: Which tires?
Alright, I'm not going to win my auction for the Boggers, so I'm buying tires from Daniel. They're surplus Humvee tires.
Question is which would you go with? I haven't found much info regarding either on the web.
Here's the choices:
Bias:
http://usa6x6.com/Military/Images/tires/tire3.jpg
Radial:
http://usa6x6.com/Military/Images/tires/tire2.jpg
I'm leaning towards the bias tires and begging/borrowing/stealing a tire groover...
road1will 03-21-2002, 01:32 PM im going with the radials on mine because i have to drive it every day. your idea with the groover sounds cool though and thats what i almost did.
adam
Yeah, let me add this is NOT a daily driver. It will be driven around town, but only occassionally and to the trails.
gunracer1 03-21-2002, 01:58 PM i ran a set of the bias ply and they lasted about 20k on a 8k lbs truck. but they were a pretty decent tire, the compond seemed soft and griped well.
road1will 03-21-2002, 02:16 PM actually im thinking of running the biases now that i pseudo grooved mine in PS. this is the grooving pattern i like best. notice how on the outer lugs i didnt run them all the way to the outside of the tire to help elinimate chunking.
fcfred 03-21-2002, 02:20 PM aren't the radials taller?
4x4extreme 03-21-2002, 03:55 PM How much does he ask for the radials
road1will 03-21-2002, 04:08 PM $50 whether bias or radial.
im still havin a tough time decidin which uns to go with- now im leaning more towards the rads again! :rolleyes:
scoobydann 03-21-2002, 05:10 PM http://4x4.alloffroad.com/images/dsc00640.jpg
i went w/ the radials---excellent ride, an inch taller than the bias, havent wheeled w/ them just yet but by the end of the week i will give you an update
clc900 03-21-2002, 05:22 PM Originally posted by 9-Volt
$50 whether bias or radial.
im still havin a tough time decidin which uns to go with- now im leaning more towards the rads again! :rolleyes:
$50! What sizes does he have? I need some 16.5" around 37" or 38" tall. Daniel are you out there? I need some!
road1will 03-21-2002, 05:31 PM Originally posted by clc900
$50! What sizes does he have? I need some 16.5" around 37" or 38" tall. Daniel are you out there? I need some!
youre in luck! he has radials in 37x12.5R16.5 (the tires you see on hummer all the time now) for $50... just dont buy 100 of them, cause thats all hes got and i need to order a set!
BlueBeast 03-21-2002, 05:47 PM what kind of milage can a guy get out of a set of radials. i'm getting brand new MTs and want to know how long they last. i've heard they wear like iron.
Originally posted by Daniel
Mo you didnt tell me you wanted them CUT
Heres the deal if you want them cut I can do it for you and i want $10 a tire because you are the first to have hummers cut... Just let me know what you want...
I'll call you tomorrow...
Probably going to go with the bias tires with a bit of cutting... I just see the three inner strips as having no bite.
Off to photochop.
LostIt 03-21-2002, 07:07 PM To the people who have used the bias ply, how well did they work off road, especially in the mud and on muddy rocks? What size are these tires (actual width and heigth)? I could definitly use a set of cheap tires for my next project.
Watchyall think of grooving them like this?
Basically removing the S shape in the two inner contact areas to make them actual lugs.
Paul Gagnon 03-21-2002, 10:33 PM Originally posted by 9-Volt
actually im thinking of running the biases now that i pseudo grooved mine in PS. this is the grooving pattern i like best. notice how on the outer lugs i didnt run them all the way to the outside of the tire to help elinimate chunking. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=419815
What a retarded tread pattern. That won't improve off road performance.
Paul Gagnon 03-21-2002, 10:58 PM Originally posted by Mo
Watchyall think of grooving them like this?
Basically removing the S shape in the two inner contact areas to make them actual lugs.
Mo how about something like this, cut on either side of the middle of the S shaped thing. That would give you a combination of smaller and larger lugs. Also cut the centre rib straight across at equal distance(say 1.5 inch intervals) all the way around. Here's a very rough picture.
flmanyj 03-22-2002, 04:11 AM they are only 30 dollars here in florida:flipoff2:
Dick Hertzer 03-22-2002, 05:28 AM Just wondering, are they all 16.5" rim size?
Originally posted by Dick Hertzer
Just wondering, are they all 16.5" rim size?
In the above pics, yes.
Get the radials. i had some of the Wrangler II's and they sucked in the mud, loud (louder than my TSL's are now! i don't know ow, they just are), wore funny and were a beiotch to balance:nuke:. I sold them to a friend that just needed to have something to wheel around his chasis. The MT/R's are some of the best tires out there and if they made them in a 40" i would problaby sell a kindey to a rouge ex-Soviet scientist to afford them. but what do i know :flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Get the radials.
AzWebMan 03-22-2002, 12:40 PM I drove HMMWV's in the Army for 6 years. The bias ones sucked, they wore funny, didn't work in the mud at all (it was Panama, can't tell you if they work on rocks), wobbled, etc...
I was so happy when we got the radials in to replace them that I went down to the motorpool to change them on a day off!
M2C,
- Mike
Originally posted by AzXTV
I drove HMMWV's in the Army for 6 years. The bias ones sucked, they wore funny, didn't work in the mud at all (it was Panama, can't tell you if they work on rocks), wobbled, etc...
I was so happy when we got the radials in to replace them that I went down to the motorpool to change them on a day off!
M2C,
- Mike
BWAHAHAHAHA! ain't that the truth! My 39.5 TSL that don't balance ride better than my Wrangler II's did!
BJ On Roids 03-22-2002, 04:20 PM Originally posted by Paul Gagnon
Mo how about something like this, cut on either side of the middle of the S shaped thing. That would give you a combination of smaller and larger lugs. Also cut the centre rib straight across at equal distance(say 1.5 inch intervals) all the way around. Here's a very rough picture.
that looks a lot like the simex pattern used in the jungles of malaysia, and starting to be mroe common here in oz
badassjeepguy 03-22-2002, 09:07 PM id go biased, just dont like them torn radial sidewalls................ groove the biased, and youll be happy
Alrighty..... talked to daniel and went with the bias tires. Might not ride as well, but this is pretty much a trail only vehicle, so I'm not too concerned (at least not right now) with the ride. I think I can get more bite out of those tires by grooving out those center three strips.
They're gonna be cut like Paul drew. Thanks for the idea paul.
And I've heard nothing but good about the Simex tires... got a website? love to see more about them.
Now I've just gotta get everything put together.
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