So we're putting the D60 front, 14B rear in this weekend, unshaved. Which means three things:

1. on fullwidth, the 38's are gonna look funny
2. I'm going to be digging trenches with the diffs
3. The jeep's starting to feel little...

So I'm thinking about new tires. I was thinking 42's... but then I thought, well wtf, if i'm going to pay that much $$ i might as well drop an extra $120 and get the 44's right?

But then I was thinking... Are 44's too big to be practical? At what point do big tires make it _harder_ to get in/out of stuff?

I'm not building a mud truck, this sucker is for rocks & snow mostly..

-J

The down side to 44's is usually the width, most people don't want to be that wide. The 42's are the closest, but without the width. That said, the only guy I know that stepped from 42's to 44's was amazed at how much better they worked. Both were TSL's. It makes for a super wide setup. They also take a lot more fender clearance to work right.

If you just hack off the bottom lip of the 14 bolt up to the bottom 3 bolt heads (leaving them untouched) you'll get 3/4-1" of added clearance.

I did it on mine w/a sawzall and smoothed out what was left w/a grinder. Took two hours and brought the 14 bolt to within 1/4" of the axle-centerline to diff-bottom measurement for my ford 60 front.

Better than nothing

since you mentioned snow- the bigger the better. I'm currently thinking of trading my 42" tsl for some 44" cepeks for the snow exclusively and sticking to 38 or 39 for the rocks. My favorite wheelin' is snow and the rocks are just ok too!

Originally posted by bigdude
If you just hack off the bottom lip of the 14 bolt up to the bottom 3 bolt heads (leaving them untouched) you'll get 3/4-1" of added clearance.

I did it on mine w/a sawzall and smoothed out what was left w/a grinder. Took two hours and brought the 14 bolt to within 1/4" of the axle-centerline to diff-bottom measurement for my ford 60 front.

Better than nothing

Are you talkin' smoothing w/o cutting&welding the housing? an inch? Shit i'm all over that.

mmM 44's...

Related question: How wide is too wide?

I'm fullwidth, ~69wms front 67wms rear, 8-10" rims, 4" backspacing ish, thats like 84" wide on 12.5 tires, and like 88 wide on 44's...


-J

for around here, yep that's too wide.

So 42's @ 15" wide??

-J

my GM 44 with 38x14.5s with 10"-3.5 b.s. i'm 84-1/2". no problems with width yet.:beer:

I am 88 in the front and my only problem so far is no Barret Trail :( and finding a damn trailer itll fit on for less than 3 grand

my concern with going to 44 or even the 42 inch tires is my d60 will start snapping like my d44 was with 35s. i swapped it so i wouldnt be replacing axles as often and with tires that big i think id be back in the same boat. i stuck with 39.5s for now maybe bigger tires will go on if i dont break often with the 39.5s.

i didn't know they could be too big. With the ditch witch in the rear you want some 39.5s or larger.

I think Kevin Yoder runs 42s on his CJ7. they seem to work well for him.

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v3/0/50/64/29805064zMKDhVWZnA_ph

His wife doesnt seem to like em though :laughing:

those look to me like 39" boggers on cut down axles. 38s dont "look" goofy on full width axles. if your constantly hung up on the axles then go bigger. 42s should be a good compromise of highth and width. try the 38s for awhile unless you already had problems of sitting on the axles. just my .02 (and thats about all its worth):flipoff2:

i run 42 tsl's and i think they are the perrfect comprimise of weight/height/width...gonna try some 44's soon though.

the size of your jeep is inversely proportioned to how often it is drivable. the more work you do to it, the less it will run. with that being said.

http://www.4xvideo.com/reports/lefthand/images/104-0476_IMG.jpg

>How big is too big?

Any bigger than this (on my jeep anyway)
http://www.oldjeep.com/images/032302/032302Front.jpg

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
those look to me like 39" boggers

you might be right. he has 42s on it now.

this question is like asking a woman.. ahhh how big is..???? to big!!!!

Are you talkin' smoothing w/o cutting&welding the housing? an inch? Shit i'm all over that.

Yep. I wasn't into welding and fawking w/ the ring gear. We took a good hard look a t the axle and with that lip cut off there is still 3/4+ inches of housing left. That's plenty strong.

Just made 3 cuts with the sawzall passing right by the bolt heads (which have a flared top making them as wide as a normal head w/a washer). Then I smotthed it with the grinder till I liked the way it looked.

My end result was 1"+ gain. Close enough to the 60 that I don't feel bad running 37's.

42s, didn't he go coilovers in the rear also? (sorry, off subject):p

Originally posted by yjtj
my concern with going to 44 or even the 42 inch tires is my d60 will start snapping like my d44 was with 35s. i swapped it so i wouldnt be replacing axles as often and with tires that big i think id be back in the same boat. i stuck with 39.5s for now maybe bigger tires will go on if i dont break often with the 39.5s.

I've got the bigarse forklift inners with 35spl outers, and the dutchman alloy 35spliers in the rear. I don't think i'll be breaking the axles, even on 44's...

That said...

I'll probably try it on 38's for a while and see how it goes. If I have helluva problems banging the diffs around, guess I'll buy bigger meats. Thanks guys.

-J

i just had to toss this in here when i found it in the scrambler thread.

http://www.thefrog.alloffroad.com/images/83.jpg

Originally posted by aaronlosey
[B]i just had to toss this in here when i found it in the scrambler thread.


Are those 44's? How do you like them? Boggers vs reg-TSL's??

-J

Originally posted by aaronlosey
i just had to toss this in here when i found it in the scrambler thread.

http://www.thefrog.alloffroad.com/images/83.jpg

Wonder what Yokohama thinks about this dude running boggers...? :rasta:

alot of guys in OK run 44's and they do ok. little to wide and long for the tight trails BIG (http://www.wagonermachine.com/wheelin_pics.htm) RIGS (http://www.extreme4wheelin.com/images/big_meat_02/pictures.htm) <--this one is 44's only run.

Chris G.

looks like fun ... but do all the trees grow sideways in oaklahoma...few shots had some serious camera tiltin goin on

Originally posted by nmujeepin
looks like fun ... but do all the trees grow sideways in oaklahoma...few shots had some serious camera tiltin goin on

kinda...are you a photographer? it is not easy to hold the cam straigh if there is a 44 about to make a track up you ass. the one at the bottom with the green rig...the cam is not tilted..look again.

Chris G.

actually i am a photographer its my minor....i know how sometimes you need to lean it a little to give for some of the realism....constructive critisism that shit was way nasty anyway

damn that backfired! hahaha

ya now that i look agian it is a little cocked on a pic or to where i know he was standing on flat ground

Chris G.

Originally posted by Chrisjeep7
damn that backfired! hahaha

ya now that i look agian it is a little cocked on a pic or to where i know he was standing on flat ground

Chris G. lol they still look good though:smokin: and no way in hell mybig ole 33 sx's would be cruisin in there jsut not a big dog yet

You might want to think about extending your wheelbase a little too. This will at least get you a little closer to being able to do a slickrock type obstacle when you're that high

You might want to think about extending your wheelbase a little too. This will at least get you a little closer to being able to do a slickrock type obstacle when you're that high

Just an FYI newb,

I've seen stock (close to stock at least) wheelbase Jeeps with 40"+ tires whoop slickrock. And yes they were tall too. Seeing you're on the east coast, will you be at ERocC in April? I'm guessing since you seem to know how to set up a Jeep so well that I'll see you competing. Right:question: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by A 4 liter V8 eater
You might want to think about extending your wheelbase a little too. This will at least get you a little closer to being able to do a slickrock type obstacle when you're that high

We're building the suspension for ~102" wheelbase I believe... And it really won't be that high, we actually took 1" of lift _out_ from what I had with 38's... I'll just cut more sheetmetal :D

http://www.bigfoot4x4.com/photo-gallery/gallery-2001/images/may01-200.jpg

thats too big

Originally posted by A 4 liter V8 eater
http://www.bigfoot4x4.com/photo-gallery/gallery-2001/images/may01-200.jpg

thats too big

I'd LOVE to see that in the box!!

Originally posted by Aggro


I'd LOVE to see that in the box!!

I don't think it would fit IN the box, but it might fit ON the box :D