I was boneyard shoping the other day and came across a 8.8 axle
I thought was from a newer Explorer. It has the disc brake set up on it. When I asked about it the yard's owner said it came out of a, Lincoln Mark, series car. He would not allow me to take the cover off but I did get a mesurement on the WMS it came out to 63"

Does any one have info on the spline count of this aetup?
Or using it for a YJ axle swap.

Might want to PM T-bone, he has one sitting around right now.

I found the answer on a Google search.
the axle has 28 spline with disc brakes.

http://www.powertrax.com/lincolnlr.pdf

I Think it's too weak for a good swap.

I have this axle in mine. I put dutchman alloys 31 spline w/detroit and 4.88's, drilled the rotors to 5on5.5 and love it to death. When I hit the breaks (after taking the rubber ring out of my porportioning valve) it stops on a friggen dime with 36" tsl radials. Go for it, you can always go high pinion on it if you want also. By the way, emergency brakes too. my .02

By the way, it is large bearing and yes only 27 spline Stock.


BlueYJ :cool2:

you can always go high pinion on it if you want also

How the hell do you go high pinion on an 8.8:question:

I was boneyard shoping the other day and came across a 8.8 axle

Thanks

Looks like I need to do some research on the 8.8
Large bearing / small
High pinion

Sounds like a ford 9

Hey sorry for any confusion, I am talking about a 9" out of a late model Mark IV. That is what I used.

BlueYJ :cool2:

They didn't use 9in in later mdl MK's. They have been 8.8 since around the late 70s or early 80s. I have one out of an 84 MK 7. It is a 27 spline 8.8 with rear disks. You can upgrade it to a 31 spline with new outer bearings from an explorer. I have mine because it was only $25 from the boneyard. If you have to pay much for it you are better off starting with the 31 spline 8.8 from an explorer. the boneyards around here want $350 for them. It would cost me that much plus time to get the mk 7 8.8 to the 31 spline. They do make 8.8 rr gears, but they are made to be put in a high pinion 9in housing (and as I just found out, 8.8 fronts). You can not "flip" the housing to use the rr gears.

You can not "flip" the housing to use the rr gears

OMFG you're kidding. Thanks for the info, we all thought it was OK to do that:rolleyes:

By the way they used 9" rears in the lincoln Mark XX from 74-79 w/disc brakes.

Again I was talking about the 9" and going high pinion. Not a 8.8, no such thing.

BlueYJ

Originally posted by BlueYJ
By the way they used 9" rears in the lincoln Mark XX from 74-79 w/disc brakes.

Again I was talking about the 9" and going high pinion. Not a 8.8, no such thing.

BlueYJ

I was going to say....... I just bought a 78 Mark V with 460/C6/9" rear axle with discs and hydroboost brakes for $50 from my sister-in-law. :D :D :D Haven't quite figured out how to stuff the engine in my TJ yet tho. Too bad I've already been working on a GM 14 bolt rear axle too.

Originally posted by BlueYJ

... high pinion. Not a 8.8, no such thing.

BlueYJ

Where do you suppose they get those rev. rotation gearsets?? FORD EXPLORERS use 8.8 reverse rotation ring and pinion sets. Currie doesn't cut "custom" gears. those are oem ford 8.8 front gears. there is "such a thing"

Thanks for all the help
I went buy today to check on a price
he wants $150 for the rear.
I'm thinking now it may be cheaper and easier to
wait on a explorer 8.8

But a axle buildup would be fun

hey Aggro, the 8.8 is not high pinion and cant be, and I am very aware that this is what is used in the 9" RC high pinion.

BlueYJ

Originally posted by BlueYJ
By the way they used 9" rears in the lincoln Mark XX from 74-79 w/disc brakes.

BlueYJ

What's the WMS to WMS on that thing?

I've done some looking and have read the 76-79 Lincoln Versailles, Ford Granada and Mercury Monarch had a 9" with discs. I think they came 5x4.5 too and are 58.5" wide. Any third member will work and you can even add 31 spline axles. You'll be fighting stangers and other Ford builders for them though.

I am curious.
Is there a write up on this brake O ring removal
you have been talking about?

Originally posted by BlueYJ
hey Aggro, the 8.8 is not high pinion and cant be, and I am very aware that this is what is used in the 9" RC high pinion.

BlueYJ

The 8.8s must be used in some front application if the elocker is listing it's going to be released for 8.8s f&r. And like he said, I can't imagine Currie's making their own gears for this. Sounds like a call to Randy's is in order when they open.

Bryan

Originally posted by BlueYJ
hey Aggro, the 8.8 is not high pinion and cant be, and I am very aware that this is what is used in the 9" RC high pinion.

BlueYJ

Dude! read your post. You contradict youself in 1 single post. The 8.8 you may be referring to may not ba a hi pinion, but oem 8.8 ring and pinion gears came in reverse rotation. That is a fact. They may never have come in a rear, but oem 8.8 hi pinion is a commonly used gearset in smaller ford frontends. Waht are you trying to say by saying they don't exist, but yeah, thats what currie uses??? There are aty least 3 different "stlyes" of 8.8 axle.: {rear} dropout, extremely similar to a 9", {rear}std hsg. like a dana (ie no removeable center section), {front or rear}removeable centersection similar to a toyota (no removeable pinion housing)and {front} Ifs diff. Go do a little more research and we'll debate this one if you like.

What did the drop out 8.8s come in?

Aggro,

Then let me be very specific. The 8.8 axle housing is NOT High pinion nor did it come like that. I agree and said but not specifically enough for you that the 8.8 gear set is used for reverse cut high pinion.

BlueYJ

Originally posted by BlueYJ
Aggro,

The 8.8 axle housing is NOT High pinion nor did it come like that.

BlueYJ

You might want to call the ford engineers and tell them they built something that in your mind doesn't exist. I believe you are speaking exclusively about 8.8 rear axles, but are not conveying that in your posts.

Hey Recurve,

The WMS to WMS was 64" I got my 9" out of a 74 mark IV, the wheel pattern was 5 on 5, and the spline count was 27. I knew I would have to redrill for the 5 on5.5 wheel pattern I needed. I added dutchman 31 spline alloys, and a detroit locker. Again this is a large bearing rear-end w/disc brakes.

BlueYJ

9"

8.8" dropout

and for fun 9.5"

here's the 8.8 rear w/out removeable centersection that I think blueyj feels is the only 8.8 ever made! may be wrong.

Excuse the Fawk out of me Aggro, 8.8 REAR FAWKIN AXLE HOUSING are not high pinion. Reverse cut yes, and I am very clear on the use of the RC 8.8 Gear set. Havent we been talking about a Rear-end in this fawkin post. I only mentioned the option to go high pinion for the FORD 9" REAR END, yes currie uses the 8.8 FORD reverse cut gears for their high pinion set-up. I dont give a shit about every frigen application that the 8.8 GEAR SET is used in. The only mistake I made was not being more frigen specific and say 8.8 AXLE HOUSING was not high pinion, and in my first original post stating that I used the 9" out of a Mark XX.

If you read my second and third post I think it was clear that I was talking about a 9" and a 8.8 axle housing. Man get the panty out of your ass, forgive me for not being so dam specific.

did you forget your zanex this morning?:D :flipoff2:

No just havent had my quad latte.

By the way that is a coffee drink. :D

Originally posted by BlueYJ
Excuse the Fawk out of me Aggro, 8.8 REAR FAWKIN AXLE HOUSING are not high pinion. Reverse cut yes, ...

See here you go again (No not the panties in a wad thing) If a ring and pinion are reverse cut, then they are also hi pinion. Period. It is the same thing. If they are standard cut then they are "low" pinion. Period. It's just different phrasology. Go take that zanex now please.

gulp.......

Originally posted by Aggro
did you forget your zanex this morning?:D :flipoff2:

xanax. close though.:)

Originally posted by loingrader


xanax. close though.:)


You typed it off the bottle didn't you :flipoff2:

nope, just finishing up my pharmacy doctorate to help support my wheeling habit and high maintence wife :)

Hey Aggro, :D :flipoff2:

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BlueYJ :smokin:

Originally posted by loingrader
nope, just finishing up my pharmacy doctorate to help support my wheeling habit and high maintence wife :)

LOL
I had one of those High maintence girls. First wife :mad2:
Now I got one from a trailor park and I'm much happier
:)

A reverse cut 8.8" is used in the front of '97-up F150's and Expeditions. This is fact, not speculation.

Originally posted by Aggro
8.8" dropout

Uh... Hey Aggro, isn't this a picture of a Ford 8" dropout out of a late 60's Mustang? I don't think Ford made an 8.8" dropout rear.

Originally posted by MarkNovakovic


Uh... Hey Aggro, isn't this a picture of a Ford 8" dropout out of a late 60's Mustang? I don't think Ford made an 8.8" dropout rear.

That's what I was thinking, but haven't kept up on my Ford tech. Ford pissed me off, catering to the rich and IFS lifestyle. Figured I'd better keep my mouth shut, if I wasn't sure about what I said.

I don't think that was a rear, looks like the F150 front centersection to me.

Originally posted by firegod33
....Figured I'd better keep my mouth shut, if I wasn't sure about what I said.

That is the most profound statement ever made by anyone on this board, if it were up to me, firegod33 would receive the Newbie of the Year award, now, if only more Newbies, and Oldies for that matter would live by this motto.....Including me.

I have nothing more to add, back to your regularly scheduled tech.

Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK
I don't think that was a rear, looks like the F150 front centersection to me.

Nope, sorry the picture that Aggro claims is a 8.8" Ford dropout is actually a '67 and up Ford 8".

http://www.kevinstang.com/uv52.jpg

Check it out at:

http://www.kevinstang.com/Ninecase.htm

a little more than a third of the way down the page.