Who knows about these, this is a stock transfer case that is in my 98 1500 slt Ram.
I found that out yesterday. Why? Well, it seems my drive line had been bent for a while, about 6 weeks now I'm guessing.
That caused some vibration, that yes i noticed, but chose to ignore.
Yesterday, on the highway at about 80mph all that vibrating stopped all at once.. until it got back down to 60, then again at 45. So, that was new.
I stopped popped my head under there to see that part of the yoke nose was cracked. The retainer housing to be exact.
Now, i may not be using the correct words, so the part i am referring to as the yoke nose, is simply A: The retainer housing, and B: the extension housing off the back of the transfer case, and in that order.
Well, after finding a new drive line, and a retainer, i went back to the shop to put them in.
Here is where my questions start.
First, what the hell kind of ring pliers are you supposed to use to get that huge a$$ C ring off the Shaft locking the retainer in place. *I didn't wait, i got it off with screw drivers and now its bent.
Second, that plate that is exposed after you get the retainer off, looks to be an oilier plate with a bearing oilier, whats that all about?
OK, so i got it all apart only to find that not only did i crack the retainer, the threaded receive area on the top left of the transfer case where one of the bolts for the retainer go in busted about a 1/2" of the metal out.
It also started a stress crack. If i can find a good aluminum welder is it going to help to try and and weld that stress crack?
Or am i looking at buying a new transfer case cuz this one has a hole in it now?
When i put it all back together, i RTVed the hell out of it. So that should take care of the hole.. Right?
Also, that C ring, i told you i bent it..
How crusall is it that that thing be fully seated back in the grove on the shaft?
For the most part it is fully seated, but it is bent just a bit, and if one side is in, the other is not by a {expletive} hair.
After seeing what i have under there, i have to say, NP could take some advise from Borg Warner.
Not impressed with there aluminum {expletive}.
That should not have broke from a out of balance drive shaft.. Should it?
The NP replacement even Used is way to much money, if i am looking at replacing the transfer case, what else can i put in there?
Thanks guys!!
Wish me luck!
Zak.

That c ring is crucial. Get a new one. Teraflex has them or you should be able to match it up at a hardware store. You may be able to weld the case back together, I've seen it done. I full expect that it would break from a messed up driveshaft, that is a lot of force exerted in a direction the case was not designed to handle.

The plate is the xfer case oil pump. If that is not put back in properly the case will fail catastrophically within very few miles.

As far as the snap ring pliers you need, just get a good set and I have never had trouble with any of the snap rings on any of the 231 cases. Since you have the thing apart now is a good time to replace the 3 gear planetary with a 6 gear set from a 241.

OH I forgot Damn Wenzelites. :FU:

OK, went and got a new c ring, and ring pliers..
Tore it all apart again, glad i did, found HUGE chunk of Tcase in said Tcase, put C ring in and will try this again.
Thank you for your help.
That 3 over to 6 thing sounds good.
What all does that entail? Is there a wright up anywhere or a how to?

Switching to the 6 gear planetary is very simple. You have to disassemble the case like you just finished doing. On the front side is a bearing retainer with 4? (I can not remember) bolts, remove that. Remove a few more snap rings, and it falls out. Put it back together with the new planetary gearset.

Look for writeups on converting the jeep 231 to the 6 gear planetary sets. They are the same case, with minor differences. You should have a better 1.25 wide chain and a few other differences.

Used cases are cheap... You may want to replace it altogether with a 241 from a 2500.

Used cases are cheap... You may want to replace it altogether with a 241 from a 2500.

that is my plan. i picked up the 241 for free but i need to make sure the input shaft is the same size and make sures it s not trashed inside.

Please post when you find out if its a direct swap or what all is envolved.

input for the manual trans 241's is 29 spline... autos might be diffrent but not sure... if you swap to a 241you will still have the same problem... the weak gumball case. the 231's fail when the cheep case splits and renades... well so dose the 241...

this is from a 99 cummins with 305 a/t's

http://www.dodgetrucks.org/gallery/data/500/medium/tow_rig_14.jpg

Well here are more examples of NPs alluminum casses failing this is a 208

http://x11.putfile.com/11/31821411763.jpg

I broke this 5 minuites after getting to the wheelin spote then wheeled it for about 2/3 hours before i noticed it then as soon as i wanted to leave it dang near hit the groung on me.

There is also a heavy duty c clip as when that one popes off, it can cause internal damage to the case (as it did with mine)

To make you feel better, my tc broke at 34k miles and 61k miles.

Hmm.. got it all back together. Did a floor test, was good. Did a Fwd, Rev. test, that was good.
Went out to the highway, then things got interesting.
Noticed a small, tight squeal. It didn't even last long enough to pull over and look underneath.
Continuing on down the highway, no more sequel, no vibration, this was at 75mph. Time to bump it up a bit.
took it to a 100mph. kept it there for a while. Nice and smooth, just like when i first got it!
Took it up to 125mph. Everything was good, no vibration, no noise, no nothing!
Cool, its fixed..
Time to go home and show the wife i can work on my own shit.
Pulled off the highway, went home. Got a call from some guys that wanted to go dirt biking. They got there and we loaded up and headed for the hills.
Got about 2 miles out of town and wouldn't you know it!
Squeal, grind, grind.. grind....

Shit...

Sounds to me like the pump is not lined up right to the nipple it goes into, and that might have caused a problem.
Still runs fine, works fine, i put it in 4low and power braked it to see if the tcase was going to break. NOPE.
So, took it home, and that's where it will sit until better weather to tear it back apart.
This time, i will take pictures and post them, just so there is no misunderstanding on what it is that I'm doing.
Stay tuned! and thanks for your help guys!
Zak.

Some times life just plain sucks..

The fuking output shaft bearing seized up and wana guess where all those little balls ended up?
You got it, in the fukin Tcase.
Now im taking the Tcase to have it rebuilt..

BTW. if it wasn't for bad luck i would have none. I said there would be pictures, but i cant seem to find my camera that was in the truck. It would appear i got jacked! Stereo, Camera, even my pipe that was in the counsel.. Asshats!

I wonder if new process did anything wright?

input for the manual trans 241's is 29 spline
not all of them. 360 gas 2500's have 23 spline 241's. i've got a nv4500 in mine from a 360 gas 2500 w/ 23 spline output.

my bad... will make a note of that then... all cummins 241's have 29 splines. i would, assume, the v-10's fall into that catagory as well.

yep... cummins/v10's are 29.

Well zak just went to the junkyard today and bought one because he was in a hurry so does anyone out there have a good 231/d that they would sell and ship to sturgis south dakota at a decent price so that he can return it to the bone yard and save a doller or too?

shut up ankle bitter.

$850.00 dollars latter and its fixed.
O- plus a $330. digi camera that got swiped, and a box of Cd's worth about $200. worth..
All this cuz i didn't fix a bent drive line...
FuK ME.

Note to self..

If it looks broke, feels broke, its proble broke.
Fix IT!

So, just got back from a 1500mile road trip. The TCase did well, but didn't want to disengage from 4wh High while on the highway. The speeds where around 75-85, and on snow and ice.
Any clue?
Also, what other Tcases can go in this thing?
I have heard there is a ton of them that will bolt right in> is this true?

Yes they will all bolt inn as long as the spline count is wright but the connections will have to be custom (ie linkage and wires)

I wonder if new process did anything wright?

I'd believe not, I fuxored a 241 with my first half ton setup and 38.5's, and by fuxored I mean it wouldnt even try to drive in 2wd. :laughing: Said it before the best thing for dodges is to just go atlas or possibly D300 w/32 spline outputs.