: Shop Lifts??$$$
Rock Ape 12-12-2005, 09:06 PM I Am Looking At Buying A Lift 9-10k Capacity Twin Post Electric,anybody Have Advice On Where,price And Quality??links To Web Sites Would Be Helpful!!
I Searched And Found Limited Info.thanks
crewcab03 12-12-2005, 11:31 PM here are a few links that I have www.targetlifts.com www.americanautomotiveequipment.com www.directlift.com www.ben-pearson.com www.bencostuff.com www.eaglelift.com ebay had a few as well.
fj40charles 12-13-2005, 07:17 AM here are a few links that I have www.targetlifts.com www.americanautomotiveequipment.com www.directlift.com www.ben-pearson.com www.bencostuff.com www.eaglelift.com ebay had a few as well.
I'd go with Rotary. www.rotarylift.com
This is what most shops use.
Big Hoss 12-13-2005, 10:48 AM I didn't realize they were that cheap. Most of the other ones I looked at all looked very similar to these
E-Autolifts (http://www.e-autolifts.com/twopostble.html)
I would second the rotary lift. Just about every shop I've been in has them. I'm not sure on the pricing though, or what your budget is.
chris1044 12-13-2005, 11:13 AM I'll third the rotary....they're great and last forever when taken care (adjusted when needed and fluid kept in motor).
If you look around you can usually find them cheap....particulary when a shop is going under and the building is being sold, I've seen then as low as 800 because the person who owns the building just wants them gone
AprilzWarrior 12-14-2005, 09:51 AM I have 2 in my shop... gotta love that...
One of my favorite Links ! http://www.gesusa.com/ges4less/
Lift on the left is a Bend Pak 27K, and on the right is a 9K Rotary
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I got the lift on the right for less than 1K, and the one on the left as a gift.
HTH
AW
NOODLES 12-14-2005, 09:56 AM I did body work on a 97 mazda truck for my 9k sideby. it is a bend pak I think. about 500 in work for the lift.
Rock Ape 12-16-2005, 06:30 PM I Think I Want A Rotary,but The Bend Pak Looks Strong Too.any Opinions??how About The Mid-rise Portable Lifts Anybody Have Any Experience With Those??
Peter_C 12-16-2005, 07:03 PM http://fototime.com/FEA5C0E197B192F/standard.jpg
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Rotary's are crappy lifts. They flex, bend, and are generally unsafe. You see many shops with them because they are cheap. Notice that the lift on the left has towers that go all the way to the top, yet the Rotary has bolt on top towers for the cables. The Rotary's also use a very short carriage, which again flexes and binds easily.
Benwill and Bend Paks are better along with a bunch of others. Can't remember the name of the brand but the orange lifts are great especially the full electric screw types.
If you want the best Wheeltronics is where it's at!
bronco75 12-16-2005, 09:03 PM http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4852/broncoparts0169ho.jpg
here is my ammco 2 in 1 9000# works great for me it is symetric/asymetric which means both arms can come back which it great for smaller stuff or the front can go forward and backs go to rear which makes crew cab duallys easy
and its built by wheeltronics and sold through your local NAPA even though I bought mine through my freindly local snap on man
AprilzWarrior 12-16-2005, 09:11 PM Since I own a Rotary, Ill chime in Peter.
My Rotary does NOT flex, but I can see that it could happen if misused.
Ive have 1 Ton Ford 4x4 Dually on my 9K lift which is MAXED out with no problems. The Bend Pak lifts.... I had one PERSONALLY FAIL while I was at work one day. The Truck came crashing down, granted it was less than 2 feet from the ground, was doing some suspension work while sitting. Lucky I guess no one got hurt, (a ram failed).
AW
CJredneck 12-17-2005, 12:05 PM http://www.challengerlifts.com/
Peter_C 12-17-2005, 12:31 PM Since I own a Rotary, Ill chime in Peter.
My Rotary does NOT flex, but I can see that it could happen if misused.
Ive have 1 Ton Ford 4x4 Dually on my 9K lift which is MAXED out with no problems. The Bend Pak lifts.... I had one PERSONALLY FAIL while I was at work one day. The Truck came crashing down, granted it was less than 2 feet from the ground, was doing some suspension work while sitting. Lucky I guess no one got hurt, (a ram failed).
AW
Jarrod, I have used many lifts myself, and was not personally attacking you FYI. OK so we rule Bend Pak out too :D I worked in a shop where we had 3 Rotary's of two different style pads. We used to do a lot of fleet service for a plumbing contracter so I worked on many large vans and trucks, including my own K2500 Suburban. On a quality lift you can shake the vehicle, at full height, up and down without much movement. Do it on a Rotary and they move A LOT! It is caused by the short carriage allowing the arms to go up and down, and also the metal and design of the arms themselves. Twelve inches of movement is common from a Rotary. The cables always needed adjustment and the lift changed heights side to side between lowering and raising. The Aamco/Wheeltronics will not let that happen past a half inch :)
Then I have my really bad experience. I put a Ford 250 short bed empty on the Rotary shook the crap out of it, which is a standard routine of mine with every car that gets racked, taking it to full height it slipped a little sideways, falling off one of the posts. It was within inches of being at full height. With help, we spent 45 minutes putting it back on the rack square, and as soon as the down levers were pulled...WHAM! it hit the floor. Fortunately it only hit the rear bumper, but then I spent the next two hours trying to lower the front back to the ground, because the carriage jammed. As I said they use a super short carriage, again look at a good lift like Benwill, or Wheeltronics and you will see a much longer carriage, which helps keep it from jamming but more importantly keeps it from rocking up and down. This was not caused by an installation error as the concrete was measured deeper than spec. Everything was true from top to bottom, no larger gaps on the top or bottom, and the cables were checked right after it happened and were adjusted properly.
The Wheeltronics and Ammco's along with the screw type lifts do not use cables so adjustments are not often and very easy to do. Personally I prefer the screw style hoist. They are quiter with no stops needed, so no slamming sounds as the lift raises. The lifts are fast, yet can be controlled remotely with finesse.
Peter_C 12-17-2005, 12:42 PM [QUOTE=bronco75]http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4852/broncoparts0169ho.jpg
Using simple logic, if you have a rectangular box it can twist and flex right? Now take that box and add multiple angles to it, like the lift above. Does that help control flex? You bet ya!
Challenger lifts are out too. Two piece designs are not as strong as a one piece design. They are cheaper to manufacture and to ship though. The tops are a cheesy almost sheetmetal design that supports the cables.
Edit: the reason I am passionate about lifts is because I have seen many cars fall and have heard so many stories over the years. I like to learn from other peoples mistakes and promote safety. For instance, from other people on this board I learned to wear safety goggles under my face shield when grinding. I have been to the hospital enough from working on cars and even had to have hand surgery once, that took me out of commision for a month. The automotive field is very dangerous, and if we want to stay alive and healty we must be as safe as possible. Unless of course you are like someone I know, who said "nah I don't need safety glasses on", while grinding, "I am a Raiders fan". Ok how could you possibly argue with that logic? I still laugh everytime I think about it :laughing:
AprilzWarrior 12-17-2005, 04:25 PM Jarrod, I have used many lifts myself, and was not personally attacking you FYI.
Oh I never took it that way, I can appreciate your input !!
:D :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2:
Cheers.
86turbodsl 12-18-2005, 06:26 PM Nobody mentioned Mohawk lifts? Pretty darn good imho...
s1037s 12-20-2005, 08:23 AM midrise lifts dont give the access you need to the undercarriage, mostly for brake work
s1037s 12-20-2005, 08:27 AM also, when you think you have decide on a brand of lift, find out who in your area has one and go look at it. ask how they like it, failures? and so on. info info info
brokebronco 12-20-2005, 11:01 AM Had a Forward lift collapse on me last week at the shop. I was within seconds of getting under the car when a lift chain snapped.
Chris
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