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Would you drive off this at this angle?

Depends, am I driving your rig or mine ;) :beer:

hell yeah. id just re-tighten my seatbelt, adjust myself in the seat, tell my passenger to keep all limbs inside the cage, check my fall line, and GO!!!

how scary was it lance?

edit: looking at it more, i would probably straighten the wheels and then go over at an angle. but it depends how many beers i had before that :D

My passenger is looking at me right about then and saying, "DUDE..... We ARE going to roll if we do this!" :D

sure in your cruiser, but it would be floating the valves before the front tire made it off that ledge. and i bet it would be a 50/50 chace of making it.

hell, I think I would have the balls to take that line....not many people would though.


I don't see a problem with it...you didn't roll did ya?

notice the 4x4TV camera mounted in between us.... :cool2:

I would go for it!

So what happened next?

Well I did go for it... I put it in second, and revved it up and sidestepped the clutch. Launched off that fawker! :D

now thats wheeling, i hope you didn't spill your beer.

I like the line you picked. I would try it but my ass would be tight as hell. No roll looks like you had a good line and the width was a big factor! I hope I can see it on video...

in that rig.... Yes.... in mine maybe if i'm going fast enugh

If slowing down won't help, den JUICE IT!!!!

So what was the pucker factor?

BTW congrats on kick'n some arse at ARCA :beer:

I am too much of a chicken. Maybe I would have done that if I saw someone else pull it off first, and the landing area was flat and safe meaning no possibility of a barrel roll down a canyon. My guess is this is why you were spotting instead of driving at the rcaa event.

Originally posted by jdjanda
So what was the pucker factor?


Well I was a little iffy because I wasn't sure if the tires would hook up well enough off the clutch dump to launch me to the bottom without rolling. They hooked up juuust fine. :D Another shameless plug for CTM - Notice the wheels are almost at full lock when I did my full throttle clutch dump in 2nd gear. ;)

Looks like a good place for an ARB and cutting brakes. Unlock the rear and brake the rt rear and just pivot it around and down off there straight.

in a standard gravity environment? no.

in an environment w/ minimal gravity and no consequences for abnormal actions? yes.

:D

so dija make it lance?

Originally posted by flimmy
Looks like a good place for an ARB and cutting brakes. Unlock the rear and brake the rt rear and just pivot it around and down off there straight.

I would have to agree here. Although I like to SEE the "GUN-IT" approach, I don't like to DO it.

I try to be as much of a finess wheeler as possible.

Well I guess that I am :rainbow: because from looking at that picture I would say no, I wouldn't do it. :( Of course I don't compete so I would probably find a way down with less of a drop off or do a 78 point turn until I was straight. :rasta:

Just bein' honest...

Judging by the size of tire at about 3 feet, I'd say that is about a 4-5 foot drop. :eek: I'm no stranger to rolling. With all the proper gear and safety stuff taken care of, go for it! BTW, launch in second gear? I gotta see that on film. Especially from the in cab cam. What video will that be on? :smokin:

Not sure I would punch it but rather lock the rear and plop the front down...did a power line run in Phoenix near the White Tank Mountains and damn near rolled it by trying to turn with the rear brakes locked and the front stearing and pulling it was real easy the second time....might just do the lin lock on both rear's...just need to find a switch that's unused.....

First off, lance don't tell them yet.....:D

Next, sorry guys you'll have to buy the video or for you norcal guys, (silly) you'll have to at least show up for the video preimere party.

Thank you very much
Rich

PS To answer lance's question, NO ....thats why I promote the events, so I can Live thru the competitors :D :D :D

yes....but I have a long history of bad choices:D

sure why the hell not. thats what it was built for, besides it looks like it could be a trailer rig soon anyway. wish i had been in there.

Originally posted by Lance


Would you drive off this at this angle? <FONT COLOR="Yellow"><FONT size="2">hell yes





































not in my jeep thoe</FONT s></FONT c>:flipoff2:

For those of you telling me I should have used cutting brakes, I did. That's how I got at least that lined up. If you'll notice, the front passenger tire is ready to go off the ledge. The back tires began sliding at this point. In fact, in the picture Im shifting the tcase back into 4wd. Sure, I could have backed up and gotten a better line, but that would have costed a point. EVERY point counts! :p

It was really something standing there watching that, the look on Lances face.....no fear, no doubt he just sat there a second and I could almost hear him telling himself "Ok, you got's ta hammer it, come on now it's time to get it" Then WHAM, down went the throttle, man that was purdy:D

Hell yeah,..Id grab 3rd, run it up to 2000 rpm, dump the clutch and mash the pedal,..... But only if my junk was still running,.....and, I had been invited to participate on the second day.

That was very cool watching you do that, manuever.

Unfortunately, that was one of those courses that Terry, had the advantage of watching you go first, he almost Xeroxed your moves through that course.

Judging from that picture it is hard to say. Depends on what's out past that little stop sign. I'd probably do it though.

oh just come on up to NWRCA.. Dropoffs about twice that height. In fact that is what their whole event is about....

Hey Lance you know I would do it.....It's only paint right? My brother gets me to do things like that all the time. So how does it feel to spot someone on their lid instead of being the driver on their lid? Congrats on the win. Next time throw some dirt on Mike so he atleast looks like he worked for the win......His Summit suit was toooooo clean....

Originally posted by SNORTclown
oh just come on up to NWRCA.. Dropoffs about twice that height. In fact that is what their whole event is about....


Oh yeah, Ive seen pics and short film clips:eek:
You guys are nuts up there.
I think it would be a blast, to come up and wheel with the SNORT guys on your turf.
I think Im gonna try to make it up to the NWRCA event next year, I just dont have enough vacation time to do it this year. This wheelin stuff, is becoming a full time job, of its own.:rasta:

I would do it in my rig, but in yours, i would have done exactly what you did. In order to crawl off of something that steep, you need a rig with mainly front flex, yours flexes mainly in the back. If you had dropped that pass. tire, the weight would have gone with it, and endo'd, but if your suspension was opposite what it is now, you could have made it without the heavy launch.

With that said, hell yeah!! i would do that in a stocker!!

you fawkin dumped the clutch THERE! That takes some cahones! I'd be chicken or crawl and roll LOL

Dump clutch, damn..

how did you even think to do that? I'd like a pic from further back. It definately looks as if you were not the first to go, how did others do it?

Originally posted by 9-Volt
hell yeah. id just re-tighten my seatbelt, adjust myself in the seat, tell my passenger to keep all limbs inside the cage, check my fall line, and GO!!!

how scary was it lance?

edit: looking at it more, i would probably straighten the wheels and then go over at an angle. but it depends how many beers i had before that :D

so you drink and drive alot??

your fawkin getting old woth your coool chi8me ins!!

first it is no coils with aerostar, then standing up for reverse/standard rotation,l then coils suck... y not go home before your think you know anything
and not fawk our whit up

nice to see your into wheelin but damn!!!!!!

Heck yeah, Id do it, even in my jeep, the faster the better.. :)
Scott

hell, just take it slow......drop the front tires off the ledge at the same time and hope that you have enough rear flex to keep you on your feet...


that's my thoery at least...if you were slippin...hey, gun it and pray!

Hummm ... you must own a cat ...

When in doubt...gas it out

My first time at the badlands (it was the first time I wheeled after going coil-over/link) I got spooked and launched off a huge fawk'n ledge in 2nd or 3rd gear, probably 10' of near vertical then a gentle slope for about 30-40'...I made a perfect landing, :) Sweet !
Then I hit a basketball sized rock and put a 4" ding in my front beadlock...fawk

Since then I've launched off some pretty spooky shit.

first answer: yeah, I'd do that.
second answer, after being informed of a video camera on board: hell yeah! But I would've floated the valves!

speaking of hella video...Does anybody have the first NWRCA vid? (I need a copy....Hear it's better than last year) Skyetone@aol.com

So, where's the next pic with some air???

Lance, you've got balls the size of church bells.

fuck you austin. if you wanna talk shit why dont you do it to my face in PMs or email so that i actually have a chance of reading it, asshole. :rolleyes:

We need video! Rich, where do I get one? In the mean time, Rich how about a video capture of lance ledge jumpin' posted to the net for us? Make a great "preview" of your video - might sell lots of them?

Phil

From some of the previews I've seen this is going to be a great tape......

I'll see what I can get the producer to do about a little film release of Lance's launch.

Rich

Originally posted by Big Rich
From some of the previews I've seen this is going to be a great tape......

I'll see what I can get the producer to do about a little film release of Lance's launch.

Rich

Thanks Rich - highlights would be good for sales I think. I will consider buying it.

Phil

Originally posted by Cliffhanger
Depends, am I driving your rig or mine ;) :beer:

My thoughts exactly.:D :D :D :D

to answer your question.....no


i was suprised when you did it. scared me just watching :D

Originally posted by camo
to answer your question.....no


i was suprised when you did it. scared me just watching :D


ya, uh huh, sure... :rolleyes:


but lance did a great performance :D

Originally posted by camo

i was suprised when you did it. scared me just watching :D

hehe I scared camo. neener neeener neeeeener... :D

Originally posted by 9-Volt
fuck you austin. if you wanna talk shit why dont you do it to my face in PMs or email so that i actually have a chance of reading it, asshole. :rolleyes:

Bwaha like you just did??
on a totally unrelated thread?
Oh this must have been in responce to a totally different thread that you didn't get a chance to read..:rolleyes:

with all your responces telling people their Ideas totally suck then asking a simple question yourself 2 days later, you need to maybe have some consistency...maybe put your bed against the wall so you only roll off the good side!!!

Have a wonderful day!

also since this ain't chat this is all I'm gonna say - sorry people..

someone post the video link when (if) it gets prerealesed!!

The most heart last phrase of an okie...............hold my beer and watch this!!!! hell yes i would drive off of it!!

Depends on the situation. If it was in competition, yes. If it was on a run, probably not ;)

Originally posted by Curtis
Depends on the situation. If it was in competition, yes. If it was on a run, probably not ;)



Thats a fact.
You have to know that if it wasnt a competition, lance could have backed up a few times and crawled right off of it.
But too be there and see how well, Lance ran the number 1 obstacle just before this one, you could see, that he was really turning up the heat, on his own expectations. You also need to remember, that he only had the count, of 1,..........2,..........3,..."Launch", before it would have cost him the same as a back-up. It was very cool! to watch it, play out.

Oh and anyone who thinks they could have crawled down from that angle, with anything but a very light/low rig, and a 200 lb spotter on the end of a rope, doesnt realize how off camber and steep it is....(but a spotter on a rope, would have cost 5 points not gained by the ride along). Nope, the way lance did it, was the only way to do it.

Jeff I love your reponses....:D If your ever want to become a writer let me know.

Rich

Originally posted by Big Rich
Jeff I love your reponses....:D If your ever want to become a writer let me know.

Rich

I, love, all, of, his, commas,,,,,,, :flipoff2: :D:D:D:D

Lance if you had to do it again would you do anything different?

Originally posted by Air Bag
Lance if you had to do it again would you do anything different?

Add nitrous. :D :nuke:

Ok, lance, Jeff, needs, help, with, editing, but, that's, your, job,.
Rich

Originally posted by Big Rich
Ok, lance, Jeff, needs, help, with, editing, but, that's, your, job,.
Rich


The ,,,,,,'s are there to evoke, a deliberate pause, thus building anticipation. Damn everyones a,,,,,, critic. :flipoff2: ,
Now if I could just add a "," or 2, to my driving style, maybe Id have a rig left at the end of course number 1 on day 1.


I think Lance was also making sure that Kevin was well aware of the pace, that the team needed to maintane, when he strapped him in the passenger seat, and pushed the envelope. In any case, Lance's determination, definitely lit a fire under his already whipped looking spotter, and Kevin, really started to look good as a spotter, after that run.

Your Nuts!
GODDDDDDD where are the surban white guys i want to order the video, can we pre-order? the last Calroc' video was neat!, even my mom like watching it

Originally posted by welndmn
Your Nuts!
GODDDDDDD where are the surban white guys i want to order the video, can we pre-order? the last Calroc' video was neat!, even my mom like watching it


I am deffinitely getting this event video.
Friday, had lots of action.
Saturday was incredible for carnage, rollovers, and non stop action.
Sunday, the top drivers really showed their experience, and made you well aware, that it is very much a "Driver's Sport".
My mom actualy came out to watch the event on Saturday, and is hooked as a spectator, now.

Jeff your economical use of ,,,,,,'s and the flourishing use of vocabulary have again impressed the masses. Please continue to entertain us.
Rich

So I gotta bring back this thread. Lance obviously made it. I really want the video for this event and also the NWRCA video. Where to get them?
Travis,
Mogified XJ

Originally posted by Lance


hehe I scared camo. neener neeener neeeeener... :D

yeah yeah.. suuuuurreeeeee........... I bet Lance was spooked a little at the idea. (at least a little) and during the heat of competition, just said fawk it, sucked up the seat cover and floored it.

would I do it for daily wheeling? fawk that... competition? Well.. I've done some stupid sh!t to try to gain points... that probably could have been included in it.

Originally posted by Lance
notice the 4x4TV camera mounted in between us.... :cool2:

SUWEEET DUDE!!!
when will it be on??? I want an in cab view!!!
oop nevermind, I read the whole thread :D

You know, I would have pulled up to it, and said "Nah, I'll pass".

Then my idiot buddies would have tried to give me the pink panty award and would stand around going "No, dude, seriously, I think you can do it".

I woulda dun it! :D

Lance,

I hope you didn't think that was the scarriest spot on the course for the weekend. Like all Roggy courses, most spots seemed like life or death. The twin rocks on stage 3 for Sunday way the worst. The clock's ticking away, your spotters yelling " don't go, your ganna kill us." Hey, if I get hurt then I get a ride the that 1946 helicopter to the hospital. What's wrong with that ?


See ya,

tony k
;)

hell yeah. id just re-tighten my seatbelt, adjust myself in the seat, tell my passenger to keep all limbs inside the cage, check my fall line, and GO!!!


my thought exactally :rasta:

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Not me! Nu uh! No way!! mmMM Mmm! Nope!

I'm not that brave yet....

I'd try it! You only live once!

I laugh.....:flipoff2: Still owe you one Lance ;)

Mike-

HELL YEAH I'D DO IT. Also,250 shot of naws would make the experience that much more exciting.

If I had the confidence that Lance has? Yah....I'd do it. Unfortunately, at this point when wheeling, I don't. Maybe one day.

Lance you are the definition of grace under pressure - I'd be shittin' a brick at that point!

Good work - I can see why your winnin' the comps! :D Can't wait for the video!

In competition with a well set-up rig, I'd probably go for it. On any ordinary weekend, backing up is free. :D

Then again....

I did do something similiar, tho un-intentional on a night run once. After watching several Jeeps in front of me go down this hill and getting rather tippy, I decided to cut into the turn earlier... As I was going down the hill, I found out why everyone else was going wide... fawking 3' to 4' drop off :eek: I was told that both of my back wheels came off the ground (CJ-5's are SHORT!) All I did is give it plenty of skinny pedal until I was down in the wash. Oh, yea, I was also told that my eyes were bigger than my headlights.

Would I do it again? Hell Fawkin' NO! :flipoff2: I wouldn't have done it the first time if I'd seen where I was going. :D

In competition... yeah, probably, but I doubt that I would've done it as well as (from hearing everyone describe it) you did. Prolly would have been more like:
drop the right front
wheelstand the truck on the right front
drop the right rear (f'n boggers)
scrape both axles down sideways
bounce on the right side prior to either settling or rolling
keep driving (if the truck is still running and/or upright)

I don't have the gerbilpower to hammer down and drive through--all I can do is crawl.