Has anyone seen the type of d-shackle that is quick release? I'm thinking those could be a major time saver in the Outback Challenge but I can't seem to find anything on them.

Any info would be great!

Thanks,

What do you mean by quick release ?

Somewhere I saw something like a flip pin that locked into place to hold the main load bearing pin steady. The d-shackle wasn't threaded at one end and the pin slid straight through then locked with the pin. It wasn't a cotter pin, it was something stout that was connected to the actuall pin.

Am I crazy?

Has anyone seen the type of d-shackle that is quick release? I'm thinking those could be a major time saver in the Outback Challenge but I can't seem to find anything on them.

Most of the time the real competitors are just going to use hooks not shackles because you don't have to take the time to lock them in...

Most of the time the real competitors are just going to use hooks not shackles because you don't have to take the time to lock them in...

http://www.recoverygear.com/images/newhook.jpeg

yup.

-Jeff

Pug, in every piece of OBC footage I've seen guys are using the standard screwping schackles. A hook isn't that safe when your connecting say a winch line extension to a winch line or using a treestrap to a snatch pulley.

We do have a one-handed hook on the winch lines front and rear but shackles are required per the manual for safe operations of connecting auxilary straps or lines.

Am I crazy?

Yes!

....I'm thinking those could be a major time saver in the Outback Challenge but I can't seem to find anything on them....

Don't sweat it, that will be the least of your problems :cool2:

I can see where you're coming from.
The CCDA rules that govern this event specify standard shackles.
I'd imagine if you did find a quick release one, they'd probably reject it at scrutineering, even if it was as strong or stronger than a standard shackle.

Look at it this way, every other team MUST use the same shackles for winch extensions, snatch blocks and sand anchor connections, so quickest hands wins!

Re regulations: What is a "standard shackle"
I buy more and more of these:

http://i.pbase.com/o4/08/611408/1/52692245.Shackle.gif

They are certified for lifting at a safety factor of 4.5. I use the ones for 2 tonnes, giving a min breaking strength of 9 tons, plenty more than my winch line. Marginal for attaching a snatch block, but I don't use them for that, I use the 3 ton's for that.
The pin is threaded, but not the shackle, so a nut is screwed onto the pin and the nut secured by a smaller pin. How omitting the nut affects strength is up to you.

Otherwise Gunnebo Lifting has a nice series of hooks, both for chain, wire and more interresting for strops.

http://i.pbase.com/o4/08/611408/1/52692277.strophook.gif

If you put one of these at each end of your tree strops and then use a master link

http://i.pbase.com/o4/08/611408/1/52692241.Masterlink.gif

and connect the winch wire hook to the master link as well you have extremely fast and efficient rigging.

Tobias

Pug, in every piece of OBC footage I've seen guys are using the standard screwping schackles. A hook isn't that safe when your connecting say a winch line extension to a winch line or using a treestrap to a snatch pulley.

We do have a one-handed hook on the winch lines front and rear but shackles are required per the manual for safe operations of connecting auxilary straps or lines.Yeah, you're right - I was thinking more of the older CT stuff, it was all hook and go. They are being safer these days!

ok so why can you not machine out the threads on your "standard shackel and drill a hole through both pieces and install a (snap pin) i think thats what they call them at the tractor store ?
Is that to afro for you ?
:flipoff2:

OK guys, stop reinventing the wheel. The shackles you're describing are common usage in agricultural applications. Tractor supply has them in a wide array of sizes and working loads.

One thing I've done is remove the hair-pin clips and replace them with torsion pins that snap over the pin.

Tractor Supply is a source for many things necessary to outift a truck, easily accessible and cheap!

PT

Yup, Tractor Supply is our friend!
Hi-Lift jack, cast $43. Multiple straps in all sizes capacities and lenghts. Shackles, hooks, blocks, you name it! All at anti-bling prices.
You can't get everything you want there, but you can get most of it.

OK guys, stop reinventing the wheel. The shackles you're describing are common usage in agricultural applications. Tractor supply has them in a wide array of sizes and working loads.


PT

Northern Tool and Equipment also sells them,I have two of them.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=390603&R=390603

Northern Tool and Equipment also sells them,I have two of them.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=390603&R=390603


There is a Tractor Supply right around the corner from the shop, I can go and fondle the shackles and not have to pay shipping, nor wait for delivery.

But, if you don't have a Tractor store nearby, Northern's probably the way to go.

PT

There is a Tractor Supply right around the corner from the shop, I can go and fondle the shackles and not have to pay shipping, nor wait for delivery.I thought I was the only one who took guilty pleasure in fondling the implements at TSC! :p

I got one from TSC and it is quicker but the only issue is if you drop the pin in water or goop. Its harder to find than the screw type, especially if your wearing gloves, so maybe duct tape a couple extra pins to the truck just in case. Gordo

I got one from TSC and it is quicker but the only issue is if you drop the pin in water or goop. Its harder to find than the screw type, especially if your wearing gloves, so maybe duct tape a couple extra pins to the truck just in case. Gordo

Gordo:
First off, welcome to the board.

I try to keep a handful of the torsion pins in my truck just for this reason. But, I've also dropped many shackles into the mud as well

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions guys. Still not finding what I'm looking for. If you could picture a groove in the pin with a locking latch that pivots up and down on an angle...when you slide the pin through the latch gets pressed into the groove. Once the latch is past the furthest eye it pops open stopping you from pulling the pin back through w/o pushing it back down into the groove.

Thanks for confirming that BTW Larry! :)

OK guys, stop reinventing the wheel. The shackles you're describing are common usage in agricultural applications. Tractor supply has them in a wide array of sizes and working loads.

One thing I've done is remove the hair-pin clips and replace them with torsion pins that snap over the pin.


Sounds exactly like the shackles on military vehicles. Used for tie-downs, lifting, and recovery/towing. The main pin and the hairclip are both on retaining chains, so not so worrysome about loosing.
I have one somewhere that has a 2.5" dia pin. Shackle weighs around 50lbs.

I use the shackles from TSC and just string a bit of safety wire between the clip and the "handle" on the other side of the pin. That way you are not losing the clip unless you lose the pin as well.

I got one from TSC and it is quicker but the only issue is if you drop the pin in water or goop. Its harder to find than the screw type, especially if your wearing gloves, so maybe duct tape a couple extra pins to the truck just in case. Gordo

Sounds exactly like the shackles on military vehicles. Used for tie-downs, lifting, and recovery/towing. The main pin and the hairclip are both on retaining chains, so not so worrysome about loosing.
That's how the Dixon Bate ones come equipped...

Thanks for confirming that BTW Larry! :)

Glad I could help.