what are the differences between a tj and a yj, besides the nicer dash on the tj, round headlights and slightly different hood shape?

alot of YJ's had springs instead of coils or i think all of them did. and TJ's have coils mostly, idk im not really a jeep person.

-Thomas

YJ's are all leaf spring at 4 corners, TJ are coil at 4 corners.
I like the YJ dash better, TJ is too car-like :p
Sometimes the owner's ego is different as well.............:flipoff2:

Sometimes the owner's ego is different as well.............:flipoff2:
Sometimes... the majority of stuck up jeep owners I have seen drive TJ's.

I'd reply to you guys but I'm a stuck up TJ owner...

Kidding.

I like the coils in the TJ better than the leafs in the YJ. I like the dash in the YJ better. The YJ rear seat is also better, I think because of the higher fender well. Also, I like the TJ round headlights better than the YJ square ones. Both are good rigs.

all yj's had leafs and all tjs had coils now in my opinoin a tj is what you get your wife because it rides good and looks gurly.the yj is what you buy yors son because of course he wants to lift it (lifts are dirt cheap for yj's and any idiot that knows his left from right can install them) which means he will root it and since your probably paying for it he will root it hard and often which would cause the airbags to deploy on a tj and absolutly ruin the value of your jeep the mighty cj the mans rig with a 401 and a three speed finished off by the dana 300 t case and daul 44's yes sir this is the rig that's been through the deepest wholes and to the top of the highest hills with you and now it has been lovinly restored and is taking up valuble garage space......... so get out there and root that bitch

but if your looking for a jeep you need to ask yourself what do i want ride quality, air bags,seatbelts .......... hell na get a cj or yj if you want ac and a safer ride

TJs suck because they come with Peugot transmissions, small front ujoints, front axle disconnect, no suspension flex, and no rear dana44 option :flipoff2:

TJs suck because they come with Peugot transmissions, small front ujoints, front axle disconnect, no suspension flex, and no rear dana44 option :flipoff2:

I don't have ANY of those problems..........:flipoff2: LOL
Hell I don't even have square headlights.
Aaron

i combined the best of both worlds!!!

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TJs suck because they come with Peugot transmissions, small front ujoints, front axle disconnect, no suspension flex, and no rear dana44 option :flipoff2:

You don't know what you're talking about. I think you mean early YJs.

My YJ has a heater that sucks a$$, and it rides like a skateboard. But i'd still rather have it than a coil sprung TJ that would 'unload' and flop yer a$$ over :flipoff2:

TJs suck because they come with Peugot transmissions, small front ujoints, front axle disconnect, no suspension flex, and no rear dana44 option

Wow, there's some serious mis information running around in here, I hope it's just a typo.

Best Jeep for a project, 95 YJ.
EFI 4.0L HO, largest front u-joints (of the YJ's), simple leaf suspension. Modifications are endless.

Best Jeep for comfort, any TJ. If you're not going to wheel it, you can't beat the ride of a TJ.

the mighty cj the mans rig with a 401 and a three speed finished off by the dana 300 t case and daul 44's yes sir this is the rig that's been through the deepest wholes and to the top of the highest hills with you and now it has been lovinly restored and is taking up valuble garage space......... so get out there and root that bitch

And the weakest frame of them all.:grinpimp: :grinpimp: :grinpimp:

YJ - Used to own one, had it for 6 yrs.
Leaf Springs
Less Plastic
Rear wheel wells are square have more room for storage
*coolers, tool boxes fit perfect
*smaller rear seat
soft top is thinner and noiser and if you dont' put it on right it'll come off while you driving down the road.
More expensive to lift- it took a combo of 5" of lift for 33"
no air bags
Harder to find 6 cylinders
*so you'll probably have to change the gears when you lift


TJ- Owned for 3 wks
Coil Springs
* better ride
* cheap to lift
* apparently it only takes 2" budget boost for 32"s (was told 33"s could fit may have to do a body lift)
More plastic
* has more little compartments to stuff things in
* more panels to take off to get to fix things
You have an option of getting a Dana 44 rear end - more in the Sahara models
If you get the Sport & Sahara models you could get cruise, tilt steering.
Soft top is heavier and it seems to be quieter inside
*easier to take on and off (from what I've read)
Option of Cloth seats and leather seats
Seems to be more leg room
Option of turning off passenger air bag
Sound bar
It's more common to get a 6cylinder
more common to have air

Regardless of which one you get you still get a Jeep.

My husband and I just came back from a road trip, it wasn't too bad. We had the option to talk throughout the trip. :shaking:

you will need gears in a yj with 33's or bigger but they are cheap and easy to lift i put a 3inch fabtech lift on mine for $800 (the most expensive) and the hardest part about that was cutting the old leaf spring bolts off.

p.s. i dont suggest getting the fabtech military wrap kit because it rides like shit, i would suggest the skyjacker sofride it is about $200 dollars cheaper, oh yea and all the kits come with idiot proof directions w/ part#'s and pictures

TJs suck because they come with Peugot transmissions, small front ujoints, front axle disconnect, no suspension flex, and no rear dana44 option :flipoff2:

WRONG WRONG WRONG AND WRONG> My TJ comes with an NV3550. My old yj had the peugot tranny. and the rear dana 44 option is also wrong. you could order it from DC with it. get your facts straight newbie

Jesus christ can you guy's not take a joke, maybe you haven't heard of sarcasm look it up some time, because that's what pietro's post was.
:shaking:

how can someone with 67 posts call someone else a newbie.

The D44 was an option for YJs... Only in Canada though.

TJs and YJs look alike - but almost nothing swaps between the two. A much shorter list would be - what do they have in common?

The main differences as stated above:
springs - coils vs leafs
interior is very different
YJs have slightly more room than a TJ

Things they have in common
motors - 2.5 and 4.0
tranny - ax5 and ax15
transfer case
axles (not including the coil bucket vs leaf perches)

other than the above - they are completely different.

oh yea i forgot about the nv3550 trnny in some tj's, that would be the best thing to put in place of that ax15

xtusseryx: thanks for paying attention and not :zzz: behind the wheel:D

the ax15 isnt a peugot tranny, the tj has dana 44 axles avalible (rubicon) factory options, the tj is a great rig and the yj is a great rig. it all boils down to how much money you want to spend. i personally i like the xj but if i was going to go topless id probably go with a tj. they have alot of benifits the only draw back to a tj is the minivan like interior.

Hmm, Booger, what are you doing in this forum?

Anyway, as mentioned, the big diff is the Leaf springs on the YJ and Coils (front/rear) on the TJ.

YJs: 2.5 EFI 4 cyls, 4.0 EFI or 4.2 carb's 6 cyls.
TJs: 2.4 or 2.5 EFI 4 cyls, 4.0 EFI 6 cyls.

YJs originally had a crap peugeot trans and a oddball t-case, later used AX 5 and AX15s. 3 speed autos available as well.
TJs started with AX5's and AX15's, later went to the NV3550, then some others. 3, then later 4 cyl autos possible.

YJs use a Dana 30/Dana 35 combo, the dana 30 front is a disconnect axle with reverse cut gears.

TJs use a Dana 30/Dana 35 or Dana 44 setup. The dana 30 front is non disconnect, low pinion, but uses a crush sleeve so the gears are different than CJ dana 30s.

Frames, obviously are different. More weight overall in the TJ due to crash requirements.

TJ soft tops are miles better than YJ ones.

A lot of the Jeep trannys are somewhat common parts to the Toyota stuff you may be familiar with. The AW4 4 speed in XJs is the same trans as the A340. The AX5 and AX15 are related to all the Toyota 5 speeds made by Aisin. (The AW4/AX5 and AX15 are all Aisin-Warner), so that same 3.93/2.33/1.45/1.00/0.85 gearing is there(slightly lower in the AX15)..

correct me if im wrong but

cj- leaf springs in all corners
yj- leaf rear, coils front
tj- coils in all corners.

correct me if im wrong but

cj- leaf springs in all corners
yj- leaf rear, coils front
tj- coils in all corners.

ur jokin right

i take that as im wrong...... im a toyota guy

correct me if im wrong but

cj- leaf springs in all corners
yj- leaf rear, coils front
tj- coils in all corners.

You got your YJ confused with an XJ.

WRONG WRONG WRONG AND WRONG> My TJ comes with an NV3550. My old yj had the peugot tranny. and the rear dana 44 option is also wrong. you could order it from DC with it. get your facts straight newbie
What are you talking about?.You're a fuckin' newbie yourself!.Aparently you don't know about the tremendous amount of sarcasm that goes on here.IOW,he was being sarcastic,MR. Jeep Geek :flipoff2:

all yj's had leafs and all tjs had coils now in my opinoin a tj is what you get your wife because it rides good and looks gurly.the yj is what you buy yors son because of course he wants to lift it (lifts are dirt cheap for yj's and any idiot that knows his left from right can install them) which means he will root it and since your probably paying for it he will root it hard and often which would cause the airbags to deploy on a tj and absolutly ruin the value of your jeep the mighty cj the mans rig with a 401 and a three speed finished off by the dana 300 t case and daul 44's yes sir this is the rig that's been through the deepest wholes and to the top of the highest hills with you and now it has been lovinly restored and is taking up valuble garage space......... so get out there and root that bitch
What are you,a fuckin retard?.A TJ is for your wife because it looks girly?.A YJ is for your son cause he wants to lift it?.The CJ with the 401 and dual Dana 44s?.Root?.What the fuck is Root?.Are you for real?.You probably have a "It's a Jeep thing,you wouldn't understand" sticker on your stock Jeep rockin' 31 inch all terrains,huh?.:flipoff2:

I am amazed that any of you guys took Boogerz question seriously or bothered to answer him.

the mighty cj the mans rig with a 401 and a three speed finished off by the dana 300 t case and daul 44's

funny.. 401s never came factory in CJs, 44 fronts never came factory in CJs, and a 401 with a d300 has never been a factory combo in any jeep. nuttin like comparing stock to non-stock. :shaking:

IMO, Pietro wins the thread.

What are you,a fuckin retard?.A TJ is for your wife because it looks girly?.A YJ is for your son cause he wants to lift it?.The CJ with the 401 and dual Dana 44s?.Root?.What the fuck is Root?.Are you for real?.You probably have a "It's a Jeep thing,you wouldn't understand" sticker on your stock Jeep rockin' 31 inch all terrains,huh?.:flipoff2:
rootin is goin through the mud dumbass, and the tj is a girls rig if i ever seen one, the yj doesn't have air bags so there for they can't deploy when your rootin not pussy footin like you pussy's and no i dont have "its a jeep thing" sticker and no i dont run 31's i have a 6 inch lift on my yj with 35's with shmitybuilt bumpers and sliders and

p.s. air bags do deploy when your rootin if they dont then your not rootin hard enough.

I win this thread :bounce2: :bounce2: :bounce2:

What do I get? A TJ with a 401, a gear drive 4:1 tcase, and REAL 44's front and rear:flipoff2:

Ok I will put in my 2 cents. A YJ ha leafs in all four corners. Another thing is that Flex wise a TJ will always flex better. YJ that flex to the extreme have a lot of work to them. I am a square headlighter, and I have seen some pretty sweet YJs but none could flex that great with just a lift kit. I know a lot of people that are into the coil convertion hype for yjs aswell. And someone on here said YJ lifts are dirt cheap, DEAD WRONG, there are different lift prices for all jeeps. Rough Country is about what $450, whil my BDS lift is $850. Hell there are some even more expensive YJ lifts than that.
Ferrell

Man,you guys are killin me.This is some of the funniest s@#t if have seen in a while..........:D :D :D , But seriously,we all know that the tj is the most capable jeep ever built in stock form.And really who gives a sh$t about the airbags,jeep was smart enough to have them fused,pull the glove box and the damn fuse panel even has the airbag fuses highlighted so even a toyota guy can figure out how not to kill himself when wheelin.:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

i dont run 31's i have a 6 inch lift on my yj with 35's with shmitybuilt bumpers
Now that sounds like a hard core set-up right there.I'd love to see this awesome machine.:shaking:

rootin is goin through the mud dumbass,

p.s. air bags do deploy when your rootin if they dont then your not rootin hard enough.
So I guess I must've been "ROOTIN" in my buddy's yard this morning.(there was some mud,and I walked thru it).Then I went out to my truck and checked,and my airbags didn't deploy.:shaking: Guess I wasn't "ROOTIN" hard enough.I think I better get some smitty built bumpers.:flipoff2:

what are the differences between a tj and a yj, besides the nicer dash on the tj, round headlights and slightly different hood shape?Hey, who let you out of the Toyota section?:confused: Just stirring up trouble here?.........Hans

rootin is goin through the mud dumbass, and the tj is a girls rig if i ever seen one, the yj doesn't have air bags so there for they can't deploy when your rootin not pussy footin like you pussy's and no i dont have "its a jeep thing" sticker and no i dont run 31's i have a 6 inch lift on my yj with 35's with shmitybuilt bumpers and sliders and

p.s. air bags do deploy when your rootin if they dont then your not rootin hard enough.


You're such a badass

btw "rootin" = :rainbow:

rootin is goin through the mud dumbass, i have a 6 inch lift on my yj with 35's
.
You should drop a rotary engine on that HardCore Rig.That way you can call it a Roto-Rooter.

Don't worry,I'll be "Rootin" for ya.

You should drop a rotary engine on that HardCore Rig.That way you can call it a Roto-Rooter.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Ok I will put in my 2 cents. A YJ ha leafs in all four corners. Another thing is that Flex wise a TJ will always flex better. YJ that flex to the extreme have a lot of work to them. I am a square headlighter, and I have seen some pretty sweet YJs but none could flex that great with just a lift kit. I know a lot of people that are into the coil convertion hype for yjs aswell.

YJs don't flex well? Then you haven't been around enough. I'd take my YJ any day over the TJ weenies i wheel with. I'm not baggin on TJs, cause at least they have heaters that don't suck and they ride 10x times better. But my junker flexes just as great. I Run RE spring under, and custom shock mounts. Try greasing all yer bushings really well, don't crank the bolts too tight, locktite the nuts so it doesn't come loose, throw away the track bars front and rear, and get yerself a 100$ shock mount for the rear and weld it in. All that is still much cheaper than a long arm kit for TJs.

coils almost always flex better than leaf springs, sport and sarha both came with rear d44 option, yj vs. tj? lol who cares, everyones shit is better than everyone else's no matter what

rootin is goin through the mud dumbass, and the tj is a girls rig if i ever seen one, the yj doesn't have air bags so there for they can't deploy when your rootin not pussy footin like you pussy's and no i dont have "its a jeep thing" sticker and no i dont run 31's i have a 6 inch lift on my yj with 35's with shmitybuilt bumpers and sliders and

p.s. air bags do deploy when your rootin if they dont then your not rootin hard enough.


4MUDDER- I wouldn't go bragging about sporting anything smittybuilt, who runs a 401 anymore over other V8s, and what makes you think TJs are for girls? A well set up coil rig will day and night out perform a well set up leaf sprung rig (I have leafs for the record, but its a known fact). Ive only seen a few people in this entire post that have a clue as to what they are talking about, the rest are just throwing shit info out there to hear themselves talk.

If it were up to me I would delete this whole forum together as it has been polluted with worthless posts, info, and replys that this post's contents consist of.





But then again.........

There is no cheaper entertainment then watching dumbass newbies who don't have an idea in the first place bash and flame the shit out of each other.

the tj jus looks like a pussy mobile but thats jus my opinion.

4mudder, dude you are a fucking idiot....plain and fucking simple. i may be a newbie on post count but not in the real world, so dont even try that shut the fuck up newb shit. i can not believe how fucking dumb you are. i have a good buddy rolling on 42" IROKs with a 60 front and 14 rear, all custom shit, and guess what? i would even trade my built cj for his tj. if you think a built tj is for pussy, then maybe you should pull the dildo outa you ass, and go back to your "hardcore" smittybuilt equipped pos on 35"all terrains, and get the fuck off this forum.

4mudder, dude you are a fucking idiot....plain and fucking simple. i may be a newbie on post count but not in the real world, so dont even try that shut the fuck up newb shit. i can not believe how fucking dumb you are. i have a good buddy rolling on 42" IROKs with a 60 front and 14 rear, all custom shit, and guess what? i would even trade my built cj for his tj. if you think a built tj is for pussy, then maybe you should pull the dildo outa you ass, and go back to your "hardcore" smittybuilt equipped pos on 35"all terrains, and get the fuck off this forum.


Wow....don't worry about showing any mercy. Sheesh LOL. :flipoff2:

mercy is for pussies, if you are thin skinned get off these forums and grow a pair. :flipoff2:

yeah, fuck you and merry christmas:flipoff2:

YJs are only good if you want a solid frame and engine to build off of. Other than that, they are useless. TJ is much better "out of the box" fourwheeler. But if you are doing a custom link suspension and axle swap, they are equal because all of the oem shit is gone at that point. It might as well be a
square vs. round headlight battle.

And we all know which is better...:D

:beer: Have one on me guys :D ,,,,. But I think Pietro is the winner of this post. YJ+TJ=JEEP :shaking: .

:eek: :eek:
Ok for now many are still trying to get the forum changed to hardcore/the rest. Whatever happens this new forum is not going to allow the flaming and whining.

So be that as it may no flaming, no whining, answer stuff, or don't post.

As things shake up there will be new rules, but this is the way it is right now. We can add more later as nec.

Would appear most poster's never read! :shaking::shaking:



WoRM

I am amazed that any of you guys took Boogerz question seriously or bothered to answer him.


LOL X2 ;)

Ok I will put in my 2 cents. A YJ ha leafs in all four corners. Another thing is that Flex wise a TJ will always flex better. YJ that flex to the extreme have a lot of work to them. I am a square headlighter, and I have seen some pretty sweet YJs but none could flex that great with just a lift kit. I know a lot of people that are into the coil convertion hype for yjs aswell. And someone on here said YJ lifts are dirt cheap, DEAD WRONG, there are different lift prices for all jeeps. Rough Country is about what $450, whil my BDS lift is $850. Hell there are some even more expensive YJ lifts than that.
Ferrell


I disagree with what you are saying... I have built my suspension for 1/8 of what I paid on a RE lift, even though for what it was and bolt on was a great and still cheap lift compared to a TJ lift. My Jeep flexes pretty well with leaf springs.

The dilema coil vs lef will always be around, for simplicity and cost, leafs are hard to beat period... a coil setup that does what I can do on leafs will cost at a minimum ten times what I have on my leaf setup to perfom at the same level or better. I have had several YJ's,a nd a handful of TJ's (just got another TJ project), and like Pietro said, they are both a JEEP when you get down to it. For simplicity and cost of build, a YJ is simply hard to beat...

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