Not ones set up like this guys was. We met him here in town and , so he went to Hollister with us. What a day , no spare parts for it . He fix it with a pry bar duck tape to it and drove to town to get it welded!!!!!!! It made it!!!!!!

With a title like that, I'm giving you an automatic 40 points for my course in Reno:flipoff2:

its hard to see..... did he BREAK his "Z"'d draglink??? Hmm, I've heard of them bending, but BREAKING??? :eek:



hee hee duct tape and a pry bar.... worked, but glad I wasn't driving near him....

Hey more info! I'm not dogging you rustoleum but it looks to me that the drag link had a splice in the middle that pulled apart. It probably took more that a welder to straighten that tie rod?
Frametwister- just what is mangled? Might not be able to learn what to do but sure would learn what not to do :D :D

It broke in half , best bet for him was a high steer kit! Big tires, alot of skinny pedal, and "z" draglink dont mix!!!!! I like Scouts I just DONT like people that fix steering with duck tape!

Originally posted by FRAMETWISTER
It broke in half , best bet for him was a high steer kit! Big tires, alot of skinny pedal, and "z" draglink dont mix!!!!! I like Scouts I just DONT like people that fix steering with duck tape!

duck tape???? *quack quack* :D :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by FRAMETWISTER
It broke in half , best bet for him was a high steer kit! Big tires, alot of skinny pedal, and "z" draglink dont mix!!!!! I like Scouts I just DONT like people that fix steering with duck tape!

Just fawking wit cha...sheesh:flipoff2:













































And like Torc said "Quack, quack":D

Originally posted by FRAMETWISTER
It broke in half , best bet for him was a high steer kit! Big tires, alot of skinny pedal, and "z" draglink dont mix!!!!! I like Scouts I just DONT like people that fix steering with duck tape!

It worked diden't it so thats the main thing who cares if he fixed it with some pop cans two chop sticks and a bag of chips with dip as long as he got home :D

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot


It worked diden't it so thats the main thing who cares if he fixed it with some pop cans two chop sticks and a bag of chips with dip as long as he got home :D


Ya Until someone like this takes you out on the road!!

i agree i'd much rather rig my truck back together than leave it somewhere...:skull:

this is where AAA free towing comes in handy.. towed my buddy home after a slice in his bfg mud...

towed my buddy home after a slice in his bfg mud...

Thats why most carry spares... hell I carry two fullsize spares and a highlift jack :flipoff2: ... the jack comes in handy when clowns start messing around the truck too ;)

these z bar drag links are all a bunch a death ride bull shit

I remember seeing one on a scout with 40" tires in one of the big magazines they called it tech

fact is its trash!

with great sources of info like POR still running this kinda crap deserves the ridacule it gets.

Ok, z links are trash???? Not any worse than the stock junk, bent alot of those when I was SUA!!!! sure Highsteer is the best option, but till i find some 8 stud flat tops and get time to make a arm, i'm gunna run one. If you think they are dangerous, then head for da ditch when ya see a tan/black,grey sII headed your way!!! I'm not sayin z links are the best setup. That said, they work. Just my .02

Originally posted by muskyman
these z bar drag links are all a bunch a death ride bull shit

I remember seeing one on a scout with 40" tires in one of the big magazines they called it tech

fact is its trash!

with great sources of info like POR still running this kinda crap deserves the ridacule it gets.

I think POR is going to you head DAN.

Hi-steer on a Scout is not easy to pull off and is big dollars. Z-links have been around since the SOA. Done correctly no problem.

Originally posted by jdjanda


I think POR is going to you head DAN.

Hi-steer on a Scout is not easy to pull off and is big dollars. Z-links have been around since the SOA. Done correctly no problem.


keep telling your self this if it makes you feel better


z-bars are trash!!!!!!!



























































































































still trash!

Originally posted by muskyman



keep telling your self this if it makes you feel better


z-bars are trash!!!!!!!


I'd like to know what you are basing your opinion on? Experience with a Z-link gone bad? Are you running and an SOA or SUA on your rig?

Originally posted by jdjanda


I'd like to know what you are basing your opinion on? Experience with a Z-link gone bad? Are you running and an SOA or SUA on your rig?

Friends don't let friends use AOL :flipoff2:

http://members.aol.com/thommathie/myhomepage/mvc-006s.jpg?mtbrand=AOL_US

built my first soa scout 20 years ago ...used a z bar

it broke....re built it stronger


it broke


used really beefy dom tube. tig welded braces on it , got it all dialed in , worked just fine for awhile .

i checked it all the time. then unexpectadly while going down a steep hill . caught the outside of a tire on a rock it broke again.

guess I'm a little harsh on them

but with all the options these days why not do it right?

the same guys that want to scimp on steering will sell everthing to get the right locker?

to me steering is not somewhere scimp or "get by"

I guess the point I'm trying to get at here, what setup are you running? Hi-steer is not that easy to do properly, you have to have the knuckles milled flat, new links built, etc, and clearances are exceptionally tight due the short outer knuckle assembly on the Scout's. Z-link is an acceptable solution, as far as breakage, Josh C had a factory tie-rod shear a Ball Joint off, so where is the real danger, really not related to the Z-link he is running. Besides Hi-steer, and Z-link what other solutions are there for SOA Scouts? What about HEIMS, although not DOT approved, do you frown upon those also?

Joe

Originally posted by jdjanda
I Josh C had a factory tie-rod shear a Ball Joint off,

Joe

How the fuk does a Tie rod remove a ball joint???





















I'm with Musky Z links are just a cheap way out.

Originally posted by JoshC


Friends don't let friends use AOL :flipoff2:

http://members.aol.com/thommathie/myhomepage/mvc-006s.jpg?mtbrand=AOL_US

oh I know aol sucks

but what can you do?

local area has crazy intralata local phone rates

no dsl or other options so aol gets 22.50 a month outa me?

guess isp is my weak link

better then having a zbar as the weak link

aol to the best of my knowledge wont kill you

Originally posted by jdjanda
I guess the point I'm trying to get at here, what setup are you running? Hi-steer is not that easy to do properly, you have to have the knuckles milled flat, new links built, etc, and clearances are exceptionally tight due the short outer knuckle assembly on the Scout's. Z-link is an acceptable solution, as far as breakage, Josh C had a factory tie-rod shear a Ball Joint off, so where is the real danger, really not related to the Z-link he is running. Besides Hi-steer, and Z-link what other solutions are there for SOA Scouts? What about HEIMS, although not DOT approved, do you frown upon those also?

Joe


I have heims in my system...they are way way stronger then any stock ball joint.

and mine are attached to the end of straight dom tube

have not had any problem with them

show me where heims are banned by dot?

yes hy-steer is not as easy as it is on other vehicles

but when its done correctly it has straight links that wont fail when you or a onlookers life may be in the balence

Dam you guys are embassassing!

here are ball joints!

Originally posted by Old Scout
Dam you guys are embassassing!

here are ball joints!

Bite me, you knew what I meant, let me go back, "find and replace" TRE for Ball Joint :D

Where is you 2 cents on this debate, you almost never miss a chance to add to the debate. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by jdjanda




Where is you 2 cents on this debate, you almost never miss a chance to add to the debate. :flipoff2:

I'll wait untill to guys start talking about Z link tie rods! :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

never have i seen a z-link tie rod

but have made a bunch of them u or v shaped

then I went to heims and dom tube and it will be straight long after I die