Damn...been waiting so long to be at this point I can't believe they are actually in myself. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> Thanks to Tusker for holding the backboard, or else they wouldnt be in! Ok, so here are some pics.

This is the whole shooting match from the side...
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A little closer from the rear...
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I used the stock toy rubber mount in the rear, inside a 4X2 0.25 channel, I used angle to hang it from the frame, everything is flush or higher than the bottom of the frame...
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[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: scwafish ]

Looks good Scwafish!! I'll have to get down there and get a close up look soon!! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">

Whats next?? Now that this is in its time to cut out a bunch of the tunnel to get it to fit. Sort of ironic since I just finished repairing all of the rust holes in the tub...fix the tub <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> ...then whack the tub <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> oh well, I'm getting good at welding zuk sheetmetal. I've done lots of measuring and the tunnel chop will be significant, but not too severe.

Zuk 88...hows your toy coversion coming? Feel free to come by.

Looks sweet, is that a high pinion front diff I see?

Yep!

Nice <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

Nice, I like the welds. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by sawzall:
<STRONG>Looks sweet, is that a high pinion front diff I see?</STRONG>

Scwafish,
You put the hi-diff in the Wrong End!! <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0">

Just curious where that rear shifter ends up being in relation to the driver's seat. Is it right at the parking brake opening? Behind it?

about in the middle of the ebrake handle if i remember right <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by Rocky Road:
<STRONG>Just curious where that rear shifter ends up being in relation to the driver's seat. Is it right at the parking brake opening? Behind it?</STRONG>


Ditto <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> where does the shifter end up? Nice welds, nice work.

looking good! <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0">

The rear shifter will come out about 2-3 inches in front of the end of the e-brake handle. However I think the the tunnel will have to be modified all the way to the rear of the e-brake handle for the increased height. I'll know for sure by sawzall-Sunday.

I can almost hear the sound of the ignition key turning. Now will come the time when scwafish will have restless nights. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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i thought you might like to see some tunnel-alternatives <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0">

ok, its not on my sami but you get the idea
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take care, Alfred

Hey scwafish, there is an idea <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> . It sure beats your aluminum foil tunnel idea LOL.

duct tape is the way to go
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How much further over does the Toy case output shaft sit vs's the zuk? I put D44's in mine and with the GRS1 the out put shaft sits about 2" towards the passenger side vs's the yoke on the rearend.....If I was close to that on the other side, i could move up to toy stuff!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

How much further back does it sit vs's the stock case? ....Do i get an even shorter rear dline?? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

[ 10-30-2001: Message edited by: RudeZuk ]

Shanesan not taking notes <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by bobaki:
<STRONG>Shanesan not taking notes <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I have been taking notes....Just not sure how much difference there is between the Centered out put and the offset out put...??

we talked befor.

you have an offset diff,the front toy shaft sure work.
tout put flange is I believe with in an inch or so of stock.
everybody happy happy <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

5.5"

Rude-It is centered, not really sure how much a waggi 44 is offset, but a Scout 44 is centered and I believe very close to the same width. Scout junk is cheap (trust me on this one)but it would be a pita switching everything over.

The rear shaft is shorter, but only about an inch. However the output is quite a bit higher which would mandate a zoomy rear drive shaft on a short sammy. I had to remove the center of the midframe body mounts to get it to work. That required some major gusseting and a new x-member to be installed.

Installing this setup is a major undertaking, which is one of the reasons I decided to pull the body, although it could be done with the tub on.

Well, when i put in the D44..it is from a Waggy...the Yoke on the axle is shifted to the left (drivers side) compared to the stock zuk axle....So my d-line has a slope down to the axle as well as an angle towards the drivers side....
It is about a 2" difference...
Bobaki im using Toy CV (40*) front and rear on this now from Arizona Driveline...so there is no vibration and it can go the other way...
Im curious if it will just shift 2" the other way...

Geez this is gettin' confusing but its simple....the toy is in the center. Measure how far your off center and there is the answer. I dont know if youll be better off or worse <IMG SRC="smilies/idea.gif" border="0">, but you can figure that out.

Mr fish has his tcase mounted very high(above the bottom of the frame)and will have problems others wont, but he'll end up with nothing but the axel and d/shaft bellow the frame---------we'll watch <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

While I'm going for a flat belly pan, if you don't raise everything as high as the frame bottom the engine is sloping to the rear quite a bit more than stock. Stock engine slope is around 3.5 degrees, with the output at the stock location the motor is tilted around 10 degrees. Mine is sitting at 4 degrees.

Does is matter? I've got no clue, but if your going this far, why not get every inch of clearance that you can without lifting the rig. Cutting the floor seems minor at this point.

http://www.yager.net/zukin/yazuki2/09052001/zuke_ramp1-skid.jpg

I have a setup with the flat belly pan and so far its working out well. I am still tweeking some things and willbe doing the soa in the next month or 2.

My setup, 3" lift springs, 1" body lift. 31" tires.
http://www.yager.net/zukin/yazuki2/yazuki2-09052001.html for other pics...

It has worked out great, yes i do drag on things, but i slid right over, others get hung up on a small edge or lip and are stoped, even just being flush to the frame has made a big difference.

-yag

Originally posted by bobaki:
<STRONG>Mr fish has his tcase mounted very high(above the bottom of the frame)and will have problems others wont, but he'll end up with nothing but the axel and d/shaft bellow the frame---------we'll watch <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I raised my driveline about 2 years ago - Centerline of my rear t-case output is 2" above the frame. Here's a hint: high-pinion diff works perfect.
...keep at it, Phishy - you'll catch up. <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0">

Thanks for the tip smokey, but I have a secret weapon, my rear driveshaft is 35 inches long!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> Unfortunately before I can begin catchin' up, I have to get it running... <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

good info here <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by scwafish:
<STRONG>

A little closer from the rear...
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[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: scwafish ]</STRONG>


So Mr.Fish,
whats the lenght on that trannie to tcase setup you have?
Thanks again, <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Ammelk, I measured from the front of the bellhousing to the end of the rear output is 45.5 inches. I'm putting the tub on Sunday afternoon, I'll post pics of the tunnel carnage, hopefully it won't be too bad.

i can't resist any longer scwafish. i'm gonna come by this weekend and get the tour. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by yazuki:
<STRONG>[

My setup, 3" lift springs, 1" body lift. 31" tires.


-yag</STRONG>

31"s WTF?????????????????????????????????
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Hey, something as puny as a zuk with diffs the size of a grapefruit can go a lot of places on 31 and 32. I wonder how different the pumkin clearance on a zuk with 31s is from a D60 on 35s, I bet its not that different.

Yup, it's all relative... <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

as long as there not your relatives jerry <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Scwafish was hard at work this weekend. A bunch of pictures were taken. All I can say is that his new name should be SCWASALL :D :D

The LWB Sammi looks great.

Originally posted by fatkid
Yup, it's all relative... <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

Lucky them
:D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by SeaBass44


31"s WTF?????????????????????????????????
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

I'm guessing you have a little man complex and running big tires makes you feel good about yourself.....BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:cool:

Originally posted by scwafish
Thanks for the tip smokey, but I have a secret weapon, my rear driveshaft is 35 inches long!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">


That's an impressive shaft, Mr. S-Fish.
(Mine's Only 31"):grinpimp:

Huh-huh "Smokey" I Like that!


More pic's???

I'm dying to post more pics but can't figure out the new setup.

Originally posted by scwafish
I'm dying to post more pics but can't figure out the new setup.


I scrolled down to 'browse & picked a picture, then hit 'preview reply'. When the next screen appeared, I saw the 'browse' field empty again so I picked the picture again. When the post was entered, the pic was there. I'll try it again with this post:

Lets see if this works....this is me first thing carefully trimming sheetmetal out of the tunnel with the tub upside down.

SAW-FISH!!! :grinpimp: :grinpimp: :grinpimp:

Originally posted by scwafish
Ammelk, I measured from the front of the bellhousing to the end of the rear output is 45.5 inches. I'm putting the tub on Sunday afternoon, I'll post pics of the tunnel carnage, hopefully it won't be too bad.
SWEETTT.. Thanks man.. now I can use the
:vader: and get moving on my swap...I just need to strip the body down and remove it to get this started..:D

Then some the NCC boys showed up to help me hoist the tub around, then we started scheming on a technique...thanks a ton to Tusker, Incontrol, and Toymaker helping out.

So then we put the tub on the frame, and when it became obvious it wasnt go down far in the front we marked out some cuts and I trimmed it some more with it propped up....

But that wasnt enough so we took it back off, and it started to get ugly, Tuskers face was priceless...Uh you sure you wanna do that man???

But then it dropped into place and, it was looking better than expected. I thought it was going to stick up way higher than it did...

Another view...

Originally posted by scwafish
Another view...
wholy. :cow: that looks sweeet scawfish,sawfish,mr.fish...:D
I'm going dual tc's for sure now..I can't be left out of this madness..:D

Later me and Incontrol mounted a seat, and then I put in the shifters to see where it all ended up, and its damn near perfect. I'll need to bend the tranny shifter back a bit but otherwise thats it. My tunnel will take a little figuring out, but its no big deal, I think it might be easier if I suspend my seats off the cage.

YEAH BABY!!!

Lookin' GOOD, man.....

Its looking good, when are u gonna finish?

look awsome...:D

floor strenght just a faint memory I'll bet.---:D

The floor is obviously weaker, but its not exactly flapping in the breeze. I can still sit in there and it doesnt droop or anything. Doesn't matter anyway since I think Ill be hanging the seats from the cage to make the tunnel simpler and removable.

It could be made as strong as it was with nothing more than sheetmetal, it is just a more complicated shape to fabricate since it would need to incorperate the existing drivers seat mount. The old bobaki duct tape special wouldnt get it.

Just add cardboard:D

keep cardboard dry:D

why look, it's a baby hummer:flipoff2:
just kiddin. looking good man!:beer:

lookin good Sawfish!!!