tranny with lower first gear for 1.3L?

[mud-magnet]

well are there any trannys that will bolt up the the 1.3L with a lower first gear? i want to get a better crawl but even with a 4.16 case and 5.13:1 i'll only be at 77:1 or so...... i know some of you have over 100:1 so what do you use??? i think AZcrawler has 160:1 am i right? what does he run???
well thanks guys:
-Mike

[Root Moose]

Originally posted by mud-magnet
well are there any trannys that will bolt up the the 1.3L with a lower first gear? i want to get a better crawl but even with a 4.16 case and 5.13:1 i'll only be at 77:1 or so...... i know some of you have over 100:1 so what do you use??? i think AZcrawler has 160:1 am i right? what does he run???
well thanks guys:
-Mike

Doesn't exist Newbie.:flipoff2:

Chris is getting his gearing through the t-case and axles.

You could in theory adapt a T5 with a 4:1 first or maybe an NV3500 (~3.8). There are Toyota trannies with lower firsts as well. SOS makes an adater to make to the 1600 block (I think). Maybe OTT does as well. I don't think it is worth the effort/expense.

If you want lower gearing you'd need to swap out your t-case for something that is lower (GRS II, RGRS, Sumo, etc.) or stack a set of toy cases.

Run the 77:1 first and see if you need lower. I doubt you will in N.S.

r@m

[mud-magnet]

Originally posted by Root Moose


Doesn't exist Newbie.:flipoff2:


r@m


what the hell???????? i've been a wheeler longer than you.........new wheeler:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: must be a friend of John F...........:D
i'll be running the 5.13 and a 84 case first which will be about 52:1 or so.........cause i don't want o buy a 4.16 if i might have to get lower........very few zukis here so i wouldn't get my money back........
so what does AZrun to get that much crawl??? and whats the T-5 out of??????
-Mike

[zukiboy]

i'm running that exact set up right now....4.16 and 5.13's.....77 overall......with 33's it's ok in the woods but i would like to be somewhere around 110-120 in the rocks....thinkin about gettin the 6:1's once i get the mooooolaa

[mud-magnet]

how is it on the road zukikid? is it to low? thanks:
-Mike

[Root Moose]

Originally posted by mud-magnet
how is it on the road zukikid? is it to low? thanks:
-Mike

Ha!

Do the math...

Depending on which 5th gear ratio he has in it he's either doing ~4600RPM or ~4200RPM at 100 km/h.

r@m

[zukiboy]

it's a trailer queen......no tags no signals no brake lights:flipoff2:
plus i gots the 1.6 16v.....that thing will rev everybit of 6500:nuke:

[Root Moose]

Originally posted by mud-magnet

i'll be running the 5.13 and a 84 case first which will be about 52:1 or so.........cause i don't want o buy a 4.16 if i might have to get lower........very few zukis here so i wouldn't get my money back........
so what does AZrun to get that much crawl??? and whats the T-5 out of??????
-Mike

First off, you don't need to buy a 4.16 case. With the `84 case you have the parts required to make a 4.16 case. You need another "regular" Sam case.

I think Chris is running a 6:1 case and Toy axles plus he has a Klune on the way. Or something like that. Can't remember. Check his web site.

T5 comes in various cars, Ford, GM, Nissan, etc. You need to do some mixing and matching to get the 4:1 first gear in a short tranny. Lots of variants. IMO, not worth the effort for such a minor gain. Be different if you were swapping in a ford V6 or a GM 2.8/3.4.

Regear the t-case if you need the gearing. Go with the 4:1 case and then go from there.

r@m

[mud-magnet]

i know about cutting them and all..........but with cape breton being such a small place and mostly country area........theres no machine shops.......

[Root Moose]

Originally posted by mud-magnet
i know about cutting them and all..........but with cape breton being such a small place and mostly country area........theres no machine shops.......

So send them out...

Contact Paul Easley at Silver Bullet Enterprises. Tell him I sent you - he'll take good care of you. :)

r@m

[Rockrat]

Hey Mike I do belive that Chris is running toy 5:29 gears and a GRS 2 the 4:89 so i dont belive that comes to 160:1 or what ever you thought it was.

[DannyL]

Mud send them to Breeze in BC to have done.....

[Azrckcrawler]

GRS 2 + 5.29's = 94:1 which is definately not low enough for traversing waterfalls with 35" tires. It felt pretty good with my 33's but these tires are just over an inch taller and boy did it make a difference. I thought about a 6:1, even emailed Dave about avalability a month ago, I'd be waiting a while for a marginally better crawl ratio (117:1). Only way deeper is to add another case which is what I am looking into at the moment. Someone suggested running dual toy cases using one of OTT's divorced t-case adapters. I am guessing I'd need to have my intermediate driveshaft shortened and then fab up some mounts for the t-cases. So far I haven't found anyone who has tried this with a 1.3 and stock tranny.I may just wait and check out Oilburners Klune in Moab, I'll most likely be ordering one that evening from the campground :D Quite honestly 94:1 seemed sufficent for everything (like the picture below), except for really steep climbs.



http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2002/3-02armageddon/Dscn0410.jpg

[mud-magnet]

ok, i thought i read that you had a 160:1........o well....... i'd like to get mine around 90 or so........but i think i'll have to go with a 77 for a while........
-Mike.......topic closed.......thanks