was thinking about trying to get out on the 4th for a birthday wheel:smokin: !

Its a strong possibility. I got parts rolling in left and right. the biggest hang up is gonna be the FI. I'm starting on the rest of the cage next weekend. Once the main part is done, I'm gonna get the FI going, then during down time while im waiting for chips, I'll wrap up cage stuff. I have the OK from Mandy to camp out at the shop so with work schedule permitting, I plan on really hitting it hard.:grinpimp:

Invite me, invite me :D

Nothing really to invite anyone too yet, but consider this the official invitation!:D


Its a strong possibility. I got parts rolling in left and right. the biggest hang up is gonna be the FI. I'm starting on the rest of the cage next weekend. Once the main part is done, I'm gonna get the FI going, then during down time while im waiting for chips, I'll wrap up cage stuff. I have the OK from Mandy to camp out at the shop so with work schedule permitting, I plan on really hitting it hard.:grinpimp:

Let me know if I can lend a hand. I am trying to get my pickup, rolling and have plans for this Saturday, however if you need another hand, just call. Mandy looks like she's doing better then I would already!!:D :smokin:

Shackle angle looks crazy ~ nice work. I like seeing chicks with torches.

Shackle angle looks crazy ~ nice work. I like seeing chicks with torches.

She likes the plasma cutter.she's getting down right artistic with the thing.

The shackle angle is steep but it works.if reverse shackles have 'fangs' I guess I have 'buck teeth'.

interesting development today...I ordered my high strength shafts from Dutchman today. He wanted my exact measurements on the inner shafts. So i called 6 states with my BOM#. Turns out my waggy axles arent just regular old waggy axles. They are the wider 'chief' axles. I wanted to stay kinda narrow but I guess I can live with the extra width.

I'm keeping the front shafts for spares, anybody want to buy some WT waggy rear shafts?

Started on the tube work today. After I got my floors tacked in that is.:) 80's already have a tiny cab and I didnt want to make it smaller with a bunch of tube so I am building and ino-exo cage.

Nothing like thinking outside the box:flipoff2:

first couple bends. Yeah, I know, my tube seam is in the wrong place.:flipoff2:

Trying to match the lines of the truck.

and the point of it all... leg room.

I know, I know, turn your fawkin head. :D

Gonna try and make progress on the other side and get them tied together with a cross bar or two.

Yes, the hood opens fine. I'll cut slots in it if I ever have to remove it. Glove box needed a little trimming inside where the tube came through. Totally hidden to the untrained eye.:rolleyes:

That will make it tuff to fit the ECM in there now!!
Maybe some more cutting!!!

first couple bends. Yeah, I know, my tube seam is in the wrong place.:flipoff2:

Wrong place exactly. One thing I always liked about those trucks, is the fold down windshield. May as well weld it in place now :p .

I know, I know, turn your fawkin head. :D

Gonna try and make progress on the other side and get them tied together with a cross bar or two.

Yes, the hood opens fine. I'll cut slots in it if I ever have to remove it. Glove box needed a little trimming inside where the tube came through. Totally hidden to the untrained eye.:rolleyes:


That is gonna look sweet!

Nice work man. How did you get those hole-saw's in there so clean, put an extension on the drill?

I appericiate you taking the time to make the tubs somewhat resemble the factory lines. Shows alot better quality and craftsmanship. I've seen a couple 'exo' toyotas around town that look like the owner simply built a box around everything ~ looks ok, but I had the urge to cut it off and started again.

Your work doesn't give me that impression/feeling.

if reverse shackles have 'fangs' I guess I have 'buck teeth'.
Perfect for a hick boy like you :D :D :D

That will make it tuff to fit the ECM in there now!!
Maybe some more cutting!!!

Rubbermaid and velcro!!!!:grinpimp: :grinpimp:

Wrong place exactly. :p .

I can't even see the tube seam in those pictures, how are you able to tell where it is? It hasn't peeled open already has it - what did I miss?:confused:

I like it!

Actually, having my cage come down normally, doesn't bother me too much (I'm only 5'8")....
However, having it come down inside the bulkhead does....
I mounted my seats inside the pillar to have the extra 3" of recline, but now the seat is offset several inches from the pedals.
I plan on just moving the seat over & losing the recline.

Wish my pillar went into the bed instead...:(

Rubbermaid and velcro!!!!:grinpimp: :grinpimp:
Ya BABY!

http://www.dandcextreme.com/upload/rusty224.jpg
http://www.dandcextreme.com/upload/rusty223.jpg

:bling: :bling:




:laughing:




You know you're just jelous that I had it first! ;)

I think you need a little bit more Velcro on the bottom of that ECM.... I can still see a couple square millimeters of uncovered surface. :flipoff2:

Ya, well, I don't think the extra couple strips will be missed, not like I'm ever going to finish it...


















;)

Wrong place exactly. One thing I always liked about those trucks, is the fold down windshield. May as well weld it in place now :p .
Your not from Oregon are you?I wanted to keep the cabtop for rain and sun block,so there will be no windshield folding down anyway.also,after wheeling the rockscout with no windshield,having it there is not a big deal.I still can't see over the hood.

The tube seem is on the right hand side of the bend.not the best place if I were to nit pick.

The computer is going in through the radio hole in the dash and mounting to the firewall.

I spent all day today chasing parts so no bendy for me today.:mad:

Nice rig, very interested in the xo-cage, looks like you got the right idea for the lines. Can't wait to see more.

Just don't seal it up too good.
It needs a little air to circulate. The driver circuits produce some heat!!!

Or put a couple of cross vent holes in it.

The other option is to just silicone the case and connectors and velcro it right to the firewall.

They don't seem like they get much air in the kick panels of the astros?

Maybe you just burn hot chips?:)

They don't seem like they get much air in the kick panels of the astros?

Maybe you just burn hot chips?:)

That's true!!!

Made good progress today

Aussies in, knuckles on.

Got the driver side main tube bent ans the windhshiled bars in.

in that first pic it looks like you welded your spring perch to your spring probably an illusion, i'm not a fan of exos in most cases, but yours seems different and i'm interested to see how it comes out. seems like with all that hole drilling you could have figured out how to keep leg room and still have it inside but hey i've been a web wheeler for like 6 months and will continue to be until my ass is out of school and can make some money so... keep up the good work. I'm in portland so i'll keep a lookout for t-alls for sale for you i think there might be one in corneilius i'll check early next week

The only exo part is the roof. I plan on buildng a roof rack, or someway to mount gear for road trips.

I didnt want to run a lot of stuff in the cab cuz I hate being cramped and uncomfortable on road sections or day trips into the back country. I think its kinda booty when you cant use your glove box, light switch, window cranks, recline your seats, or have to climb in through the roof. I can live with a little weather coming in to the cab through the holes.

Above shot. All it needs is a big X and it will be perfect.

Seat bars are in. everything is tacked or in snugly.

Heres where I left it today. Tomorrow I hope to have the seats in and possibly all welded together. Its me and the old ladys 1 year so i get a few hrs to work tomorrow but no time monday:rolleyes:

When the cope needs to be close to a bend I have to use a regular copeing tool(tube notcher) but when I have the space, I use the Tiajuana tube clamp. End mill makes a beautiful notch.

now that i see it more or less done, it looks good, I hear ya on a lack of space my jeep is lacking but i'm a little dude and my traveler has more than enough:grinpimp: I like how it turned out can't wait to see it done

Got a little more done today. Floor plates are drilled and bolted in. I'll trade out the grade 5's for 8's when I ge to the hardware store. I just used what I had today.

seat bar tabs in. Generic weld on tabs.

Some guy wandered into the shop so I had him sit in the seat to check for clearance and fit. :D

I think I might bring the rear up like 1/2". Its really comfy with lots of foot room. Good visability. 97 cavalier seats, very comfy.

FYI, the backside of those plates is another pate and It will be attached to the frame via tube. I knew you knew that, but for all the newbs...:rolleyes:

seats are mounted to tubes with wrangler spring bushing. I figure they will absorb some vibes and still gives me the option of pulling the seats to get to the tranny tunnel. Also, I can pull the seats at the end of the day and set them near the camp fire or where ever. No need to bring camp chairs now:smokin:

FYI, the backside of those plates is another pate and It will be attached to the frame via tube. I knew you knew that, but for all the newbs...:rolleyes:


Make sure that both plates aren't the same size, round the edges and corners...

Helps to eliminate the can opener effect.

Make sure that both plates aren't the same size, round the edges and corners...

Helps to eliminate the can opener effect.
Do I look like that big of a newb?:flipoff2:

The plates on the bottom are bigger on at least 3 of the 4 sides.the corners are square but I think I'll be ok.I welded the 14 gauge floor right on top of the original floor.the front most plates are directly above the body rib that the body mount attaches to.

Looks great!! It looks like you are taking your time and doing a fine job :smokin: I like the tube work, but I have to know how the hood opens? Nice choice on the leafs you'll love them :D

Notice the size of the holes in the hood & the angle of the tube.

I think the hood should open just fine...

Personally, on major work, I like attaching my hood to the windshield so it is totally out of the way (for hoists & such).


BB- I figured you knew that, just posting for the few newbs who actually do search...:D

... I use the Tiajuana tube clamp. End mill makes a beautiful notch.
Thats cheating!

Holy Shite! That is looking hella kwel, dude! I like the idea the removeable seats. Be like sitting on a sofa around the campfire. Good thinking! :smokin:

Some guy wandered into the shop so I had him sit in the seat to check for clearance and fit. :D

I think I might bring the rear up like 1/2". Its really comfy with lots of foot room. Good visability. 97 cavalier seats, very comfy.

I knew I recognozied those seats! I have the same damn ones - with the same broken plastic side cover.... They are the most comfortable seats in my fleet - even better than the seats in my wifes new car, :shaking: , you'll like them.

LOOKS GOOD! It looks like you'll make March 4th for a shake down - and be ready to roll for Cali. after that.

I knew I recognozied those seats! I have the same damn ones - with the same broken plastic side cover.... They are the most comfortable seats in my fleet - even better than the seats in my wifes new car, :shaking: , you'll like them.

LOOKS GOOD! It looks like you'll make March 4th for a shake down - and be ready to roll for Cali. after that.


How about tooling around the driveway next weekend!!:flipoff2: When are you getting your tires and wheels again??

How about tooling around the driveway next weekend!!:flipoff2: When are you getting your tires and wheels again??
I wish!I pickup my front axles,driveshafts,tires Wednesday.I still have to port my steering box and my rear axles won't be done for another week.

I need to see if bill will send me a baseline 4cyl chip.I still have a lot of BS stuff to do,brake lines,build tie rod and drag link,find and mount a winch,build the frame for soft doors,shock mounts,order and mount ram,hydro lines,mount S II motor mounts and power steering pump,mount OBA compressor,etc...

I got 28 days.no sweat.I should be sponsored by redbull after this build :)

I wish!I pickup my front axles,driveshafts,tires Wednesday.I still have to port my steering box and my rear axles won't be done for another week.

I need to see if bill will send me a baseline 4cyl chip.I still have a lot of BS stuff to do,brake lines,build tie rod and drag link,find and mount a winch,build the frame for soft doors,shock mounts,order and mount ram,hydro lines,mount S II motor mounts and power steering pump,mount OBA compressor,etc...

I got 28 days.no sweat.I should be sponsored by redbull after this build :)


I never got your blackberry with your address!!!
Maybe it was blueberry....
maybe snosberry!!!!
Still no address!!

Are you going to be able to log data before you leave?????

Let me know if you need the AC enable to bump the rpm for OBA or OBW?

As Binderman used to say to me ....
tic...tic...tic.......

I never got your blackberry with your address!!!
Maybe it was blueberry....
maybe snosberry!!!!
Still no address!!

Snosberry?

It's ok Bill, I watch TV with my kid too :flipoff2:

Snosberry?

It's ok Bill, I watch TV with my kid too :flipoff2:


Hey, these Snosberrys taste like Snosberrys!!!

Hey, these Snosberrys taste like Snosberrys!!!


"Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Littering and... littering and..."

I love super troopers!

Got tis done on monday but just now had time to post up. Here is the seat base loosely installed. I was kinda joking about pulling it out for camp chairs. Its a pain to get in and out cuz its got tight tolerances. Plus, the seats weigh 35lbs each. It would get pretty unweildly trying to move them around.

Here it is with the seats in.

Again, this was monday. I got the cage bolted to the floor today. Fully welded at all joints now. floor is painted. I need to wel on the belt tabs and space my seat up a smidge with a washer or two, then they can be bolted down for good. All the cage has left for now is the roof 'X', the expanded metal going on over that (roof rack of sorts) and the frame tie ins, i'll add door bars later.

Diesel smoke is coming over saturday to help install the FI parts while I port my steering box and install.

Just ran your 4 cyl chip on my V8!!!:D

Idles at 400rpm but the laptop says it's at 800!!

No errors or fault codes tho!!!
I'll get it out as soon as I can...

When you can afford it...upgrade to the EEPROM adapter and buy a burn one from Moates($85). Then I can just send you the files!!! (or start to play yourself!)

"Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Littering and... littering and..."

I love super troopers!..

Strangely enough, those Broken Lizzard dudes have just about got the Cop thing nailed...that is, except for the pot smokin' and taking prisoners home for sex. :shaking:
That sort of thing did happen, but it was more like 20 or 30 years ago...

"Who wants a mustache ride???"


"I do, I do!!!"


I know guys that match just about all the Troopers in that movie (from the Captain on down). I like to think of myself as a caucasian Ramathorn (although I look more like Farva). I have yet to use the 'cat game' though. :D




Got tis done on monday but just now had time to post up. Here is the seat base loosely installed. I was kinda joking about pulling it out for camp chairs. Its a pain to get in and out cuz its got tight tolerances. Plus, the seats weigh 35lbs each. It would get pretty unweildly trying to move them around.

Lookin' good. Keep the progress (and pics) coming! :beer:

Thanks bill!

Can't wait!

As Binderman used to say to me ....
tic...tic...tic.......

I get my first qoute and ya miss it!!:shaking:

Its Tic,Toc.

Me saying that to Bill is wrong as I am THE true king of NO progress!! Guess I got a little impatient when a SOA or FI conversion he did took more than a few hours.:D :D

I am kinda disappointed in the lack of updates/progress of the newest wheeler in his stable though.

:laughing:

"Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Littering and... littering and..."

I love super troopers!

Got tis done on monday but just now had time to post up. Here is the seat base loosely installed. I was kinda joking about pulling it out for camp chairs. Its a pain to get in and out cuz its got tight tolerances. Plus, the seats weigh 35lbs each. It would get pretty unweildly trying to move them around.

Looks pretty good meow.

Looks pretty good meow.


"DO YOU BOYS LIKE MEXXIIICOO?!!"

High steer arms made it on today.very nice arms and they fit perfectly.thanks D&C!

Screwed up 10ft of tube tonight:mad:I hung it up and went to work.I'll try again tomorrow when I'm clear headed.

Gotten a lot done the last few days. seats are in permanent along with belts.

Diesel Smoke came over today and we started on the FI swap. Lots of wire and its pretty intimidating. everything is funny cuz its a 4 banger. TB.

where we left the FI for today. I have to shoot bill a PM or 5 about some stuff. Maybe I can get it to sputter tomorrow.

Got the cell in too. Just gotta throw some grade 8's at it and hook up the lines.

Looks pretty good meow.



"DO YOU BOYS LIKE MEXXIIICOO?!!"


Burrrrrpppppp....

I am all that is man!!!


How many gallons is that fuel cell? I'm eagerly watching your FI progess as my 196 may get the same treatment...that is if I can convnice myself to allow a computer in the rig! :eek:

I'm eagerly watching your FI progess as my 196 may get the same treatment...that is if I can convnice myself to allow a computer in the rig! :eek:

Your truck will love ya for it!!

I really want a FIed 196 powered 8OO as I feel my SD33T dreams will never happen.

Do it!!

Diesel Smoke came over today and we started on the FI swap. Lots of wire and its pretty intimidating. everything is funny cuz its a 4 banger. TB.

Its not that bad. IIRC there are only like 30 wires and about 6 or so is a ground.

Most guys have that many wires in there stereo systems and it doesnt seem to bother them.:D

Its just wires!! Point A to B.:)

Your progress with this project is second only to Bill's builds!! Do you sleep either??

Keep wrenchin!

Its not that bad. IIRC there are only like 30 wires and about 6 or so is a ground.

Most guys have that many wires in there stereo systems and it doesnt seem to bother them.:D

Its just wires!! Point A to B.:)

Your progress with this project is second only to Bill's builds!! Do you sleep either??

Keep wrenchin!

I already FI'd the 196 in the comp truck. It took lots of help and lots of time. I'm hoping I learned something and can bang this one out in less than a year :rolleyes:

I work graveyard and I have an uncanny knack for getting by on 3hrs of sleep for weeks. Ever see the 'sienfeld' episode where Kramer slept for 45 minutes and was a wake for 4 hrs, on a rotation? Thats me.

A little more done today. Mandy got the drive shafts in and the front hubs/rotors ready for bearings. I ran fuel lines, installed the pump/filter, stared at more wires, and generally felt helpless reading the wire pinouts over and over.

I forgot... the mandatory buildup poser pic of an empty tire next to a rig on jackstands.

37" mtrs, btw:rolleyes:

Is that a PTO?

I already FI'd the 196 in the comp truck. It took lots of help and lots of time. I'm hoping I learned something and can bang this one out in less than a year :rolleyes:

I work graveyard and I have an uncanny knack for getting by on 3hrs of sleep for weeks. Ever see the 'sienfeld' episode where Kramer slept for 45 minutes and was a wake for 4 hrs, on a rotation? Thats me.

A little more done today. Mandy got the drive shafts in and the front hubs/rotors ready for bearings. I ran fuel lines, installed the pump/filter, stared at more wires, and generally felt helpless reading the wire pinouts over and over.


Maybe this will help!!

panic button (http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48769)
I also replied to your thread on JIH

Is that a PTO?

Why yes. It ran the original Ramsey 8k winch. My plan was to run the OD inbetween the T-case and winch but have abandoned that idea in favor of a conventional electric winch. PTO assembly is for sale.

Picked up these boys today. Dutchman inners.

Bling!

Picked up these boys today. Dutchman inners.

Where's the pic of what goes on the other side??:grinpimp:

Got the front end all put together finally. Dutchman inners, warn outers, aussie locker, premiums. I'm running the same wheel bearings front and rear now, along with brake parts. Only difference is the rear is a 30 spline outer so i still have to carry 2 different hubs.

EFI is 95% done. Need to get a new TPS to replace the one I broke:shaking: and weld in the o2 bung and she is ready to fire and not run and give me days of headache till I just swap a carb back on:D

Looking good Danno....

It might be an optical illusion...but have you cut and turn yet? Can't remember but you going to have clearance issues on your high steer arms? Going to run a spacer and long stud?

Can't wait to see this thing in Naches this year...or my fat ass down in TSF.

HoS

Looking good Danno....

It might be an optical illusion...but have you cut and turn yet? Can't remember but you going to have clearance issues on your high steer arms? Going to run a spacer and long stud?

Can't wait to see this thing in Naches this year...or my fat ass down in TSF.

HoS
Thanks

I'm not sure about the arms yet.I didn't cut and turn.right now I have 7*of pinion angle and 4*of caster.it won't bother me to run a little spacer.if I do its only gonna be 1/2 inch or so.

Is there a nachese run this year?I'll be in the TSF all summer if you want to run this end of the PNW.

Got more done today. Good progress on the FI. It RUNS! After some rough running early on it idled up and ran about 1100rpm. It still has a stock v8 350 chip so I was amaized it ran so good, being a 4cyl and all the other crap not hooked up. If you look close you can see the 'umbrella' of fuel.

Got the ford box ported and put back together.

this is where good ideas come back and bite your ass. I moved the axle forward 2 inches. Now with the ford box mocked up you can see the drag link is gonna run into the pitman arm. I cant move the axle back cuz I have my driveshaft made for this length. the only options I have are... move the box farther forward, replace the guts with guts that steer the other direction and spin the pitman arm forward, or get a frod box with a shorter sector shaft. #1 and 3 sound like the most viable options. What do you guys think? Any ideas?

BTW, those are pieces of steel im using for mockup, not my tie rod or draglink:rolleyes:

Look into a Jeep PS box...

One off a Waggy or CJ.

They don't hang down as far...
Here is a pic of mine when I got it:

I really liked the idea of the ford box being semi-bolt on. I'm running out of time. I think I can move it forward about 4" and up 2" without a ton of mods. I'm not a super fan of the hangdown but I think I can incorporate a gaurd of some sort into my front bumper. I'm still gonna look into swapping guts and spinning the arm around.

what's it cost, $60 to have a driveline shortened? I'd either go that route or the other box..

After weighing the pros and cons of each one I decided to stay with my mondo sector shaft ford box and move it forward some to clear the drag link. It was already ported so I fabbed up some ugly ass mount but it should be more than enough to keep the bx on. Especially with a ram doing some of the work. Dont have time to mount the ram for this trip but its on the top of my to-do list when I get back.

Here is the arrangement now. Much better.

BTW, my welds dont look that shitty in person. Bad lighting or something...:shaking:

thats exactlly what the PO did on mine with the ford box. hence the big zit on the front...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/dubd/PC310097.jpg

Yet another reason I stay with the SII box. :grinpimp:

Yet another reason I stay with the SII box. :grinpimp:


It is nice not having interference with the spring..

No interfereance. I put the SII box far enough back it lines up with the steering arm just right. That way I have nothing on the front of the frame, this system puts the box FAR forward, and he could also have interfereance with the spring/pitman arm at flex.

But I've been known to be wrong :emb:.

No interfereance. I put the SII box far enough back it lines up with the steering arm just right. That way I have nothing on the front of the frame, this system puts the box FAR forward, and he could also have interfereance with the spring/pitman arm at flex.

But I've been known to be wrong :emb:.


Correct me if I am wrong but when the pitman arm swings, it swings OVER the spring, right? With the box forward or backward that has nothing to do with spring clearance. I ran the S2 box in my yota, the box mounting was back but the pitman arm still had clearance issues. When I put my box into my scout it will be the jeep style - inside the frame and the pitman arm does NOT cross over the spring at all

Like this one in my last jeep..

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/BAsteering/DSC01093.sized.jpg

this isn't the S2 box so yes it would swing the other way but the drag link is still in the same spot and would hit.. like this..

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/misctoyxover/clearance.sized.jpg

Now with shackles up front and big ol drop hangers it isn't as much of an issue I guess but I like knowing it won't be an issue for sure

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/steeringsuspension/steering_004.jpg

Why do people pitch the box like that? I mean, if you leave it flat, then the pitman arm stays close to the frame, and there isn't clearance problems.

this is where good ideas come back and bite your ass. I moved the axle forward 2 inches. Now with the ford box mocked up you can see the drag link is gonna run into the pitman arm. I cant move the axle back cuz I have my driveshaft made for this length. the only options I have are... move the box farther forward, replace the guts with guts that steer the other direction and spin the pitman arm forward, or get a frod box with a shorter sector shaft. #1 and 3 sound like the most viable options. What do you guys think? Any ideas?

BTW, those are pieces of steel im using for mockup, not my tie rod or draglink:rolleyes:

I should have checked this thread earlier. :shaking: A friend of mine had a similar problem, and he ended up putting his tie rod below the springs. (cast in steering arms) I know, it's low and might get hit, but it was the quick and dirty (and cheap) solution at the time.

Why do people pitch the box like that? I mean, if you leave it flat, then the pitman arm stays close to the frame, and there isn't clearance problems.


that picture is decieving - it barely clears the frame so I could not have pitched it any differently.

No interfereance. I put the SII box far enough back it lines up with the steering arm just right. That way I have nothing on the front of the frame, this system puts the box FAR forward, and he could also have interfereance with the spring/pitman arm at flex.

But I've been known to be wrong :emb:.

the pitman arm on the Ford box clears everything fine. At full left turn I still have an inch or so till I get to the springs. Biggest problem I had with an outside the frame sII box was the tie rod crashing into the bottom of the box. With 7* of caster on 'Red' my tie rod was all dented up from hitting the shaft square on. ended up fawking the threads up on the end of the sector shaft. I didnt want that to happen again. Also, When I started this it was supposed to be a simple upgrade. thats why I ran with it. We'll see the durability by the end of the summer. I'm gonna wheel the hell out of it!

Got a lot done the last few days. i'm getting really close to being done, for now anyway. Tuaras fan really cleans up the engine bay.

Power steering pump bracket. I had a 'universal' mount from speedway or somewhere and used some 3/8's bar to tie it all together. Super solid.

I didnt have the right lid for my air cleaner but I mocked it up. I think i'm gonna fashion up some sort of ram air or cold air induction:laughing:

I had the old lady help today. Shegot the ammo can console installed and it took both of us to get the door on. I ran the last of the brakelines and bled them.

I need to get the driver door on, build my steering stuff(picked up my 3/4x3/4 teflon high miss FK rod ends today) and go over it agai to make sure everything is tight and greased. Still waiting on my rear axle shafts though:mad3: Ordered them 5 weeks ago from dutchman and its been a back and forth deal. I leave on the 14th and my shafts are supposed to be done on the 11th. I love pressure:)

I leave on the 14th and my shafts are supposed to be done on the 11th. I love pressure

You aren't leaving much time to log data and get another chip to ya either!!!

Better get it on the road in FWD!!!

Your not going to a rock crawl comp....your driving 2000 miles!!



No pressure!!!:D

Thanks Bill!

I forgot to mention that tomorrow I'll wire in my cig adapters so I can power my inverter and aldl cable.I'm really banking on driving it Thursday.FWD or not,your gonna have an E-mail brimming with data:)

Hey 2000miles is no big deal.its these kind of adventures that make the best stories and the best reson to take vacation time.I feel bad for the suckers who take vacation time to work around the house:shaking:

I dont know what happened to pirate but its god damn good to be back!

Got lots done the last few days. Steering links are done. The lathe was being used for production so I had to get creative so I invented the " Tiajuana tube clamp II".

Its 1 1/4x 1/4 DOM. Im opening it up for my threaded inserts. 3/4x3/4 FK chromoly high miss rod end.

got them installed and boy are they sexy.

I put the tires on just for fun. I need to trim some but other wise they fit pretty good. Its a shade tall but I think it will settle some.

107"wb, Waggy chief axles, 37x12.5x15 MTR's, 3 1/2" backspacing.

Looks awesome Dan.

But i think you're going to need some sliders!

Now theres an :idea:

THey arent on my list of to-do's for this trip but will be done soon when I get back. Driver door shuts rough cuz the rocker is mashed up into the door:shaking:

I got my shock mounts done today. I need to do the rears but that should go really quick.

Got a lot done the last few days. i'm getting really close to being done, for now anyway. Tuaras fan really cleans up the engine bay.

Aren't those fans designed to be behind the radiator - not in front ?? I know they move some serious air and your motor is not going to be maxing out the system but....

Aren't those fans designed to be behind the radiator - not in front ?? I know they move some serious air and your motor is not going to be maxing out the system but....

Chris,

We have it mounted the same way in Rock Scout and we have to watch the temp, because the fan cools TOO MUCH!:flipoff2:. If we fire up the truck, turn the fans on, it will run really rich because the engine won't heat up. Let the truck heat up, then turn the fan on, and it will cool it really quickly. Time for a thermo switch.

IT RUNS!!! Finally backed it out and took it for a spin. In front wheel drive cuz Dutchman STILL:mad3: isnt done with my rear axle shafts(5 weeks now). Even in front wheel drive and an Aussie it goes really good. Between the FI, 5.13's, and37's it runs and drivers better than it did with a carb, 4.27's, and 31's:D :D I'll post pics when I get home.

STOKED for sure!:smokin:

Sweet:smokin: Glad to hear, as I have been following your build up for a while.

Craig

Between the FI, 5.13's, and37's it runs and drivers better than it did with a carb, 4.27's, and 31's:D :D I'll post pics when I get home.

STOKED for sure!:smokin:
I might have overdone it with 5.89s and 35s. We'll see.

It rained like a son of a bitch so I didnt spend too much time outside but I did a couple high speed:laughing: runs.

OMG! Dan. FANGS FROM HELL!!!!

OMG! Dan. FANGS FROM HELL!!!!

He already labeled them "Buck Teeth" :) . But your right OMG!!!!

Looks like that is a severe shackle angle on the front spring hangers. Maybe a frame extension is in order?
A nice bumper and winch would help too :grinpimp:

i was waiting to see if you'd clean up/paint the engine bay...but i really dig the patina of the whole truck...its like a rat wheeler:grinpimp:

It rained like a son of a bitch so I didnt spend too much time outside but I did a couple high speed:laughing: runs.


Looks a lot like a Commando, IMO. :D

Looks like that is a severe shackle angle on the front spring hangers. Maybe a frame extension is in order?
A nice bumper and winch would help too :grinpimp:

You must not know much about 80's. The winch goes behind the grille, in the factory location. As for a bumper, I'm a minimalist. as per the pic.

i was waiting to see if you'd clean up/paint the engine bay...but i really dig the patina of the whole truck...its like a rat wheeler

Is there any other kind? I have only painted about 20% of the fresh fab work. Rust has its own special color. This truck only has 116K on the ticker. It spent its whole life 100 yards from the ocean.

As for the buckteeth, They arent that bad. the pic really over-exaggerates the angle. I'm hoping they will act like a skid plate and help me glide up and over rocks:laughing:

I started on my tool/gear carrier. I picked up these ammo boxes for CHEAP so I decided why the hell not. i'm setting the rig up so in the event I ditch the skins and run a more buggy set up, im ready. I'll do the tire carrier tomorrow. Still need to make a top bar/lock for the ammo boxes.

Front side of the boxes. Need a center bar like on the rear.

Got the carrier done for the most part. I dont have latches, I just bolted them together. I need to re vamp that and I want to move the tire up a few inches. other than that it was a total high school shop project. Nothing lined up, my copes werent sweet and my welds looked like re-fried dog shit. I'm not thrilled with it but it will work for a while.

If you cant tell, it hinges down like a tailgate so its easy to get the tire off and you dont get killed by an out of controll side swing carrier. Yeah, i know....PSC. So what:flipoff2:

Side shot. I'm gonna try and get a Hi-lift and shovel on there somewhere too.

If you cant tell, it hinges down like a tailgate so its easy to get the tire off and you dont get killed by an out of controll side swing carrier. Yeah, i know....PSC. So what:flipoff2:

So how easy is it to open and shut your "tailgate" without getting a hernia? :D

smoothe tire carrier:smokin:

Sticks out a little far, but :cool: all the same!

...and my welds looked like re-fried dog shit...

Yuck. Now that's a mental image I could'a done without at lunch time! :barf:


...As for a bumper, I'm a minimalist. as per the pic...

I'm a little concerned about them teeth sticking out. If you bop one of them straight on you could easily bust a spring. As someone else stated earlier; Unlike 'fangs', front mounted shackles that stick out will move back when struck and transfer force onto the spring (which is of course rigidly mounted at the rear here). It'd be like dropping your front wheel into a hole while reversing and tagging the shackle against a rock with a RS rig. I'm just web wheeling though... :rolleyes:

I'm a little concerned about them teeth sticking out. If you bop one of them straight on you could easily bust a spring. As someone else stated earlier; Unlike 'fangs' front mounted shackles that stick out will move back and transfer force onto the spring (which is of course rigidly mounted at the rear here). It'd be like dropping your front wheel into a hole while reversing and tagging the shackle against a rock with a RS rig. I'm just web wheeling though... :rolleyes:

The shackles on Rock Scout stick out almost as bad and we have run them up and into quite a few different rocks, used them to knock off chuncks and as a "skid plate" on various course. Haven't had much of a problem with them, sure sometimes they hang us up and we have to try a different line, but it's just one more thing you have to watch out. Dan's pretty comfortable behind the wheel of Rock Scout, and knows full well what out there, so he'll be just as comfortable behind the wheel of this rig.

I just want to thank Dan for bringing some neat tech and a really good buildup thread to the forum.

:beer:

:bounce: :bounce2: :bounce:

Side shot. I'm gonna try and get a Hi-lift and shovel on there somewhere too.

You solved the problem my Scout has --- no room in the trunk. I tried to design something for my spare tire - but with out a bender nothing I thought up looked good enough - you've seen where mine ended up - smack dab in the middle of the bed...

Nice work!

i really dig the patina of the whole truck...its like a rat wheeler:grinpimp:
I like it too. I think it looks kinda funny with the halftop on, like some old farm truck out where it's not supposed to be.

I have been watching this thread because it has given me some good ideas. The ass end of my cage is just like yours, and I was thinking of building a swing out gate (like for your ammo cans) and some kind of tire carrier.

looks pimp you gonna be a goldendale this year?

looks pimp you gonna be a goldendale this year?
Thanks!yeah,we'll be there with the crawler and a few 'upgrades'.and you?

Ill be there with yet again another rig

Well i was away for about a month with limited access but where is the update?
I see it didn't make the big trip but is it done?
Is it driving?

Did you sell it to finance the new project?

How's it run?
Did ya bump the timing back a little with the chip I sent? (told you it was agressive!!!)
And the most important question.....









Did you log any data?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??:shaking:

Yeah, I had to turn it back about 5*. It doesnt ping anymore but now it doesnt like to start cold. It does start, it just takes a couple tries.

No I havent logged any data. I have been busy playing with it and I have a new project to distract me. I'll see if I can figure out why im not getting any info at the plug, butfor now it runs good. i'm happy.

My shafts did come in.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/2530/rearshaft7yr.jpg

Gee, that didn't take too long ;)

Gee, that didn't take too long ;)
What? the update or shafts to arrive?

I have been playing with it a lot. I drive it almost every day.

What? the update or shafts to arrive?

shafts


I have been playing with it a lot. I drive it almost every day.
Good stuff.

I drive it around almost every day. Its fun. The EFI needs a little tweeking and my shock mounts are too short. I want to take a leaf out of the front end and chop about 1 1/2 out of the rear shackle. Get it down a little. It feels pretty good but not near as stable as Rockscout.
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9688/poser5pb.jpg

This was the best I could find the other day. Screwing around at the river. Notice my sweet mud flaps. I hate the cops.

Dude, throw some paint on that thing. Needs some. Looks awesome tho..