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Hi I'm buying a building from these guys, they import from you guys done south but keep them in stock. http://easybuild.ca
Anyone have one of these building? I'm building a 24 x 48 x 12 tall shop.
My big concern is noise, I'm moving my blacksmithing shop/ fab shop home and I'm not really suppose to be running a businesss out of there but a hobby shop is fine ;) so I want to make it as sound proof as possible.
I was thinking of adding 2x4 (wood) cross bars and insulating the hell out of the walls and then going 5/8" drywall. The building comes with thermal insulation for the roof.
Any one know of a good way to insulate these?
jdrocks
12-05-2005, 06:44 PM
you can google up stc ratings for different wall systems, but for practical purposes what you're planning sounds good since you probably need the thermal insulation anyway. seal up the shell before you start-this will help both the thermal and sound performance. check the recommendations for a vapor barrier directly behind the sheetrock.
redrangie
12-05-2005, 08:21 PM
spray it with foam, then remnant 22ga sheet with tek screws?
mudslinger99
12-05-2005, 11:34 PM
I used some foam panels something like these..
http://www.valleykithomes.com.au/options-images/panelite.jpg
We put them in a shop that makes wood truss systems for the same reason that you need them.. He runs the shop 24/7 and the people that lived close by were complaining about the noise from all the machines running.. The ones we used came in 4x8 sheets and were about 2 inches thick but you can get them in different thickness'.. They also provide some R value but it's been so long ago, I can't remember the amount..
78bronco460
12-06-2005, 03:44 AM
egg cartons
actionpaintball
12-06-2005, 06:26 AM
egg cartons
That why every garage band has them-cheap and effective (the foam ones anyway)
Insulating and sound dampening properties are often VERY similar-so if you insulate well-its probably going to absorb/deflect sound well.
Ken Carter / BRUISER
12-06-2005, 06:31 AM
Hi I'm buying a building from these guys, they import from you guys done south but keep them in stock. http://easybuild.ca
Anyone have one of these building? I'm building a 24 x 48 x 12 tall shop.
My big concern is noise, I'm moving my blacksmithing shop/ fab shop home and I'm not really suppose to be running a businesss out of there but a hobby shop is fine ;) so I want to make it as sound proof as possible.
I was thinking of adding 2x4 (wood) cross bars and insulating the hell out of the walls and then going 5/8" drywall. The building comes with thermal insulation for the roof.
Any one know of a good way to insulate these?
If ya don't mind me asking what kinda price for that I do not see any prices on there site??
Wally74
12-06-2005, 06:59 AM
My big concern is noise, I'm moving my blacksmithing shop/ fab shop home and I'm not really suppose to be running a businesss out of there but a hobby shop is fine ;) so I want to make it as sound proof as possible.
I was thinking of adding 2x4 (wood) cross bars and insulating the hell out of the walls and then going 5/8" drywall. The building comes with thermal insulation for the roof.
When I read 'blacksmithing' I saw fire and sparks... then I thought roxul.. Its a fire resistant mineral wool thats a ton easier to install than fiberglass. I'd stay away from wood 2x4s also and use steel studs instead
http://www.roxul.com
Thanks for the Roxul link...that stuff looks like it might be the ticket.
Though about using steel studs, I'll have to price them out.
The 5/8" dry wall come swith a decent fire rating as well....but a little more saftey factor is all ways good.
If ya don't mind me asking what kinda price for that I do not see any prices on there site??
These guys are just importing them into Canada by the truck load from the US
I'm not sure what actual company they buy from.
I'm looking at just about $20,000 can or about $16500 us with an oversized professionally installed 12' wide 11'garage door and an extra mandoor. oh yeah since I posted I upsized a bit so thats for a 24' x 52' x 12' high. shop
blazer_hack
12-07-2005, 01:17 AM
Hey man, where in BC are you at?
anyways, when we built our basement, 2x4 steel studs worked out to significantly cheaper than their finger jointed equivalency.
definetly check some pricing..
Wally74
12-07-2005, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the Roxul link...that stuff looks like it might be the ticket.
Though about using steel studs, I'll have to price them out.
The 5/8" dry wall come swith a decent fire rating as well....but a little more saftey factor is all ways good.
No problem about the link... There was a roxul rep at my local home depot a few weeks ago demonstrating its resistance to fire. Had a lit propane torch right on it the whole time he was there. Just blackened it.
About the 5/8 drywall fire rating.. its rated for how long it takes a fire on one side to burn through.... ie fire spread time from one room to the next. It isn't its resistance to igniting. Afterall, drywall is paper faced so a spark may light it up farily easily.
Good luck with the project.
considering renting out part of your shop :) and if so how much space and $$ ?
considering renting out part of your shop :) and if so how much space and $$ ?
Not really, I have a warehouse right now that I rent out some space 2 buddy's in, as good as they are...I'm looking forward to having it all to myself.
fj40guy
12-09-2005, 06:56 AM
Pook -- any idea on who the original builder is? With "easy slip fit" and no interior pictures, just wondering how they hold up to snow loads and wind.
Always best to deal direct with the OEM, I've heard lots of horror stories about resellers.
Noise: Also think of "building in the building". Inside my 30'x50'x14' shop is a 10' x 30' area partitioned into three rooms (paint room, welding, office). Dedicated rooms to keep the mess down. Paint room is only 6' x 10' but allows a dedicated down draft table and exhaust fan. It also allows alot of storage on top. Really should have done 16' sidewalls for the storage, but spend little time up there... just having the storage room makes a big difference (also allow 22' tubing lengths to be easily stored)!
Tom
Pook -- any idea on who the original builder is? With "easy slip fit" and no interior pictures, just wondering how they hold up to snow loads and wind.
Always best to deal direct with the OEM, I've heard lots of horror stories about resellers.
Noise: Also think of "building in the building". Inside my 30'x50'x14' shop is a 10' x 30' area partitioned into three rooms (paint room, welding, office). Dedicated rooms to keep the mess down. Paint room is only 6' x 10' but allows a dedicated down draft table and exhaust fan. It also allows alot of storage on top. Really should have done 16' sidewalls for the storage, but spend little time up there... just having the storage room makes a big difference (also allow 22' tubing lengths to be easily stored)!
Tom
I'm not sure who the OEM guys are. I have been to the warehouse were they sell from and have seen all the stuff first hand. Look decent and easy enough to build. Its a 2x3 tube construction with swaged ends that slip fit together and then you use self tappers to secure them. The wider ones actually have a truss system too so snow loads shouldn't be an issue. We don't get to much snow up here though, maybe a foot at the most every few years.
They have it most of it in stock so it shouldn't be a problem, I know our hydro company up here has been buying from them and I'll use my visa to pay for it, so I can always go back to them if there is a problem with getting it, etc.
I think the seperate rooms will be the way to go for me.
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