Gents... My brother is needing to replace the ol 4.2 in the CJ7. We've been holding out for a low milage TBI. He has on hold (today only, hence the urgency) an '01 305 out of a full size Chevy van with 20k on it. The guy is telling him it's TBI, is that right? I would have thought an 01 would be Vortec?? Is it one of the "new style" motors they went to 1999. I thought those were just in the truck line.

Anyway, should we snag this thing? He wants 1300.00 for everything. Behind it will go a T18.

Thanks!!!:D

If it's an 01, it shoud be a Vortec (Multi port), but I thought they quit making the 305 a few years back??

Jeff

I have no advice to offer on this (I don't know Jack $hit about new cars)


But I thought that it was funny that you posted "Need help quick... should we buy an 01 305 chebby?"

And your Sig says "The lack of preperation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. "

:flipoff2:

Ignore the flanged comment, he misread something I typed in an email.

I too thought the 305 went bye bye in 99 when they released the new line of Vortec motors. Regardless, IF it is an '01, it will be Vortec, and IF it's a 305 and '01, it'll be Vortec. Unless GM did something hokey in their full size vans.

Looks like the 305 (Or 5.0 however you look at it, is still offered in Vans) Says SFI is the injection type and yes it should be a Vortec. If it's not, they guy is either wrong or lying about what the motor is. I think it was 97 when all if not most of the GM motors went to Vortec. :D:D:D

Engine Type
Vortec 5000 V8

RPO
L30

Displacement (cu. in./liters)
305/5.0

Bore & stroke (in.)
3.74 x 3.48

(mm)
95 x 88

Compression ratio
9.4:1

Cylinder block material
cast-iron

Cylinder head material
cast-iron

Valvetrain configuration
OHV

Valves/cylinder
2
Induction system
SFI

Ignition system
direct

Lifters
hydraulic roller

Cam drive
chain

Coolant capacity (quarts/liters)
17.0/16.0 (20.0/18.9)(1)

Oil capacity (quarts/liters)
5.0/4.7

Alternator rating (amps)
105

Battery (SAE rating, cca)
600

Recommended unleaded fuel
87 octane

Maximum engine speed (RPM)
5600

Horsepower/kW @ engine RPM
220/164 @ 4600

Torque (lb.-ft/N-m) @ engine RPM
280/380 @2800

OH yeah, got the information from

http://www.chevrolet.com/express/index.htm

2002 and 2003 Vans are the same as the 2000 and 2001 vans.

Originally posted by Scout Dude
I have no advice to offer on this (I don't know Jack $hit about new cars)


But I thought that it was funny that you posted "Need help quick... should we buy an 01 305 chebby?"

And your Sig says "The lack of preperation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. "

:flipoff2:

Right. This is NOT an emergency, it's PREPERATION! :flipoff2:

Damn... do I have to explain everything to you. :rolleyes:

OK. Vortec it is. How about tranny's. Think we'll have options or be stuck with some wired new chevy pattern?

Originally posted by LOPPY


Right. This is NOT an emergency, it's PREPERATION! :flipoff2:

Damn... do I have to explain everything to you. :rolleyes:

OK. Vortec it is. How about tranny's. Think we'll have options or be stuck with some wired new chevy pattern?

NV4500!!! :D:D:D:D

I don't think they are a weird pattern. But I have to go by my dad's shop today, I will ask the service manager and see if he knows....(Doubt it, but worth asking) :D:D:D

Thanks Glo dude. Great info. We're thinking if it's a true 305, it has to have the original pattern. I think it'll make a nice little motor for the 7.

Originally posted by LOPPY
Thanks Glo dude. Great info. We're thinking if it's a true 305, it has to have the original pattern. I think it'll make a nice little motor for the 7.

No problem. I agree, any motor with over 200 horse and more torque than horsepower is a pretty good choice. I am holding out for a vortec in my cruiser. :D:D Hoping my dad can score me a full crate motor at his cost. If so, I am in there!! :D:D:D

When chevy went vortec you could still get the 5.0 even in the trucks.

As for tranny stuff, you might have to change the harness to a standard harness so the computer doesnt freak out when it is looking for signals from the auto tranny. Might just want to get the auto and have the best of both worlds :D.

for that price go for it. than be on the look out for a NV4500 :grinpimp:

That or AA make adapters to mate a turbo squirrel Yugo engine to a TH375 so i think you will be fine:D

Yeah, NV4500 would be tits. But a good ol SM420 would do the trick to.

So, the key is make sure it's 305 cu in. displacement. not the smaller 5.0 verson. Cool.

Thanks for the help doods. You guys rock. as usual.
:beer:

I thought 305's died with the 4 bolt mains...

5.0 liters is 305 cubic inches, the conversion is 61 cubic inches= 1 liter...the 5.0 fords are actually 4.95 liters...

As noted above, the 2001 MY engine will be a Vortec. Before you purchase this engine make sure that you will be able to use the transmission of your choice with it. The GEN III Vortec engines (beginning with the 2000 model year) use a new aluminum oil pan that includes a portion of the bellhousing. This means that you just can't just slap an old bellhousing on it and bolt up your transmission. You are restricted to using one of the transmissions that was a factory option for this specific engine (i.e, 4L60E or perhaps the NV4500). I would want to check out the possibilities before putting the $$ down.

AFAIK 305's werent made that year. You dont want a 305 IMO they suck long stroke small bore :rolleyes: works great for steam engines but not so hot for internal combustion. So its a good thing the 305 (unless aftermarket) wasnt put in stuff in 01. I helped purchase an 01 GMC truck and the smallest v8 was a 5.3-ish liter. Thats what we ended up buying (TPI btw) and its STRONG for a 1/2 ton truck tows like a dream compared to years before. They had a v6 (4.3) but it had to have a fleet package to get it plus well not enough power for towing... I have a 95 w/ a real 5.0 305 what a turd (hate it and in the process of getting it out for a 350. everyone I know hates the 305 be it carbed or EFI'ed. So I personally wouldnt get it and get a $500 long block outta the paper or something. But if you are absolutely dead set on a v8 and you cant pass this deal go for it. OR if it comes with all the wires and computer plus efi stuff and its like a grand I would pay that for just the efi stuff.

In 96 Chevy went to Vortec and you could get a 305 in a truck up til 99 when they went to the new motors.

You better make sure you can do the wiring yourself unless you want to pay big bucks.www.speedscenewiring.com has a harness the new trucks have anti thieft,and a fuel vapor system that has to be in place or faked out.

Originally posted by baddbilt
You better make sure you can do the wiring yourself unless you want to pay big bucks.www.speedscenewiring.com has a harness the new trucks have anti thieft,and a fuel vapor system that has to be in place or faked out.


yep this Motor Has some Serious Wiring
You will need a 96 Computer to get rid of the VATS that year it was major Pain to remove since the 99 and later versions it cost's about 200 more to re program! and the fuel vapor systems can be removed!!!!

but is this vehicle going into a Smog legal rig or not????

I have the Hook up at Speed Scene contact Zack And tell him Adam Tobias Sent you!


Adam,

Lopp Most of the wiring and Computer will not do you any good
you will need 96 comp, and different wiring or do it your self most of the stuff goes into the Chevy Cluster and takes specific plug. As far as 305 VS 350 it is better than his old motor!

The motor is Probably 99 I Just sold a 99 L35 Motor 5.7 great motor!
If he is looking to Cut corners and cost is A concern then stick with the TBI 350 My 2 cents !
Because the late model vortec motor can be expensive to get right but when done right it Will scream!

Also the auto computer requires the auto Tranny!
the Computer has the code burned into it . So reprogram fee for the 99 or 01 if it is will be 400 buck's if this motor came out of a auto to swap over to a stick 200 dollars more than other reprogram time.
Remember you went through this Before with your Computer you got the prom from Howell You can not swap the Prom and be good Totally different beast!!

also Reluctor ring setup kinda like VSS but more money!
Oh yeah 4 O2 sensors 2 cats and MAS air
thing's to consider


Adam,


hey lop Check this out go with one of these for Alot More money!

someone's been doin' their homework.........:D


Adam I will be calling you for an adapter to mate a th350 to a dana300...talk to you soon!

Originally posted by BigRob
someone's been doin' their homework.........:D


Adam I will be calling you for an adapter to mate a th350 to a dana300...talk to you soon!




let Me know

Adam,