Scott,

In another post you said this
Swapping (eventually) Toy 22R for injected aluminum 1.9 four. Toy engine is too heavy. Carburetion sucks. EFI is cool. 150 pound motors are cool.

what motor is that you are looking at? The only motor I know of that approaches that weight is the suzuki built 3 cylinder used in chevy sprint etc. but it is only 1.0 L. the lightest water cooled 4 cylinder I know of is a 1.8L subaru (81-86) weighing in at 190lbs. But then for 225 Lbs you can have a mazda MX3 V6 at 2.5L and 160HP, or for 320 Lbs same as your 22R you can have a 3.5-5.0 litre buick/Rover V8

The only 1.9L aluminum block four cylinder I know of is the saturn at 240Lbs stripped down to sandrail form (no PS pump smog pump etc.)

So what is this light weight motor? I am sort of researching rockrail motors and I haven't found anything near that good.

Well Today I found a weight reference on a 1.8L 1zzfe (88 up corolla motor) says it is 70 lb lighter than the 7A motors which are "slightly heavier" than the 4A Toyota motors. the 4A's are supposed to weigh 225 LBS so this could come in around 150LB, and it might even bolt to a Toyota transmission. I am guessing this is the mystery motor scott was refering to.

Gordon,

Copied this from somewhere...might be of some use:

Engine Weight FYI

by Dave Williams
dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us
version 93.11.14

It isn't really a Frequently Asked Question, so I'll call it an "FYI",
For
Your Information. This was originally a list I'd compiled long ago on
paper, then moved to the computer, then posted on the net as a response
to
some questions. It wound up being popular, but since I didn't keep track
of
the origin of the data there was some debate as to how accurate the list
was. This new improved list has origins where I could find references;
what
doesn't have an origin is stuff from my original list.

You'll sometimes see more than one weight listed. Some weights are for
just
a long block, some are complete and ready to run, and of course
everything
in between. Some engines varied in weight during their production runs -
for example, some later Chevy V8s use thinwall blocks and aluminum
heads.

If you have any figures you'd like to contribute, please send them to me
at
the email address above.

Weight
engine References Comments
pounds
Alfasud flat-4 240 (2) (Possible AC use PL)
Alfa Romeo SOHC V6 375 (2)
AMC V8 540 (one ref showed 600)
AMC 6 500
Audi 2.0 L4 335 (2)
Audi 5 364 (2) (non-turbo)
Audi 80 1300 230 (2)
Audi 100 1500 240 (2)
Austin C-series L6 562 (2) ('56 Austin-Healey 100-6)
BL "B" L4 OHV 335 (2)
BL "E" L6 345 (2) ("complete")
BL "O" L4 OHC 298 (2)
BMW M52 3.3,3.5 Big Six 500 (2)
BMW M60 Small Six 388 (2)
BMW slant-6 turbodiesel 430
BMW 4.5L V12 607 (2)
BMW M105 Diesel 6 2.5L 430 (4)
Buick 350 450
Buick 401 685 (1) ('59 Nail Head)
Buick 430-455 V8 600 (one ref showed 640)
Buick 1963 odd-fire V6 414 (2)
Buick V6 375 (Racing parts avail. Possible AC use PL)
Buick 3.0 V6 '85-up 350
Buick/Rover/Olds 215 V8 318 (Of Swift & E-racer fame PL)
Buick 1961 215 V8 324 (2)
Cadillac V8 390 720 (1) ('59)
Cadillac V8 472-500 625 (Popular in air boats PL)
Cadillac V-16 1,300 (2) (1931)
Cadillac 331 V8 699 (2) (1949)
Chevy Corvair flat 6 300 (Lots used in Pietenpols PL)
Chevy 1.8-2.0 L4 302 (4) "J car" pushrod
Chevy Chevette 1.6 SOHC 300 (4) (also Opel)
Chevy Vega L4 285
Chevy II 153 L4 350
Chevy L6 194-250 440
Chevy L6 292 ---
Chevy L6 216/235 630 (2)
Chevy V6-90 229, 4.3 425 (Infamous Belted Power eng. PL)
Chevy V6-60 2.8, 3.1 350 (2)
Chevy small block V8 575 (generic for '60s-'70s motors)
Chevy small block V8 535 (1) ('59 Corvette 283 w/alum.intake)
Chevy V8 348/409 620 (1)
Chevy big block V8 685 Mark IV
Chevy big block V8 --- Mark V
Chrysler 2.2 L4 216 (6) (bare motor)
Chrysler 413 wedge 640 (1) ('59 300-E)
Chrysler 331 Hemi 745 (5) 1955
Citroen 2.0 Douvrin 4 263
DeSoto 383 630 (1) ('59)
DeSoto V8 675 (5) (276-341 CID, '50s)
Dodge V8 645 (5) (241-325 CID, '50s)
Dodge 361 625 (1) ('59)
Edsel 361 680 (1) ('59)
Ferrari 312T 397 (2) (V12 3.0L racing engine)
Ferrari "250" V12 382 (2)
FIAT/Ferrari Dino V6 285 (2) (model 206)
FIAT/Ferrari Dino V6 296 (2) (model 246)
Ford Kent 1600 ---
Ford Escort OHC 1600 ---
Ford 1.3-2.0 OHC ---
Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4 418 (2) (also 2.0, 2.5)
Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4 450 (2) (turbo)
Ford Germany Taunus V4 205 (2) (and SAAB V4)
Ford England Essex V4 327
Ford Germany 2.0-2.8 V6 305
Ford England Essex V6 379 (2) (3 liter)
Ford 3.8 V6-90 351 (4) W/start, alt, L/clutch (used in AC PL)
Ford 170-250 L6 385 (except Australian w/aluminum head)
Ford 240-300 L6 ---
Ford flathead V8 525
Ford flathead V8 569 (1) ('53 239 CID)
Ford Cosworth DFV 353 (2) (racing engine, DOHC, 3.0L)
Ford SOHC modular V8 ---
Ford DOHC modular V8 ---
Ford 255 Windsor 468 (4)
Ford 289/302 V8 460 (late 5.0s are a bit lighter)
Ford BOSS 302 500
Ford 351 Cleveland 550 (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C)
Ford 351 Windsor 510
Ford Y block V8 625 (272-312 CID)
Ford FE big block 650 (332-428 CID)
Ford FE big block 670 (1) ('59 352 CID)
Ford 429/460 V8 640
Ford BOSS 429 680 (iron block, aluminum heads)
Isuzu 1.8 Diesel L4 384 (4)
Isuzu 1.8 gas L4 311 (4)
Jaguar old design 6 ---
Jaguar new design 6 ---
Jaguar V12 680
Lincoln 430 740 (1) ('59) (also Mercury 430)
Lotus 907 (Esprit) 275 (3)(inc. alt. & starter, no clutch)
Marmon V-16 931 (2) (1931)
Mercedes SOHC V8 alum. 452 (2) (possible AC potential PL)
Mercedes SOHC V8 iron 540 (2)
Mopar Slant Six 475
Mopar 273-340 "A" V8 525
Mopar 360 "A" 550
Mopar 361-383-400 V8 620 (5)
Mopar 413-426W-440 V8 670 (5)
Mopar Street Hemi 765 (690 bare)
Nissan 240-300Z 6 ---
Nissan CA20 FWD 269 (4) belt cam
Nissan Z20 NAPS-Z 2.0 346 (4) RWD chain cam
Olds 215 V8 318 (same as Buick/Rover)
Olds 260 V8 ---
Olds 304 "Rocket" V8 671 (2) first Olds V8, 1949
Olds straight-8 614 (2) '40s motor
Olds 330 J2 700 (first generation V8)
Olds 330-400 560 (5) low deck, w/accessories, no flywheel
Olds 350-403 V8 --- '86-up lightweight design
Olds 394 725 (1) ('59)
Olds 371, 394 760 (5)
Olds 400-455 620 (5) high deck w/accessories, no flywheel
Olds 262 V6 Diesel 590 (4) (from GM SAE paper)
Olds 260 Diesel ---
Olds 350 Diesel ---
Opel 2.8-3.0 CIH L6 395 (2)
Peugeot 204 Diesel 272
Peugeot Douvrin 2.0 4 263 (2)
Peugeot 104 1400 260 (2) includes transaxle
Pierce-Arrow V-12 1,130 (2) (1932)
Plymouth 361 640 (1) ('59)
Pontiac L4 350 Iron Duke, Tech IV
Pontiac Tempest slant 4 470
Pontiac SOHC 6 450
Pontiac 389 V8 650
Pontiac 389 V8 590 (1) ('59)
Porsche 4.7 SOHC V8 574
Porsche 901 6 401 (2) (1963)
Rambler 327 V8 600
Rambler 327 V8 670 (1) ('59)
Rover 3500 V8 318 (same as Buick/Olds)
Rover 3.0 SOHC L6 432 (2)
Renault 2.0 4 Douvrin 263 (2)
Renault 2.8 V6 375 (2) (also DeLorean, Peugeot, Volvo)
Renault EF-1 395 (2) (racing version of P-R-V V6)
SAAB V4-60 206 (2) (also Taunus, Ford) (AC poten. PL)
SAAB slant-4 290 (2) (also Triumph)
Studebaker 289 650
Triumph 2, 2.2 L4 ??? [TR2-4]
Triumph slant-4 290 (2) (also SAAB 99) [TR7]
Triumph 2, 2.5 L6 403 (2) [TR6, GT6]
Triumph Spitfire/Herald ???
Triumph Stag V8 446
VW flat-4 air cooled 200 (This number is too high PL)
VW flat-4 water cooled ---
VW inline 4 --- Rabbit/Golf

References:

1. Handbook of Engine Swapping, John Thawley, 1960
2. Complete Handbook of Automotive Power Trains, Jan Norbye, 1981
3. Passenger Car Engines, papers, IMechE, 1975
4. New Light Duty Engines, SAE 510, 1982
5. Hot Rod Engines, Hot Rod, 1967
6. Aspects of Internal Combustion Engine Design, SAE 582, 1982

Copyright 1989-1995 Team.Net

The editor of this page is Bob Haskell, ierh2@agt.gmeds.com

Engine weights (http://performanceunlimited.com/documents/engineweights.html)

It's a 1.9L Saturn motor... Sounds pretty sweet from what he has told me so far... Rice it up with some Rice and get 200+ hp.

what I don't understand is why no one has thrown the Yamahammer (original yamaha V6 from taurus SHO) in a rig yet, it's all aluminum for chrissakes and has a ton of power. There's also the SR20, the nissan motor designed for RWD made of aluminum that can handle up to 3-400 horse. Then there's the RB motor, from a Skyline. But for low end it would be great if there was a RWD application for my beloved DOHC Neon R/T four. Laugh all you want, its a pretty light motor with a ton of hop up parts, and get this, it actually makes some good torque for it's size. anyway, that's my engine rant, now someone please go out and use the yamahammer (it bolts up to a T5 with a ranger bellhousing I believe, possibly an aerostar, not sure).

It's the Saturn engine. His 150lbs was more an estimate than fact. It took only a couple of them to carry it from the back of the pickup into the shop. Scott isn't looking for power, his approach is all in gearing and light weight. The fact that the Saturn engine puts out a little more hp than the Yota is a welcome benefit; more important was the reduction in weight and EFI.

Originally posted by Gordon
Scott,

you can have a mazda MX3 V6 at 2.5L and 160HP, .

No offense Gordon but the MX3 came with the 1.8L V6 while the MX6 and Probes came with the 2.5L V6... I have this engine in my Probe and it runs very well!

I like the idea of the Thunderbird Super Coupe blown 6...

Bill I posted that on here a couple times since then I have found more complete data.

emetology 101 yep your right typo, brain fart whatever, not much of a mazda guy except for the rotory.

Here is my more complete list

The first part is from a sandrail page. Those guys know light weight High HP motors. The popular one these days seems to be the 2.5 and 2.0 Subaru Motors. 260Lbs boxer water cooled with Turbo, some guys squeezing out 450+ HP Not exactly the rock motor though.

The second part is the most current list compiled by the same guy that originally complied the list Bill posted, but it also includes newer stuff like the Northstar engines. and some dimensional data at the bottom.

I did find another source on the 1zzfe 159 lbs, weighed on a racecar setup scale with the flywheel and all the accesories that an autocross buddy of mine used in his MR2 (1st gen). He is now running 14 psi boost in that motor. I don't believe his HP estimates so I won't post them but it does make that boost and it has survived some spirited driving.

Rpenner Toy283 thanks for the info.

Scott if you put that thing on a scale I will believe your numbers more than these others I have found.

Sorry if I stole this info from your webpage without proper credit, I was not planning on sharing it when I stole it.

4 CYLINDER WEIGHT(LBS.)* LENGTH(IN.)*
VW Type one * 200* 14.5
VW Type four 280 * 22*
VW Rabbit* 230 19**
Chrysler 2.2 & 2.5L 267 21**
Ford 2.0L Pinto 286 15.5**
Ford 2.3L Pinto 328 24.5***
GM 2.5L 285 22.5***
GM Quad 4 2.3L 320 * 21**
Saturn 1.9L DOHC 240 19.5**
Subaru 1.8L ('81-'86) 188 14***
Subaru 1.8L OHC 200 16***
Subaru 2.2L ('90-'96) 260 16.5***
Subaru 2.2L Turbo 265 16.5**
Subaru 2.5L 270 16.5***
Toyota 4-A 1.6L-16V 225 20***
Toy 3SG 2.0L-16V 293 22***
Toyota 18R-20R-22R 315 * 24.5*

6 CYLINDER WEIGHT(LBS.)* LENGTH(IN.)*
Acura 2.5 & 2.7L 350 20.5**
Acura NSX 275 20.5***
Buick 225 & 231cu.in. 390 22.5***
Buick 3.0 & 3.3L 377 23**
Buick 3.8L, '85 & up 380 22.5***
Chevy 2.8 & 3.1L 350 24***
Chevy 4.3L 420 25***
Corvair 300 24***
Ford 2.6-4.0L 365 23***
Ford 231cu.in. 402 * 21**
Ford 3.0L 380 22**
Ford DOHC 2.5L 390 19***
Ford DOHC 3.0L 447 22**
Mazda DOHC 2.5L 390 19***
Mitsubishi 3.0L-24V 365 21***
Mitsubishi 3.0L Turbo 370 21***
Nissan 3.0L 360 20.5**
Nissan 3.0L Turbo 365 20.5***
Porsche "911" 3.3L 280 23***
Subaru 3.3L SVX 387 21***
Toyota 3.0L 360 * 21.5**
Volvo 350 21***
VW 2.8L('92-'94) 374 19***

8 CYLINDER WEIGHT(LBS.)* LENGTH(IN.)*
Buick 215cu.in.* 320 * 28.5*
Chevy small block * 500 * 29*
Ford small block* 450 29.5*
Rover Aluminum V8* 320 28.5

Misc WEIGHT(LBS.)* LENGTH(IN.)*
Mazda rotary 12A/13B 260 * 20


*********************** weight
***** engine*********** pounds** ref.****** comments*

*ABC Dragonfly aero***** 650**** (87) 1917 9-cyl radial*

*Alfasud flat-4********* 240**** (2) (19) "complete"*
*Alfa Romeo SOHC V6***** 375**** (2)
*Alfa Romeo 415/85T***** 279**** (31) F1 four, '87 season*
*Alfa 155 V6 TI********* 242**** (75) BTCC Class 1 race engine*

*AMC V8***************** 540******** (late design V8s)*
*AMC V8***************** 600******** (early design V8s)
*AMC 6****************** 500******** (early design six - 199)*

*AMW F-440************** 86***** (78) SAE F440 spec motor, 2 cyl*

*Audi 2.0 L4************ 335**** (2)
*Audi 5***************** 364**** (2) (non-turbo)*
*Audi 80 1300*********** 230**** (2)
*Audi 100 1500********** 240**** (2)*

*Austin C-series L6***** 562**** (2) ('56 Austin-Healey 100-6)*

*BL "B" L4 OHV********** 335**** (2)
*BL "E" L6************** 345**** (2)* ("complete")*
*BL "O" L4 OHC********** 298**** (2)

*BMW M52 3.3,3.5 Big Six 500**** (2)*
*BMW M60 B 40 4.0 V8**** 468**** (17)*
*BMW M60 Small Six****** 388**** (2)*
*BMW slant-6 turbodiesel 430
*BMW 4.5L V12*********** 607**** (2) (50) "Fully dressed" prototype*
*BMW 4.5L V12*********** 974**** (57) iron prototype
*BMW 5.0 V12************ 529**** (22) (57) "fully dressed"*
*BMW 3.0,4.0 V8********* 462**** (70) all aluminum
*BMW 3.0,4.0 V8********* 448-468 (79) all aluminum*
*BMW M105 Diesel 6 2.5L* 430**** (4)
*BMW 2.3 turbo Diesel*** 408**** (21) iron block, alum head, "complete"*
*BMW S14 four*********** 350**** (23) 318i motor

*Bollee vertical twin*** 330**** (86) 6 bhp, 600 RPM, evaporative cooled*

*BRM V12**************** 375**** (87) 1965? F1 motor*

*Benz B2-3BZ, 1917, V8** 683**** (98) built-up steel, 940 ci, aircraft*

*BRM "290" V12********** 319**** (74) 1992 3.5L Le Mans engine*

*Buick 1953 322 V8****** 635**** (51) OHV V8*
*Buick 350************** 450
*Buick 401************** 685**** (1) ('59 Nail Head)
*Buick 430-455 V8******* 600******** (one ref showed 640) (10 - 600)*
*Buick 1963 odd-fire V6* 414**** (2)
*Buick V6*************** 375
*Buick 3.0 V6 '85-up**** 350
*Buick/Rover 215 V8***** 318******** (and Olds)*
*Buick 1961 215 V8****** 324**** (2)

*Cadillac V8 390******** 720**** (1) ('59)*
*Cadillac V8 472-500**** 625
*Cadillac V8 500******** 595**** (10)*
*Cadillac V-16********** 1,300** (2) (1931)*
*Cadillac 331 V8******** 699**** (2) (1949)*
*Cadillac Northstar V8** 484**** (71)
*Cadillac Northstar V8** 403**** (79) (bare, no accessories)*
*Cadillac Northstar V8** 464**** (80) (dressed)

*Callaway Indy HH-V8**** 277**** (54) 2.6L Drake design*
*Callaway "Wee 8"******* 200**** (91) light weight design study*

*Chevy Corvair flat 6*** 300
*Chevy Sprint 993cc L4** 147**** (55) 24L x 20W x 25H* (Suzuki mfr)*
*Chevy 1.8-2.0 L4******* 302**** (4) (39) "J car" pushrod
*Chevy Chevette 1.6 SOHC 300**** (4) (39) (also Opel)*
*Chevy Vega L4********** 285
*Chevy II 153 L4******** 350
*Chevy L6 194-250******* 440
*Chevy L6 292*********** ---
*Chevy L6 216/235******* 630**** (2)
*Chevy L6 216/235******* 615**** (88) "265 V8 was 40# lighter than 235"*
*Chevy V6-90 229, 4.3*** 425
*Chevy V6-60 2.8, 3.1*** 350**** (2)
*Chevy small block V8*** 575******** (generic for '60s-'70s motors)*
*Chevy small block V8*** 535**** (1) ('59 Corvette 283 w/alum. intake)*
*Chevy LT-5 DOHC 5.7**** 600**** (122)
*Chevy L98 5.7 V8******* 600**** (122)*
*Chevy V8 348/409******* 620**** (1)*
*Chevy V8 348/408******* 655**** (83)
*Chevy big block V8***** 685******** Mark IV*
*Chevy big block V8***** ---******** Mark V*
*Chevy 454************** 675**** (10)
*Chevy 427 ZL-1********* 550**** (35) all-aluminum, "20# lighter than SB"*

*Chrysler 2.2 L4******** 216**** (6) (bare motor)*
*Chrysler 413 wedge***** 640**** (1) ('59 300-E)*
*Chrysler 331 Hemi****** 745**** (5) 1955
*Chrysler M4 tank engine 5,244** (87) 30 cyl, 5 banks of 6, flathead, WWII
*Chrysler 1955 V8******* 691**** (99) Spitfire, 'polyspheric', 300 ci 188 hp
*Chrysler 1955 Hemi***** 729**** (99) Firepower* 331.1 ci, 250hp, 1x4v*
*Chrysler 1955 300 Hemi* 735**** (99) C-300, 331.1 ci, 300hp, 2x4v*
*Chrysler Patriot******* 186**** (110) gas turbine (part of hybrid EV)*
*Chrysler CR2A turbine** 410**** (111) 1964 Turbine Car, 130hp SAE net*

*Citroen 2.0 Douvrin 4** 263

*Continental TSIO-550B** 566**** (113) turbocharged, aircraft*
*Continental Voyager**** 571**** (113) turbocharged, aircraft*

*Cosworth AC V8 ('93)*** 286**** (23,64)* 75 degree bank angle*
*Cosworth HB 75 deg V8** 309**** (52,63)* 23.4L x 23.3W x 20.5H*
*Cosworth HB Series 6*** 286**** (70) 75 deg V8* 595mmL*
*Cosworth DFV V8******** 313**** (23) 90 degree bank angle*
*Cosworth DFR V8******** 308**** (63) 90 degree bank angle*
*Cosworth DFX V8******** 340**** (29)
*Cosworth XB V8********* 260**** (29, 89)*
*Cosworth V8************ 375**** (87) 1965? F1*
*Cosworth MBA 2.5L V6*** 242**** (61,68) 90 deg V
*Cosworth ED 75 deg V8** 292**** (103) F1, 3 liter 1994*

*Coventry Climax FWMV V8 270**** (121) 1963, w/starter & dynamo (2 valve)*
*Coventry Climax FWMV V8 298**** (121) 1965, w/starter & dynamo (4 valve)*

*Crosley Cobra ('46-'48)* 59**** (25,26) less starter and generator*

*Curtiss-Wright
***** RC2-60-N8 rotary** 900**** (96)
***** RC2-60-U10 rotary* 325**** (96) "heavy fuel" plus 50.2 for flywheel*
***** RC1-60 rotary***** 192**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories
***** RC2-60 rotary***** 266**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC4-60 rotary***** 417**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC2-90 rotary***** 317**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories
***** RC2-90 rotary***** 345**** (96) water cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC3-90 rotary***** 410**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories
***** RC3-90 rotary***** 480**** (96) water cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC4-90 rotary***** 510**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories
***** RC4-90 rotary***** 613**** (96) water cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC5-90 rotary***** 605**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories
***** RC5-90 rotary***** 740**** (96) water cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC6-90 rotary***** 710**** (96) air cooled, w/all accessories
***** RC6-90 rotary***** 860**** (96) water cooled, w/all accessories*
***** RC2-60 U5 rotary** 280**** (96)
*Curtiss V12, 1920***** 1086**** (98) 1650 ci, steel with Al crankcase*

*DeSoto 383************* 630**** (1) ('59)
*DeSoto V8************** 675**** (5) (276-341 CID, '50s)*

*Detroit Diesel 6****** 2448**** (37) (old design)
*Detroit Diesel 6****** 1848**** (37) (new Penske/Mercedes design)*

*Dodge V8*************** 645**** (5) (241-325 CID, '50s)*
*Dodge 361************** 625**** (1) ('59)
*Dodge Viper V10******** 716**** (24) (30) with accessories*
*Dodge truck V10******** 816**** (30) ("about 100 pounds heaver")*
*Dodge truck V10******** 836**** (34) ("about 120 pounds heaver")*

*Edsel 361************** 680**** (1) ('59)*

*Falconer V12*********** 523**** (112) aluminum, small block Chevy based*

*Ferrari 312T*********** 397**** (2) (V12 3.0L racing engine)*
*Ferrari "250" V12****** 382**** (2)
*Ferrari V12*********** ~300**** (23) 65 degree bank angle, 1992 F1*
*Ferrari 456 V12******** 517**** (32,65) 65 degree, 5.5L, 1992*
*Ferrari "036_ F1 V12*** 310**** (66) 65 deg, 3.5L
*Ferrari "291" F1 V12*** 275**** (66) also E1A-92, 65 deg*
*Ferrari E1A/92 F1 V12** 308**** (70) 65 deg
*Ferrari F50 4.7L V12*** 432**** (90)*

*FIAT/Ferrari Dino V6*** 285**** (2) (model 206)*
*FIAT/Ferrari Dino V6*** 296**** (2) (model 246)*

*Footwork/Porsche FA12** 396**** (76) F1 V12*

*Ford Zetec-SE 1.3 DOHC* 202**** (107) 1996 Fiesta*
*Ford 1600 CVH********** 282**** (49) (US Escort)*
*Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4* 418**** (2) (also 2.0, 2.5)*
*Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4* 307**** (18)
*Ford 2.3 Lima/Pinto L4* 450**** (2) (turbo)
*Ford 2.3 Polimotor***** 152**** (12) plastic motor*
*Ford 2.3 Polimotor***** 168**** (55) plastic motor*
*Ford Germany Taunus V4* 205**** (2) (and SAAB V4)*
*Ford England Essex V4** 327
*Ford Germany 2.0-2.8 V6 305
*Ford England Essex V6** 379**** (2) (3 liter)
*Ford 3.8 V6-90********* 351**** (4) (w/start, alt, less clutch)*
*Ford 3.8 V6-90********* 311**** (18) ("fully dressed")
*Ford Duratec 2.5/3.0 V6 360**** (45) ("fully dressed")
*Ford CDW27 60 deg V6*** 365**** (47) "as delivered to assembly plant"*
*Ford/Mazda Mondeo V6*** 225**** (64) 60 deg, all aluminum, 4v
*Ford 170-250 L6******** 385******** (except Australian w/aluminum head)*
*Ford flathead V8******* 525**** (124) 1932 model, integral b'hsg, iron heads
*Ford flathead V8******* 569**** (1) ('53 239 CID)
*Ford Cosworth DFV****** 353**** (2) (racing engine, DOHC, 3.0L)*
*Ford 255 Windsor******* 468**** (4)
*Ford 289/302 V8******** 460******** (late 5.0s are a bit lighter)*
*Ford 221-302W********** 460**** (48)
*Ford Indy 255 pushrod** 360**** (120) all aluminum, 1963
*Ford Indy 255 DOHC***** 400**** (120) 1964, later known as Foyt Coyote V8
*Ford 5.0 V8************ 450**** (109)*
*Ford BOSS 302********** 500**** (48)
*Ford 351 Cleveland***** 550**** (48) (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C)
*Ford 351 Windsor******* 510
*Ford 351 Windsor******* 525**** (48)*
*Ford 351M-400********** 575**** (48)
*Ford Y block V8******** 625******** (272-312 CID)*
*Ford FE big block****** 650******** (332-428 CID)*
*Ford FE big block****** 670**** (1) ('59 352 CID)*
*Ford FE**************** 625**** (48)
*Ford 427 SOHC********** 680**** (48)*
*Ford 429/460 V8******** 640
*Ford 429-460*********** 720**** (48)*
*Ford 460 V8************ 720**** (10)
*Ford BOSS 429********** 680******** (iron block, aluminum heads)*
*Ford BOSS 429********** 635**** (48)
*Ford 4.6 SOHC********** 530**** (93) iron block, aluminum heads*
*Ford 4.6 SOHC********** 473**** (72)
*Ford 4.6 DOHC********** 464**** (72) "9 pounds lighter than SOHC"*
*Ford 4.6 DOHC********** 437**** (77) without accessories
*Ford 4.6 DOHC********** 521**** (94) aluminum block and heads*

*Ford/Seimens 75hp****** 192**** (108) 3-phase electric, with gear drive*

*GM CD5-2 2-stroke****** 165**** (42,68) Orbital patent, prototype
*GM Rotary Engine******* 255**** (13) cast iron, 1972 PR weight figure*
*GM Rotary Engine RC206* 345**** (14) aluminum, 1974 PR weight figure*
*GMC 261 L6 (216-235)*** 544**** (43) "25 lbs lighter than flathead Ford"*
*GM Ultralite engine**** 173**** (67)

*Garrett/Allied Signal** 125**** (108) hybrid EV gas turbine w/generator*

*General Electric T-58* ~200**** (115) 1100hp, helicopter turbine*

*Gurney-Weslake V12***** 370**** (33) Eagle AAR, 60 degree*

*HKS F1 3.5 V12********* 363**** (23) Formula 1, 5 valve per cyl.*

*HS Performance 2.0 V8** 160**** (63) (2xYamaha FZR1000) 488L x 552W x 478H

*Hall-Scott 6 cyl 825ci* 565**** (97) Merc type A/C engine,*
*WWI Fageol racer*
*Hart V10 F1, 72 deg V** 300**** (63) model 1035, 622L x 560W x 535H*
*Hart 10.35************* 300**** (64) 622L x 560W
*Hart 420R 2.0L********* 245**** (106)* 1994, also Barker-Hart*

*Hispano-Suiza V8******* 330**** (86) 1915 aircraft engine, water cooled*
*Hispano-Suiza V8 32CV** 540**** (86) 1919 6.6 liter car engine
*Hispano H, 1918******** 632**** (98) aircraft, 1127 ci, steel w/Al crankcase

*Honda RA122E 75 deg V12 330**** (23) Formula 1
*Honda RA1/22E/B******** 352**** (70) (est. weight) also RA121E*
*Honda RA168E F1 V6***** 329**** (119) 80 deg, 1500cc
*Honda 3.5L 72 deg V10** 331**** (40, 52) 24.4L x 21.7W x 21.3H Formula 1*
*Honda 75deg V12******** 340**** (41) 1993 Formula 1
*Honda 24V V6*********** 491**** (55) Acura Legend motor*
*Honda CBR 600 F2******* 125**** (102) MC

*Hooper 994cc V4******** 92***** (73) two stroke, stepped piston, prototype
*Hooper 290cc twin****** 54***** (73) two stroke, stepped piston, prototype

*Ilmor 80deg V8********* 325**** (29)
*Ilmor 2175A 72deg V10** 281**** (59) 592.5mmL, 519mmW, 555mmH*
*Ilmor 2175A 72 deg V10* 268**** (70)
*Ilmor V-8-A Indy******* 325**** (69) 1992 Galmer Indy car, 90 deg V*
*Ilmor 265A* 80 deg V8** 325**** (84)
*Ilmor 265D* 82 deg V8** 272**** (84)*

*Infiniti 4.5 V8******** 551**** (71)
*Infiniti Q45 V8******** 509**** (72) "45 pounds heavier than Ford DOHC"*
*Infiniti Q45 V8******** 529**** (77) "65 pounds heavier than Ford DOHC"*

*Isuzu 1.8 Diesel L4**** 384**** (4)*
*Isuzu 1.8 gas L4******* 311**** (4)*

*Jabiru 80hp aero******* 123**** (114) flat-4, air cooled*

*Jaguar V12************* 680**** (57)
*Jaguar/Orbital 3.2 V6** 359**** (61) supercharged two stroke*
*Jaguar 4.2L six******** 604**** (105)
*Jaguar XJ220 V6******** 427**** (73) complete w/turbos, wiring*
*Jaguar AJ6 4.0L******** 531**** (118)
*Jaguar AJV8 4.4L******* 441**** (118) "fully dressed"*

*Judd V10*************** 286**** (22) 72 deg V, F1, 630mm long*
*Judd KV V8************* 242**** (64) 90 deg F3000* 1992
*Judd GV 72 deg V10***** 273**** (70) 630mmL*

*Kawasaki H1R, H2R****** 120**** (9) 3 cyl, two stroke MC*

*LPE 400 Series Turbo*** 370**** (113) aircraft, 400 CI, SBC based, alloy*
*LPE 600 Series Turbo*** 560**** (113) aircraft, 670 CI, BBC based, alloy*

*Lamborghini/Chrysler*** 299**** (8) (1992) V12 Formula 1 motor*
*Lamborghini 80 deg V12* 330**** (70) 1991-1992 V12 F1

*Lexicon TRJ-300******** 110**** (114) centrifugal turbojet, aircraft*

*Lexus 4.0 V8*********** 470**** (71)*
*Lexus 4.0 V8*********** 464**** (77)*

*Liberty V12, 1917****** 856**** (98) 1400+ ci, all steel, aircraft engine

*Lincoln 430************ 740**** (1) ('59) (also Mercury 430)*

*Lotus 907 (Esprit)***** 275**** (3) inc. alt. & starter, no clutch*
*Lotus Project 618 V8*** 465**** (117) Esprit V8 prototype, w/AC, PS, alt.

*Lycoming 36 cyl radial 6050**** (87) WWII, 127 liters, 4x9, water cooled*
*Lycoming IO-540******** 515**** (113) aircraft

*Mallory rotary********* 188**** (87) 400hp, eccentric-vane*

*Marmon V-16************ 931**** (2) (1931)*

*Mazda 12A and 13B****** 260**** (109)
*Mazda 10A rotary******* 224**** (20) (Cosmo) (bare)*
*Mazda 10A rotary******* 268**** (20) (R100) (bare)
*Mazda 10A rotary******* 190**** (27) (R100) (without thermal reactor)*
*Mazda 10A rotary******* 280**** (27) (R100) (with thermal reactor)*
*Mazda 12A rotary******* 348**** (20) (RX7) (with oil and water)
*Mazda 12A rotary******* 356**** (20) (Japanese model turbo, EFI)
*Mazda 12A rotary******* 275**** (85) (w/flywheel, t.reactor, no alt.)
*Mazda 13A* rotary****** 301**** (20) (R130 Lucia - Japan only) (bare)
*Mazda 13B* race******** 242**** (95) 2-rotor race motor, with accessories
*Mazda 13G 3-rotor race* 319**** (95) 3-rotor race motor, with accessories
*Mazda 13J 4-rotor race* 396**** (95) 4-rotor race motor, with accessories

*Mercedes SOHC V8 alum.* 452**** (2)*
*Mercedes SOHC V8 iron** 540**** (2)*
*Mercedes 5.6L V8******* 467**** (57) 1987*
*Mercedes OM 615 Diesel* 447**** (16)
*Mercedes M291 flat-12** 374**** (66) with starter, alt, exh, no clutch*
*Mercedes 500I V8******* 305**** (46) 1994 pushrod Turbo Indy motor (Penske)
*Mercedes/Ilmor Indy V8* 273**** (57, 60) 72 deg V Turbo Indy motor*
*Mercedes/Ilmor DOHC V8* 280**** (89) 1995 IC 108 model, no clutch*

*Mercury Marine 2000**** 331**** (14) 200hp, 2 stroke, 142 CID, w/foot*
*Mercury Marine 1750**** 350**** (14) 275hp, 2 stroke, 122 CID, w/foot*

*Miller 91 (1926)******* 330**** (44) predecessor to Offy four*

*Mopar Slant Six******** 475
*Mopar 273-340 "A" V8*** 525
*Mopar 360 "A"********** 550
*Mopar 361-383-400 V8*** 620**** (5)*
*Mopar 413-426W-440 V8** 670**** (5) (10)
*Mopar Street Hemi****** 765******** (690 bare)*

*Mugen V10************** 330**** (23) 72 degree bank angle, F1
*Mugen V10************** 341**** (70) 72 degree bank angle, F1, 1991-1993*
*Mugen V8*************** 255**** (64) 90 deg F3000 (late motor)

*Mundy Trident W-12***** 325**** (85) proposed 1965 F1, not built*

*Napier Nomad flat-12** 3580**** (87) aircraft, turbo-compound*
*Napier Lion W-12******* 930**** (87) aircraft, 1918, water cooled*
*Napier Deltic, 1950** 11000**** (87) general use, 18 cyl
*Napier Deltic, 1966** 15000**** (87) intercooled, turbo version*

*Nissan CA20 FWD******** 269**** (4) belt cam*
*Nissan Z20 NAPS-Z 2.0** 346**** (4) RWD chain cam
*Nissan VRT35 GTP V12*** 341**** (66) 70 deg prototype 660L x 577W x 533H*

*Olds 215 V8************ 318******** (same as Buick/Rover)*
*Olds 304 "Rocket" V8*** 671**** (2) first Olds V8, 1949*
*Olds straight-8******** 614**** (2) '40s motor
*Olds 330 J2************ 700******** (first generation V8)
*Olds 330-400*********** 560**** (5) low deck, w/accessories, no flywheel*
*Olds 394*************** 725**** (1) ('59)
*Olds 371, 394********** 760**** (5)
*Olds 400-455*********** 620**** (5) high deck w/accessories, no flywheel*
*Olds 455*************** 605**** (10)
*Olds 262 V6 Diesel***** 590**** (4) (from GM SAE paper)
*Olds DOHC 4.0 V8******* 463**** (80)(dressed) Olds variant of Cad*
* Northstar

*Opel 2.8-3.0 CIH L6**** 395**** (2)*

*Orbital 2.0 L6********* 220**** (82) "dressed" 2 stroke, all aluminum*

*Otto "Atmospheric"**** 2600**** (56) 1hp, 15 feet tall, model of 1867*

*Peugeot 204 Diesel***** 272**** (11) SOHC, 45hp*
*Peugeot Douvrin 2.0 4** 263**** (2)
*Peugeot 104 1400******* 260**** (2) includes transaxle
*Peugeot Indenor XD-90** 415**** (16) Diesel, aluminum head and sump*

*Pierce-Arrow V-12****** 1,130** (2) (1932)*

*Pininfarina************ 181**** (61) Ethos show car, Orbital 3 cyl*

*Plymouth 361*********** 640**** (1) ('59)*

*Polimotor DOHC 2.0 L4** 150**** (53)* mostly plastic, development motor*
*Polimotor L4*********** 179**** (106) inc. starter, no clutch or*
* flywheel)\

*Pontiac L4************* 350******** Iron Duke, Tech IV*
*Pontiac Tempest slant 4 470
*Pontiac SOHC 6********* 450
*Pontiac SOHC 6********* 550**** (100)*
*Pontiac 389 V8********* 650
*Pontiac 389 V8********* 590**** (1) ('59)*
*Pontiac 301 V8********* 452

*Porsche 914/4********** 265**** (109)*
*Porsche 911/6********** 280**** (109)*
*Porsche 4.7 SOHC V8**** 574
*Porsche 4.7 SOHC V8**** 582**** (57)*
*Porsche 901 6********** 401**** (2) (1963)*

*Rambler 327 V8********* 600
*Rambler 327 V8********* 670**** (1) ('59)*

*Rover 3500 V8********** 318******** (same as Buick)*
*Rover 3.0 SOHC L6****** 432**** (2)
*Rover 2000 four******** 312**** (36) 1960s engine*

*Renault 2.0 4 Douvrin** 263**** (2)
*Renault 2.8 V6********* 375**** (2) (also DeLorean, Peugeot, Volvo)*
*Renault EF-1*********** 395**** (2) (racing version of P-R-V V6)*
*Renault V10************ 308**** (23) 67 degree bank angle, F1*
*Renault V10************ 331**** (52) 67 deg
*Renault RS3B V10******* 301**** (70) 67 deg*
*Renault D7F 1.1L******* 180**** (123)*
*Renault E-series 1.2L** 238**** (123)

*Rolls-Royce 6.5 Wankel* 930**** (51) tank engine*

*Rover KV-6 2.5L******** 335**** (117, 123) "fully equipped"*

*SAAB V4-60************* 206**** (2) (also Taunus, Ford)*
*SAAB slant-4*********** 290**** (2) (also Triumph TR-7)*

*Studebaker 289********* 650

*Subaru flat-12 F1****** 331**** (52) Formula 1, Moteri Moderni*

*SuperLight 180 SL****** 210**** (114) Mazda 13B-based, aircraft, alloy*
* housings

*Suzuki Cultus 3 cyl**** 139**** (7,38) (Geo Metro, Chevy Sprint)*

*Toyota 1G-EU 2.6 L6**** 340**** (27) with oil and coolant (SOHC)*
*Toyota 4M Hemi L6****** 400**** (27)
*Toyota V6************** 469**** (81) '92 Camry iron V6
*Toyota V6 3.0L********* 401**** (81) '94 Camry aluminum V6 1MZ-FE*
*Toyota RV8A Indy V8**** 225**** (116) '96,as used in Gurney Eagle*

*Triumph slant-4******** 290**** (2) (also SAAB 99)*
*Triumph 2000 L6******** 403**** (2) (Spitfire, 2.5 TRs)*
*Triumph Stag V8******** 446

*VW flat-4 air cooled*** 200
*VW flat-4 air cooled*** 215**** (109)*
*VW flat-4 Type IV****** 311**** (109)*

*Vauxhall Calibra******* 245**** (75) 24v, 2.5L V6*
*Vauxhall Swindon******* 230**** (106) race motor, 2.0L*

*Volvo B20E************* 340**** (104)*
*Volvo B21F&B23F******** 365**** (104)
*Volvo 3.0 L6 DOHC****** 401**** (56) all aluminum*

*Wright R3350 Cyclone** 3029**** (87) aircraft radial*

*Yamaha OX66 75 deg V6** 230**** (44) 16.5" long, 21.5" wide
*Yamaha OX88 75 deg V8** 320**** (40,52) Formula 1, 3.5L, 22.0L x 22.4W*
*Yamaha OX99 70 deg V12* 308**** (70) F1
*Yamaha FJ600*********** 135**** (101) MC, without intake or exhaust*

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*Sizes:* These figures can be *very* misleading!* Shape is usually more*
******** important than maximum dimensions.

************************ ref**** Length* Width** Height*
*Alfa 155 V6 TI********* (75)*** 500mm

*BRM "290" V12********** (74)*** 650mm*
*BRM V12 1965? F1******* (87)*** 29
*Buick 3.8 V6*********** (60)*** 22.0*** 24.0*** 24.2*

*Chevy LT1 (1994) V8**** (60)*** 27.2*** 24.8*** 23.0*
*Chevy Sprint 993cc L4** (55)*** 24***** 20***** 25*
*Cosworth V8, 1965?***** (87)*** 21.5
*Cosworth 75 deg V8***** (52)*** 23.4*** 23.3*** 20.5*
*Cosworth HB 75 deg V8** (52,63) 23.4*** 23.3*** 20.5*
*Cosworth HB Series 6*** (70)*** 595mm
*Cosworth MBA V6******** (67)*** 26.25** 20.5*** 27.75*
*Cosworth XB V8********* (89)*** 22.2*** 21.7*** 21.9
*Cosworth ED 75 deg V8** (103)** 23.4*** 21.3(*)******* (*) inc Air filter

*Ford-Cosworth DOHC V8** (60)*** 22.2*** 21.7*** 21.9*
*Ford Mod V6 2.5L 60deg* (81)*** 22***** 24***** 24

*HS Performance 2.0 V8** (63)*** 488mm** 552mm** 478mm*
*Hart V10 F1, 72 deg V** (63)*** 622mm** 560mm** 535mm*
*Honda 3.5L 72 deg V10** (40,52) 24.4*** 21.7*** 21.3*

*Ilmor 2175A 72deg V10** (59)*** 592.5mm 519mm** 555mm*
*Ilmor DOHC V8/C******** (60)*** 22.0*** 22.0*** 22.8*
*Ilmor V-8-C************ (75)*** 22.1*** 22***** 22.8*

*Judd GV 72 deg V10***** (70)*** 630mm*

*Lamborghini F1 80degV12 (70)*** 719mm*
*Lycoming 36 cyl radial* (87)** +10 feet*

*Mercedes-Ilmor OHV V8** (60)*** 22.1*** 20.1*** 25.7*
*Mercedes-Ilmor DOHC V8* (89)*** 22.05** 21.85** 22.44*
*Mercedes F0110 75dg V10 (103)** 590mm** 485mm** 472mm*
*Mugen V10 72 deg******* (70)*** 620mm
*Mundy Trident W-12***** (85)*** 20.5*

*Nissan VRT35 GTP V12*** (66)*** 660mm** 577mm** 533mm*

*Renault G-ser. 2.2 12v* (107)** 515mm********** 598mm******** (1996)*
*Renault V10************ (52)*** 26.3*** 21.7*** 17.3
*Renault RS3B V10******* (70)*** 620mm*

*Subaru flat-12 F1****** (52)*** 29.3*** 28.5*** 15.7
*Suzuki H20A V6********* (92)*** 650mm** 620mm** 815mm* 60deg V6, 2L*

*Yamaha OX66 75 deg V6** (44)*** 16.5*** 21.5*
*Yamaha OX88 75 deg V8** (40,52) 22.0*** 22.4*
*Yamaha OX99 70 deg V12* (70)*** 725mm

*=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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*(75) Racecar Engineering, Vol 3 Number 3*
*(76) Racecar Engineering, Vol 2 Number 4*
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Dave and Ryan noted it already; it's a DOHC Saturn motor out of an SL2.

It is far from in the truck yet, and progress is very slow (I have no time to screw with it) but so far, it looks great. The intent was to drop weight; more power was just a side bonus.

As for some of the other performance engines mentioned... I really wasn't looking for a performance engine. I was looking for an EFI lightweight engine, and more importantly, a cheap engine. Got my Saturn motor at the Pick-n-pull for $50, plus a few extras (tranny, electronics, etc.) but all in all, very cheap (under $200 total). I know there's higher performing engines for the same weight, I know there's lighter engines, but I'll take this opportunity to challenge *anybody* to come up with (a) more power, in (b) a lighter weight package, for (c) less dollars. Less dollars is the big one.

I have yet to weigh the thing; I have lifted it (motor complete, minus tranny) alone, and based on the fact that I physically can (I'm 5'11" and about 160), I don't think it's 240 pounds. 200 maybe. Problem is, it's more cumbersome than an NV4500, but probably doesn't weigh more. That's the closest reference I've got; I don't have a scale that'll take 200 pounds anyway.

Schuss, courtesy of rice movies (the Fast and the Furious comes to mind) the performance import motors, are extremely expensive around here. I was actually looking for a 1.6 Suzuki when I came across the Saturn; it was kind of an "impulse buy"... one of those "well, for $50, who am I to say no to an aluminum EFI four cylinder?" things.

Someone should update the "pirate bible" with all thous engine facts....time consuming...but very good information.

Yeah for $50 that makes sense. I have found some of those engine numbers to be a little wierd too. It would not surprise me if the saturn motor came in way lighter than 240.

Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper
I don't have a scale that'll take 200 pounds anyway.

Use Regina's bathroom scale ;)

Due to the way the Rover V8 is made. They are a few more pounds the the Buick 215. I think the Olds motor comes in a bite heavier then the Buick. The rover motors are much harder then a Buick. You can get more power out a Rover with less work then a Buick.