What I started with was a 1998 XJ sport (heat, air, electric everything) 4.0L, auto, 4 to 1 kit in t-case, slip yoke coversion in rear. It had 33's and teraflex coils with national rear. I sold all the old stuff to fund this build.

I re-enforced the unibody with 3x4x.25 angle. I made a new cross member that included the mounts for the front links. I have yet to install the PSC hydro assist kit I have for it, the Crok steering box/frame kit and the T and J Performance 8 point cage is waiting in the garage too. Needs rear shocks and the traction bar is waiting to go in as well. I have to thank Jeremy at Shaffer's Offroad for the gear and locker install. Hope it didn't get you in too much trouble. Oh and it still fits in the garage. MY GARAGE HAS A 6' 11' DOOR AND IT FITS IN AND OUT JUST FINE. ITS NOT AS TALL AS EVERYONE THINKS IT IS.
Here are the specs

Front:
Ford HPd44
5.38's
Detroit
8 lug coversion
stock shafts for now (will use as spares later)
spicer 756 joints

Rear:
Ford SRW D61
5.38's
welded

Tires:
38x14.5x15 TSL SX's on 15x10 pro-comp steel wheels

Suspension:
front- R.E. 7.5" coils
2" teraflex spacers
custom coil buckets and platforms
Extended radius arms with 1.75" .250 wall DOM 42" long
R.E. joints at radius arm ends
7 degree radius arm bushings
all new steering and track bar
Rear- 5.5" National springs
4" block for now:(
1.75" lift shackles

Drove her for the first time today. Glo took some pics and will post them up for me. Discuss.:flipoff2: and flame away. Total took about 2 months of days off to fab it all up. Thanks to GloNDark for the "support"

IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO DISABLE THE FACTORY ALARM PLEASE SPEAK UP.

pics, this thing is bad ass. Once the cage goes in and we make some bumpers for it, we are gonna be pimping in style. :D

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nice nice

i dont know if its wide enough im sure you wont have any offcamber problems lol

im buildn a xj/buggy right now going for narrowed idea are young gonna build bumpers? or buy some

last of the pics

nice nice

i dont know if its wide enough im sure you wont have any offcamber problems lol

im buildn a xj/buggy right now going for narrowed idea are young gonna build bumpers? or buy some


Build em, everything out there is too bulky and takes too much approach/departure angle away.

Hey Glo....thanks for puttin' up the pics. Hope you feel better.

Very nice!! Makes me almost keep my cherokee and do the same thing to it, but I have a cj I am trying to build up instead. Very sweet though--------someday I will do this to a cherokee-----------Kyle

Looks good Geoff. Makes me wish I didnt sell the ZJ. Give me a few years and I'll pick up another project (if your sister lets me). You'll love the AC durring those hot summer days on the Rubicon.

it looks like there would be a lot of bump steer do to how short the trac bar is compared to the steering link, have you cycled the suspension yet and checked it out ? Other than that, it looks super killer, any thoughts about hydro assist for the steering to help turn the new shoes ?

That thing is huge! You could easily loose the spacers and blocks, and more.

I was concerned about the bump steer with the shorter track bar but I drove it today and there was very little if none. The pic is a little deceiving. The track bar is only about 5" shorter than the drag link.

I wrote above that I have a PSC kit ready to go but I want to beef up the frame around the steering box first. When I pull the box to tap it I will beef up the frame at the same time. But I have it sitting in the garage ready to go in.

As for the height, I had to make it taller to keep from destroying the fenders when it flexes. As it is I am concerned that I will have clearance issues.I will try to see what happens in the future and make adjustments as necessary. The front coils are brand new so they will settle, I tried to keep that in consideration when I built it alittle tall. But hell if it stays tall and everything clears ok, then I'll have room to run 40's:flipoff2:

Needs bumpers and sliders in a bad way, but looks good. Much better family rig than the ice cream truck

You already fabbed it up with full width axles, go ahead and cut the fenders. It will work a lot better if you lower it about 4" and limit the up travel.

...and a rear traction bar is definitly in your future.

...and work even better if you flip the rear springs.

...and those 38.5 SXs are testing those stock 44 shafts...you're thinking about 40s?!

You already fabbed it up with full width axles, go ahead and cut the fenders. It will work a lot better if you lower it about 4" and limit the up travel.

...and a rear traction bar is definitly in your future.

...and work even better if you flip the rear springs.

...and those 38.5 SXs are testing those stock 44 shafts...you're thinking about 40s?!


Did ya' even read my first post?

As for the spring flip I thought about it but I am using this for a family crawler and I don't want to have to put a fuel cel in the back to make room for the added wheelbase. I may change my mind later though. The WB is at 105" now, I pushed the front forward a few inches. I have the traction bar built just have to finish the cross member for it. And as for the shafts, I know. Shaffer get a good deal on Superior and CTM combos(2 of his sponsors) and he's in our local club so we get a good deal on things;)

Needs bumpers and sliders in a bad way, but looks good. Much better family rig than the ice cream truck

I finished the passenger side slider today and you can see it in one of the pics and the driver side will be done tomorrow. Bumper fab will have to wait for another day......I'm tapped for cash and steel is getting expensive.


I was thinking maybe orange and purple for the colors...what do you think Jeremy?:flipoff2:

Can you do a write up for how you installed those driving lights??? Please include the formula/calculations you used to aim those suckers...:flipoff2:


But seriously, good lookin rig. If it were me, I'd trim the fenders some more and lose the spacers and 2" of block at the least. Again nice ride.

Can you do a write up for how you installed those driving lights??? Please include the formula/calculations you used to aim those suckers...:flipoff2:


But seriously, good lookin rig. If it were me, I'd trim the fenders some more and lose the spacers and 2" of block at the least. Again nice ride.

First you drive up to a garage door. Turn them on and make sure they are pointed in totally different directions:flipoff2:

As for the lift. I have 2" blocks I can use but decided to run the 4" ones because this is still a family rig and I have a daughter that will ride in the back. I have cut the rear fenders out as far as I can without cutting into the cab. We'll see how she goes.


Besides a taller ride keeps the fat chicks out of it. Its really not that tall. I can drive it in and out of my garage without any issues. Its just tall for an XJ.

I've a couple of buddys running the same spring and spacer set up on XJ's and they're not too tall at all. With the wider tires and axles that jeep should be pretty stable on the trail. I had a ZJ with 8" skyjacker coils and 2" spacers and it handled great on the road and never felt tippy on the trail. This XJ should work great for a grocery getter/ rock crawler. Again, nice job Geoff.

I've a couple of buddys running the same spring and spacer set up on XJ's and they're not too tall at all. With the wider tires and axles that jeep should be pretty stable on the trail. I had a ZJ with 8" skyjacker coils and 2" spacers and it handled great on the road and never felt tippy on the trail. This XJ should work great for a grocery getter/ rock crawler. Again, nice job Geoff.

Thanks CT......it doesn't sit much taller than my F250 superduty with a 2.5" leveling kit on it. Like you said, its wide and feels stable as hell on the road. I just need to bleed the brakes and it will feel even better on the road.

I need all the height I can get to get over the speed bumps at the mall:laughing:

Sold the SWB for that :eek:

I take it you need more room for a family? Looking gooood so far :smokin:


-Todd

Sold the SWB for that :eek:

I take it you need more room for a family? Looking gooood so far :smokin:


-Todd

Not exactly, I actually traded the CJ straight across for what I mentioned above. The axles were built and it had a d44 in the rear with 2 sets of tires and beadlocks, ARB front bumper and Durango rear. I was able to sell everything off it to fund this.

And yes now that I'm a dad I needed the room. I want to be able to take my wife and daughter on the 'Con this year.

We need to go hit the 'Con again. I'll try and keep up with you.

Looks great Geoff. About time you got something to come out and play with again!!!

Not exactly, I actually traded the CJ straight across for what I mentioned above. The axles were built and it had a d44 in the rear with 2 sets of tires and beadlocks, ARB front bumper and Durango rear. I was able to sell everything off it to fund this.

And yes now that I'm a dad I needed the room. I want to be able to take my wife and daughter on the 'Con this year.

We need to go hit the 'Con again. I'll try and keep up with you.

Sounds like a plan! I`m bustin ass myself right now to do the front suspension of the buggy and some other stuff. Need to go through lil-sluice in the new rigs before it's bombed :mad3:

Are you sure you couldn't make it just a little wider?:flipoff2: Looks like it might roll over on ya! LOL

Sounds like a plan! I`m bustin ass myself right now to do the front suspension of the buggy and some other stuff. Need to go through lil-sluice in the new rigs before it's bombed :mad3:

Ya' we made it look too easy last time:D

Are you sure you couldn't make it just a little wider?:flipoff2: Looks like it might roll over on ya! LOL

Hey, pot this is kettle.....you're black:D Running 404's with 42's and sayin' I'm wide:flipoff2:

IMO, you should do something different with the tie rod end on the passenger side. Well, I guess you just need to make the tie rod longer...not sure why you didn't. :confused:

I broke mine with only an inch of exposed thread....I can't imagine having much more than that:
http://www.projectxj.com/images/trail.runs/06.24.04-springcreek/images/IMG_4504.jpg

The build looks pretty good though. I'll be anxious to see it out on the trail. Nice job. :smokin:

IMO, you should do something different with the tie rod end on the passenger side. Well, I guess you just need to make the tie rod longer...not sure why you didn't. :confused:

I broke mine with only an inch of exposed thread....I can't imagine having much more than that:
http://www.projectxj.com/images/trail.runs/06.24.04-springcreek/images/IMG_4504.jpg

The build looks pretty good though. I'll be anxious to see it out on the trail. Nice job. :smokin:

Yeah, I was a dumbass and took a measurment wrong. The one shown will now become a spare and I have a longer one that will replace it. This was just to get it rolling for now. But good catch on that.

I can't wait to get her wheelin'. I'm anxious to see how she does. I'll get some flex shots of it and post them up later.

you should post a pic of the crossmember you built

Very nice thanks for sharing the pics. :thumb:

looks nasty. ditch the blocks asap

I wish you the best of luck with a stock 60 rear and stock dana 44 shafts/ujoints on those 38" swampers :flipoff2: For the cost of alloy's and CTM's you could have done a HP60.


My rear 60 lasted 5 trips with 30 spline 60 shafts. I snapped 3 shafts and twisted teh splines on 2 before going to 35 spline alloys.


Looks cool otherwise, i like the look of full width xj's on big meats, even if their unibody's can't hold up to them for very long. OH yeah those blocks in the rear are sick...good call :laughing:

NIce Job....Looks very clean .. I say you did a Great Job....

as for height mine is under 7 feet easily and when we are on trail rides I am usually smaller in roof height then the TJ's with 35's :)

xjs unibodys hold up fine when you plate the entire thing in wall steel then rollcage it and put triangulation everywhere lol.

I wish you the best of luck with a stock 60 rear and stock dana 44 shafts/ujoints on those 38" swampers :flipoff2: For the cost of alloy's and CTM's you could have done a HP60.


My rear 60 lasted 5 trips with 30 spline 60 shafts. I snapped 3 shafts and twisted teh splines on 2 before going to 35 spline alloys.


Looks cool otherwise, i like the look of full width xj's on big meats, even if their unibody's can't hold up to them for very long. OH yeah those blocks in the rear are sick...good call :laughing:

Thanks but I won't need it. I ran a stock D60 rear welded on 42's with a built sbc and sm465 and never broke a rear shaft. I broke a driveline but never a axle:shaking: If you know how to drive you don't have to worry about breakin' your shit. Its all about finesse not throttle.
The CTM's and alloys I get for cost so again.....:shaking:
The unibody was plated and redone so that is not a problem. And I'm glad you like the blocks, I did them just for you:flipoff2:

xjs unibodys hold up fine when you plate the entire thing in wall steel then rollcage it and put triangulation everywhere lol.

Which I did hence why the unibody won't be an issue

NIce Job....Looks very clean .. I say you did a Great Job....

as for height mine is under 7 feet easily and when we are on trail rides I am usually smaller in roof height then the TJ's with 35's :)

Thank you and I agree mine isn't that tall either.

looks awesome man, but get thoes blocks out!

=as for height mine is under 7 feet easily and when we are on trail rides I am usually smaller in roof height then the TJ's with 35's :)

I know how you feel - mines only 6'8" tall on an 81" outside tire width.:smokin: Some may think that's too narrow, but I've got lots of weight down low.

When you get ready to do the steering box reinforcement, keep samco fabrication in mind, he makes a nice steering box brace, and he is local
here is the link
http://www.reno4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1066
http://www.samcofabrication.com/images/stories/zoom/QSAAEM/viewsize/IMG_4039.JPG

Bring lots of spare front shafts if you go out before you put the alloys in. i broke 3 the last time i went out on the same tires with stock shafts. It looks sweet, nice job.

I wish you the best of luck with a stock 60 rear and stock dana 44 shafts/ujoints on those 38" swampers :flipoff2: For the cost of alloy's and CTM's you could have done a HP60.


My rear 60 lasted 5 trips with 30 spline 60 shafts. I snapped 3 shafts and twisted teh splines on 2 before going to 35 spline alloys.


Looks cool otherwise, i like the look of full width xj's on big meats, even if their unibody's can't hold up to them for very long. OH yeah those blocks in the rear are sick...good call :laughing:

My stock 60's have held up just fine with the same tires, locked front and rear, 375 horse small block. Maybe you just drive like a retard? Or you one of those "60's suck unless you got CTM's and alloy" sheeple. :flipoff2: Now you could argue all day about this, fact is I've been thru Fordyce all winch hills, Rubicon, all over moonrocks, up and down prison hill and then some...never had a problem. So go ahead argue with yourself.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=207847&d=1127920463

you should post a pic of the crossmember you built
DO IT DO IT, flexed it out yet? Wanna know how those rad arms work out for you, fixing to do the same exact setup:smokin:

Nice truck, looks way too tall for those tires.

Here is a friend's XJ, 60/44 with ctm... he has arround 8" of lift and some trim...

Nice truck, looks way too tall for those tires.



Well I guess that means it needs 40's then:flipoff2:

DO IT DO IT, flexed it out yet? Wanna know how those rad arms work out for you, fixing to do the same exact setup:smokin:

The x-member was simple 2x6 rectangular box tubing using the stock mounting holes with some extra mount. The arms attach below it. Glo and I will get some flex shots tomorrow.

Hey Geoff, that thing is wicked cool.. those scalops are cool as hell.. wasn't that long when i saw that thing sitting low and only had half of the hood painted.. sweet build..
Cory

Run the blocks just to piss everyone off. You know how I drive my yota :D and I have never broken one. Oh and bend up some new rear brake lines you cheapskate.:D

I seriously love this thing. Even against the naysayers I think you will be fine at that height. I mean come on you are only 10 inches wider now (some people). I also think you can make the axles last too--------Kyle

Run the blocks just to piss everyone off. You know how I drive my yota :D and I have never broken one. Oh and bend up some new rear brake lines you cheapskate.:D

Hey Mike I ran out of $$$$:flipoff2:

I seriously love this thing. Even against the naysayers I think you will be fine at that height. I mean come on you are only 10 inches wider now (some people). I also think you can make the axles last too--------Kyle

Thanks, I'm happy with how it came out. The width will definately help with stability. And driving is all about finesse not throttle. The rear I'm not worried in the least about the front with the detroit is asking for trouble but we'll see if I can caress her for a few until I can get the $$ together for the alloys and CTM's

hahah just to piss people off...
I have been running 2" blocks for over 2 years with no problem and yes 38 TSL's

another pic

hahah just to piss people off...
I have been running 2" blocks for over 2 years with no problem and yes 38 TSL's

I ran blocks in an XJ I built 2 rigs ago and never had any problems. In fact I liked it because I could use a spring with less of an arch, it rode better and flexed jus as well. Just have to check the u-bolt every now and then to make sure they are still tight.

:flipoff2: to everyone that doesn't like them, they're staying now.

Hack ass steering..:flipoff2:
One heim joint on the drag link and not a high miss alignment rod end at the high steer arm.

How wide is it? 90+?
Thats all about what you have to wheel in your area, but I have alittle trouble at 84in fitting into our tight trails.

The first pic is cool :D

Hack ass steering..:flipoff2:
One heim joint on the drag link and not a high miss alignment rod end at the high steer arm.

How wide is it? 90+?
Thats all about what you have to wheel in your area, but I have alittle trouble at 84in fitting into our tight trails.

The first pic is cool :D

Its only 84" wide and sits 6' 10" tall I measured the yesterday. As for the steering fawk it. The pitman arm was already drilled for the heim and the high steer arm I had was tapered for the tie rod end it'll work just fine. As for the trails, all full width. I have moonrocks, the con and fordyce all within an hour or so.

If you move your rear axle back an inch or 2 then you will not have to cut into the cab the clear the tires. You have to be wider than 84. Im on 36 x 12.50s and I have an inch of tire in the fender and im 86" wide. I have an 89 xj with D60s its only 6'4". It will only be 6'6-7" with 40s.

My .02

My friend beats the hell out of that truck....

Here are some pics of the "putona"...

http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/attachment.php?attachmentid=45647&stc=1

http://www.jeeperos.com/foros/attachment.php?attachmentid=45642&stc=1

he has it all braced and reinforced, the unibody holds up fine... good luck! :flipoff2:

Thanks but I won't need it. I ran a stock D60 rear welded on 42's with a built sbc and sm465 and never broke a rear shaft. I broke a driveline but never a axle:shaking: If you know how to drive you don't have to worry about breakin' your shit. I wheel like a puss.
The CTM's and alloys I get for cost so again.....:shaking:
The unibody was plated and redone so that is not a problem. And I'm glad you like the blocks, I did them just for you:flipoff2:

In case no one else caught this:flipoff2:

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!

If you move your rear axle back an inch or 2 then you will not have to cut into the cab the clear the tires. You have to be wider than 84. Im on 36 x 12.50s and I have an inch of tire in the fender and im 86" wide. I have an 89 xj with D60s its only 6'4". It will only be 6'6-7" with 40s.

My .02


I do nto see why he would be..

I run 38's on 15x10 rims and I am at 83" wide...
oh ya and I checked I am only 6'6" :)

In case no one else caught this:flipoff2:

thanks jeremy........fawker:flipoff2:

I do nto see why he would be..

I run 38's on 15x10 rims and I am at 83" wide...
oh ya and I checked I am only 6'6" :)

Thank you....again. Yeah, unless my tape is off, it says 84 3/4".

IMO, you should do something different with the tie rod end on the passenger side. Well, I guess you just need to make the tie rod longer...not sure why you didn't. :confused:

I broke mine with only an inch of exposed thread....I can't imagine having much more than that:
http://www.projectxj.com/images/trail.runs/06.24.04-springcreek/images/IMG_4504.jpg

The build looks pretty good though. I'll be anxious to see it out on the trail. Nice job. :smokin:


That sure looks familier...http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/reader-rigs/albums/album128/PC170005.sized.jpg

Hey Rok-Jeep, would you mind getting me a measurement from the ground to the bottom of the driver's front door?

I'm lookin to be running those tires on the next build, and I need to keep that measurement at 30" or less to drive on the street still (NJ DMV regs). TIA

Hey Rok-Jeep, would you mind getting me a measurement from the ground to the bottom of the driver's front door?

I'm lookin to be running those tires on the next build, and I need to keep that measurement at 30" or less to drive on the street still (NJ DMV regs). TIA

The door is an interesting place for them to use as a measurement.

From the ground to the bottom of the door is 34"
From the ground to the bottom of the body is 32"
From the ground to the bottom of the unibody is 28.25"

Well, I still gotta go with a couple of others here-

I'd seriously consider lowering that jeep a bit. I say that for 2 reasons:

First, you're packing your family along on some serious trails. I'd wanna have a low COG for this. I'd feel different if it were a mudbogger, but if your going to be on a variety of trails & off camber stuff...
Yeah, I know your wider, (that's a good thing) but you still have a LOT of lift.
I understand that you feel it's stable. Drop it another 2-4", and you won't believe how much MORE stable it is. It really is a big difference! You don't have that experience to compare to until you try it...

Secondly, Keeping tires from rubbing isn't all about more lift. Sure, it takes a certain amount of lift for a certain tire size, but more lift generally means you just rub LESS OFTEN. Proper bumpstop tuning is the way to PREVENT tire rubbing completely- regardless of how much lift you have. Plus, you could add longer life to your tires, fenders, shocks and springs.

A few years ago, I had a nice XJ with about 6.5" of lift and 33's.:(
I THOUGHT it was pretty stable. I rolled it hard a couple of times with my wife on board. Not a good day.

We're running 35's on 5" of lift on a few of our XJ's nowadays, and the difference in stability is unbelievable! For running 38's on fullwidths, I'd still keep it around 6-7" of lift MAX, with lot's of trimming and proper bumpstopping.
My TJ is on fullwidth D60's and 108" WB with 40" MTR's. I'm running RE 4.5" coils up front.
Talk about stable...:smokin:
It was bigger at first, but I lowered it about 1.5" this year. I like it much better. And yes, it has lot's of flex.

I like your build, and I'm not trying to bag on you. Just some serious food for thought here-

I know too that a lot of people have had no trouble with blocks. I also know a lot of people have. Aside from the general issues associated with blocks, if you must run them, make sure that they are steel, not aluminum. I have personally seen aluminum blocks shatter on the trail.

Oh- and I would also think about some extra gussets on that trackbar bracket. My TJ has a tall bracket, similar to that, and it cracked along the welds. I added some gusseting on the back side and all is well now.

Keep us posted!

Well, I still gotta go with a couple of others here-

I'd seriously consider lowering that jeep a bit. I say that for 2 reasons:

First, you're packing your family along on some serious trails. I'd wanna have a low COG for this. Keep us posted!


I think everyone missed the whole "Front springs are BRAND NEW" when the front springs settle down it's gonna be just fine. The pics and the fact that it doesnt' have bumpers on it make it look big. You gotta remember this sucker still fits in a regular old home garage door. How many built TJ's out there can do that?? And they aren't anywhere near as wide as Goeffs rig.

I think everyone missed the whole "Front springs are BRAND NEW" when the front springs settle down it's gonna be just fine. The pics and the fact that it doesnt' have bumpers on it make it look big. You gotta remember this sucker still fits in a regular old home garage door. How many built TJ's out there can do that?? And they aren't anywhere near as wide as Goeffs rig.

I think we need to take a few pics of us standing next to it for size reference. Those first pics must be deceiving. It's not that tall. And as Glo will attest to, this is half the size of my old rig that was on 42's:D

Ok so get your ass off the fawkin PC and go finish it up!!! I'm thinkin we need a (secret place) run in the very near future!!!
I MISS NV!!!

I think everyone missed the whole "Front springs are BRAND NEW" when the front springs settle down it's gonna be just fine. The pics and the fact that it doesnt' have bumpers on it make it look big. You gotta remember this sucker still fits in a regular old home garage door. How many built TJ's out there can do that?? And they aren't anywhere near as wide as Goeffs rig.
You said "Discuss and flame away". I guess a little constructive criticism was not what you wanted to hear.:grinpimp:

It's a free country and it's your jeep. Just adding in some discussion you asked for. BTW, not tootin' my own horn here, but I'm about as familiar with RE products and XJ's as anyone around here. That's our bread & butter. I think I can read about an XJ and see from some pics how big it really is. I've long ago lost count on how many XJ's we've built. Whether it will fit under a 6-11" garage door has never been the test for me. RE 7.5" coils, 2" spacers and your custom coil mounts just make for a big jeep. No way around it.

BTW, your XJ on 38's is almost a foot taller than ours on 35's. Considering appx 1.5" overall height difference for the tires, that's still almost 10" taller. That's substantial.
Springs will settle a little bit and adding some bumpers should help bring it down a bit more. Again, no problem here. I just PERSONALLY wouldn't wanna be that tall. Again, power to ya, if you wanna be that tall. No way you can tell me that it wouldn't be much more stable at about 4" lower though. That's all I'm tryin' to say!

BTW- my TJ on 40's will fit under your 6'-11" garage door- even with the soft top on. I'm about 84-85" wide. That's not what I'd call narrow!
Your 85" width is a good thing. I don't think I'd wanna be wider either. It would be really hard to fit on some tight trails past that point.

I do like it though. We're gonna be building some rear bumpers for our rigs that work with the cut off lower rear quarters. I'm interested to see how you build yours. Carry on!

BTW, your XJ on 38's is almost a foot taller than ours on 35's. Considering appx 1.5" overall height difference for the tires, that's still almost 10" taller.

Um, maybe I'm just not thinking straight here but wouldn't that be like you LOWERED a stock XJ about a half inch and shoved 35's under it since Geoffs XJ has about 9.5" of lift?

Oh, and I have seen a lot of rigs out there running 4" blocks with no problem. The PBB bandwagon is soooooo big!

Um, maybe I'm just not thinking straight here but wouldn't that be like you LOWERED a stock XJ about a half inch and shoved 35's under it since Geoffs XJ has about 9.5" of lift?

Oh, and I have seen a lot of rigs out there running 4" blocks with no problem. The PBB bandwagon is soooooo big!

Thanks Jimmy, it will be done verrrrryyyy soon then we'll be ready to rock I need to find this "secret" spot. Hey my XJ will almost fit under your TJ huh??? I know it would have fit under the rear of my old CJ:flipoff2: Remember how we had to get it out of your garage. Pull the stems on the 42's and ratchet strap the frame down to the alxes.:laughing: :laughing:

The comments are just that comments. I built it how I wanted it. I like a lot of flex(which I will see flex out this afternooon) and I've cut the fenders as far as I want to so I needed a few more inches in lift than a 5-6" lift. Standing next to the heep, the hood hits me mid-chest and I'm 5'10". So yes that is big for an XJ I agree which is why I kept the axles full width for stability but not its not big by my standards. My old CJ used to hit mid windshield pulling into my garage.

Um, maybe I'm just not thinking straight here but wouldn't that be like you LOWERED a stock XJ about a half inch and shoved 35's under it since Geoffs XJ has about 9.5" of lift?

Oh, and I have seen a lot of rigs out there running 4" blocks with no problem. The PBB bandwagon is soooooo big!
Nah- Our XJ's are running about 5" of lift.
Here's a couple of pics of the wifeys XJ:
http://www.dpgoffroad.com/images/DohXJ35aweb.jpg
http://www.dpgoffroad.com/images/Robyn'sXJ.jpg
That's what I was talking about earlier- his rig has more than 9.5" of actual lift. RE coils on that jeep (without bumpers, etc) will sit taller than 7.5", plus the spacers, plus the custom coil mounts will add more lift than it would have on a stock D30. It's a big jeep. You can see from the pics that our jeep is not stock- it's pretty proportionate for 35's.
We've lowered all of our jeeps this year. Just 1.5" to 2" really made a noticable difference. We all ran bigger lifts previously, and we all had experiences like the previous pics in this post. Flops, lifted tires, tippy rides, etc were pretty common. The jeeps feel much more stable now, and are more confident and fun to drive. My wife used to be scared to drive her XJ on the trail, because it felt so tippy. She loves it now. Many of the obstacles that used to be scary feel much better now.
My focus in the last couple of years has been lower height, firmer spring rates and wider stance.
Just something to file away in the food for thought bin.

I don't know what material those blocks are made of. I've just seen aluminum blocks fail one several occasions. BTW- they were all just fine until they shattered...
I think it depends on which leafs and what vehicles we're talking about too.
Some XJ leafs don't like blocks as well as some other vehicles.

i personally don't think he sits all that tall. To each his own. I know that my cherokee has about 9 inches of lift and it has never been rolled not saying it is possible. If he ever adds a cage it is going to sink a little more.
just my .02

The door is an interesting place for them to use as a measurement.

From the ground to the bottom of the door is 34"
From the ground to the bottom of the body is 32"
From the ground to the bottom of the unibody is 28.25"

Thanks.

They use the door because it's an easy-to-find line on the vehicle, easy to measure to, and also goes up regardless of what you do to lift it. They have a listing somewhere for all trucks and the 'stock' height to the bottom of the door, from which depending on your weight class, you're allowed a certain amount of total lift after that (including suspension, tires, etc).

I'm in the 4501-7999 GVWR class, which means I can have 9" total over stock. They measure the stock height of an XJ to be 21" to the door according to their list. They're supposed to use the biggest available vehicle for your model year, which I guess would be an upcountry edition.

Given that 21" is stock, they measured mine at 24.5" on my current build. So apparently I'm only 3.5" over stock, on 33's and 4" lift or so. :laughing:

http://www.tcnj.edu/~macock2/stuff/nf6.jpg

This state sucks for a lot of reasons, but apparently they're somewhat kind towards XJs. Go figure.

So given that I'll be a little lower than you, and since I have to use 36s for inspection purposes, I don't think 30" is that unreasonable. Good deal.

the XJ looks good. cherokee's are hard to beat for a good family wheeler. there's nothing like leather and AC when you're rolling down a really dusty trail when its 105* outside!

on that note, i'm going to have to agree with everyone else here and say you should really lower it. i have an almost identical setup and i'm running RE 4.5" ZJ coils and my 38's fit just fine. that about 4" lower than you! i flopped with 5" and 35's. with fullwidths, 38's and ~8" lift it still makes me nervous sometimes. and you better get those alloys and ctm's soon. i've broken a front 44 shaft or joint almost every time!

not trying to dis you, just some more comments. hope you don't take offense. i'm also running blocks. i've had no problems with them. my traction bar controls spring wrap and flat springs flex better.

matthew

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any new pics of those rad arms in action?

It Looks Good Man The Only Thing Im Going To Say Is That That Tracbar Mount Is Huge It Looks Like When You Flex Its Gunna Gun Into The Pan Or Something Just Watch Out I Woulda Made It A Little Longer And The Mount Lower But Thats Just Me

It Looks Good Man The Only Thing Im Going To Say Is That That Tracbar Mount Is Huge It Looks Like When You Flex Its Gunna Gun Into The Pan Or Something Just Watch Out I Woulda Made It A Little Longer And The Mount Lower But Thats Just Me

I would have but you have to keep it parallel with the drag link to avoid bump steer and as it is now its as long as I could make it. As you can see it right against the coil, I couldn't make it any longer. As far the the oil pan goes there is plenty of room.

I'm looking into flipping the rear springs around, as it is now when I flexed it out the other day the rear tire stuffed into the body by the door hard. I'm not going to put a fuel cel in the back, so I'll have to see if I have enough room to do it or not.

any new pics of those rad arms in action?

Not yet but I will get some for you. I flexed it out the other day but the rear brake line is too short and the rear tires stuff up into the body and are tearing it up, I think I'm going to end up flipping my rear springs around.

more pics of the "testing"

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222513&stc=1&d=1136333882

Hitting the body in the front of the rear fender wheel. MORE SAWZALL!!!!!!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222514&stc=1&d=1136333882


Height shot (TOO TALL :flipoff2: :laughing: ) Next to an older XJ with 3" lift that's well broken in, and 50% tread generic 33" mud terains.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222515&stc=1&d=1136333882

Crikey that thing is big..


Hey Glow, I'll be up in Carson on the 17th, Want a free lunch?
:D

In that second flex shot the rear brake line acted like a limit strap and is way too short. The front hadn't even started to work yet. The left rear tire stuffed way far into the body, I'm either going to have to flip the springs or cut into the door-jam. I'll have to see.

Some were asking for X-member pics and some better pics of the arm mounts and the arms themselves. Glo and I took them tonight and he'll get them up tomorrow.

Sorry it took me so long to get the pics up, I've had a shitty 1st day back from vacation.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222644&stc=1&d=1136398052

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222645&stc=1&d=1136398052

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222646&stc=1&d=1136398052

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222647&stc=1&d=1136398052

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222648&stc=1&d=1136398052

more pics

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222649&stc=1&d=1136398177

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222650&stc=1&d=1136398177

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222651&stc=1&d=1136398177

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222652&stc=1&d=1136398177

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222653&stc=1&d=1136398177

and the last of them

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222654&stc=1&d=1136398270

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222655&stc=1&d=1136398270

more pics


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222652&stc=1&d=1136398177



This tie rod is just temporary I have a longer one ready to go in, I mismeasured this one the first time and it was too short.

more pics


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222653&stc=1&d=1136398177



Just one more for the block lovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris, thanks for putting those up for me.

I think once yo get a front bumper on that XJ it will not look so tall..

I think once yo get a front bumper on that XJ it will not look so tall..

I think so too. But money will dictate the fabrication of that. At least I mounted the driving lights straight....finally:D

so how many bolts hold your tranny/radius arm crossmember on?

more pics



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=222650&stc=1&d=1136398177


might wanna turn those zerks the other way. mine lasted one trip in the down position:flipoff2:

Dang...two bolts on either side? Guess I don't have to worry about mine then...three 1/2" grade-8s and two 3/8" grade-8s on each side.

http://www.phatserver.net/users/chris/la/lafinal%20010.jpg

http://www.phatserver.net/users/chris/la/lafinal%20014.jpg

I got lots of criticism about mine hanging too low, but I think yours beats it by a little bit...however I don't think it's as much of a problem for you. :flipoff2:

Great pics. Its great to see threads like this.:smokin:

so how many bolts hold your tranny/radius arm crossmember on?

Right now there is two on either side but the addition of the belly pan and traction bar x-member will add 4 more to each side and that will also be tied into existing x-member as well.

might wanna turn those zerks the other way. mine lasted one trip in the down position:flipoff2:

:laughing: I realized after I welded the joint to the tubing the hole for the zerk was facing down. I just have to remove it, tack it shut and redrill a hole on top for it. The other side is right though.

Looks really good Geoff. I wish I could have come out and looked at it in person. For all those that are skeptic about the blocks, don't worry he CRAAAAZY glued them in place. As for it being too tall. If you knew Geoff you would know that deep inside he loves BIG Jeeps and would probably like it to be even bigger :P
Stay safe buddy

Looks really good Geoff. I wish I could have come out and looked at it in person. For all those that are skeptic about the blocks, don't worry he CRAAAAZY glued them in place. As for it being too tall. If you knew Geoff you would know that deep inside he loves BIG Jeeps and would probably like it to be even bigger :P
Stay safe buddy

Thanks Todd, I'll have to catch you next time. As far as the heep goes....you know I like them big. Did that sound gay?????????:laughing:

Hey, what do you have to do to weld tube onto the stock radius arms? I mean i am thinking of getting some arms made like those, Arent the arms cast so would you have to use a high nickel rod then go back over the welds or what.
Side note i am no welder, but my buddy is and im just asking to be asking.

Hey, what do you have to do to weld tube onto the stock radius arms? I mean i am thinking of getting some arms made like those, Arent the arms cast so would you have to use a high nickel rod then go back over the welds or what.
Side note i am no welder, but my buddy is and im just asking to be asking.

What I did was clean the area to be welded real well with a sanding disc, then I pre-heated the arm before I welded it. I used a Miller 220, cranked it up and burned the shit out of it when I welded it. I got it as hot as I could and as much penetration as possible with the weld. There is alot of weld surface too. Along the top of the arm is about 10" of weld and the bottom at least 12". We'll see if it lasts but I don't think I'm going to have a problem.

what kind, size, and thickness of tube did you use on the arms?

I used 1.75" x .250 wall DOM for the arms.

I used 1.75" x .250 wall DOM for the arms.

And it took 2 of us to notch the tube and the arm enough to interlock together before welding. That sucker ain't going no where now! :grinpimp:

And it took 2 of us to notch the tube and the arm enough to interlock together before welding. That sucker ain't going no where now! :grinpimp:

They were fun fitting them together. Nice and tight......and the sledge helped a little.

Fawkin looks good. Keep up with the pics your giving me more and more ideas.:smokin:

Any updates?.............bumpers on now??.............Love this thing and want to so badly do the same to my xj, but I guess I will have to wait.-----------Kyle:)

Kind of looks like the one I helped with....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171688

Kind of looks like the one I helped with....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171688

you know I actually printed out a pic of that XJ when it was for sale and told GloNDark I wanted to buy it. then when I built mine it does look very similar.....funny:D




Oh and no new updates yet except for a rear shock hoop they are run like this /\. I'll get bumpers on someday. I have a trip planned on saturday so we'll see how it does.

Keep us updated and get some pics. My cherokee on 35s dreams of growing up to be like yours---------Kyle

Kind of looks like the one I helped with....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171688

That was Pete's old XJ. It has gone through a ton of changes since those pics before he owned it. It now has tons of tube work, rockers, bumpers, no doors or hatch, hydro assist, some suspention changes, and paint (neon green suspention.....?). He sold it for about 4k when he was done with it.

yea i know its an old thread but its still pretty cool.

Pretty cool,any updates on it?.

I should let Geoff reply but I'm killing time work so.....
I know he has added an internal cage and flipped the rear springs. Other than that he will have to chime in.

man im thinkin of builden an xj got one found with re 4.5 lift and 33s but im going to run waggy 44s and 37s man i love this rig and i think thats just the right height!

ohh and im talkin to my local shop and they said its hard to get the steering to work out right, did you by a kit or is it all custom?

I should let Geoff reply but I'm killing time work so.....
I know he has added an internal cage and flipped the rear springs. Other than that he will have to chime in.

Yup, I was over there yesterday. The rear spring flip looks killer. He got his driveshaft back yesterday and was installing it. A few brake line mods for the back and it's time to build up some bumpers. :D

ohh and im talkin to my local shop and they said its hard to get the steering to work out right, did you by a kit or is it all custom?

As far as what?

The box I believe is stock, with a drop arm. The Drag link is custom, the crossover arm is just a dana 44 raised arm. And the hydro assist is all PSC (I have the same kit on my cruiser, it's awesome)

he told me its hard to get your drag link and track bar angle right but it can be done if its custom!

do you think this is out of my league?

this is the second jeep that ive built

I'm pretty sure it has an RE drop bracket for the track bar with a custom mount on the axle and a custom track bar. Glow is right about the steering. The angles on the trac bar and drag link are dead on and the Jeep rides like a gem on the trail.

Geoff, Where are you???? Chime in any time so he can hear it first hand and get accurate info.

I should let Geoff reply but I'm killing time work so.....
I know he has added an internal cage and flipped the rear springs. Other than that he will have to chime in.
Yeah get him to post up with some pics of the rear flip.

Here I am....hello:D I don't have access to the pics right now but I will post a link to some pics. The pics are from this summer on the Con and some cage pics as well as the rear spring flip. I'll put up some pics when I get home.

As far as the steering and trac bar they are custom. I used 2"x.250 wall DOM with 1 ton TRE's for the tie rod, a 5/8 rod end on the drag link (only because I have a Skyjacker exteme drop pitman arm that was drilled out for a 5/8" bolt. I have a sky mfg 1" raised high steer arm. The trac bar is made of 2"x.250 wall DOM with 5/8" rod ends, a Rubicon Express trac bar bracket and a custom axle bracket that I fabbed up. There is a good pic of my steering and trac bar set up in the tread below.

http://www.reno4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5284

These are in the members rigs section, you may have to register on the site to see the thread. But its another cool 4x4 site.

Right now there is two on either side but the addition of the belly pan and traction bar x-member will add 4 more to each side and that will also be tied into existing x-member as well.

I am VERY scared about your suspention being mounted only on the stock holes...

ive ripped 2 of thoes factory nuts thru the frame rail just from having my tranny on that stock x-member and dragging that xmember across rocks...

duuuude - get on that "adding more attachment points" shit...

I am VERY scared about your suspention being mounted only on the stock holes...

ive ripped 2 of thoes factory nuts thru the frame rail just from having my tranny on that stock x-member and dragging that xmember across rocks...

duuuude - get on that "adding more attachment points" shit...

That's old....that was just for mock-up. I welded the shit out of it. The uni-body rails are rosette welded in 14 spots, stitch welded every 6 inches and have 4-3/4" grade 8 bolts through it. The x-member is welded to the new 1/4 unibody rails so it will not be coming off without tearing the heep in half.

Believe me, I left the bolts in there and went to play one afternoon just for fun and ripped them out. The front axle tried to walk away from me:D

Here are a few pics of the rear, the first is of the rear without being cut yet, ther other two of the teardrop cut I did on the other side. I like the look better then the usual comp cut, though I can still do it if I need to.

I was curious how much you stretched the rear? and how did you mod your fuel tank to clear the diff? It looks good stretched out. Also what rear leafs are you using?

-Nich

did you just flip the springs?

I moved the rear axle back just about 8 inches. Right now the W/B sits at just under 113". The fuel tank is still in the stock location for now but I'm going to have to move it up into the back of the heep. I was planning on just building a bumpstop for the tank. It has a 1/4 skidplate that I had a mount designed off it that would mate up with the top of the diff but after a recent snow run with no load in the back I realized the tank will have to move up. I have to redo the inner fenders anyway so I'll do it all at the same time. Oh well. I had moved the front forward a few inches when I built it before.

The rear packs are custom Nation Spring 10 leaf packs.

Yes, I just flopped the springs around and got the wheelbase out of them. I have not even touched the traction bar I had from an old project. I'll be using it on this. Right now its just a few snow runs so I don't really have any axle wrap issues but I'll have it done for this spring/summer when the rocks come back out to play. (With our shitty Sierra snowpack that may be sooner then we think)

And I still have to put in my new steel taillight housing....Thanks Fullsize XJ Gear!! And I think its going to be redone in OD green soon.

I'm a fan of OD Green :) But I love a White Jeep. If mine was White from the get go it would of stayed, not a fan of black really.
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Well the jeep went on a diet tonight. I need to change the back of the cage but for now it will stay until I get some tube.

more......

looks much better already....hell your inspiring me to do the same...

Yep, gotta love the open style. :grinpimp:

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/030207/DSC01574.JPG

Any idea what you're doing for the back of yours yet?

Yep, gotta love the open style. :grinpimp:

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/030207/DSC01574.JPG

Any idea what you're doing for the back of yours yet?

Actually I downloaded a pic of yours and I was going to copy the cage design. I like the comanche tailgate how hard was that?

Wasn't all that bad to get to where it is now...the hardest part was copying it on the other side.

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020607/DSC01460.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01464.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01465.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01486.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020807/DSC01511.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/031107/DSC01593.JPG

more here:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=906877

Now comes the fun part of filling/sanding/painting etc. Not looking forward to that.

Wasn't all that bad to get to where it is now...the hardest part was copying it on the other side.

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020607/DSC01460.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01464.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01465.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01486.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020807/DSC01511.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/031107/DSC01593.JPG

more here:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=906877

Now comes the fun part of filling/sanding/painting etc. Not looking forward to that.

That is really impressive, it looks like you really took your time and it shows. I'll check out the naxja site too. Thanks.

Thanks!

And it even works, too. :)

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/021007/DSC01531.JPG

I know you are running 15x10 steels but I was wondering the back spacing on them. I am going to be doing the same build as you over the summer and I am not looking to go quite as wide as you.

thanks

I know you are running 15x10 steels but I was wondering the back spacing on them. I am going to be doing the same build as you over the summer and I am not looking to go quite as wide as you.

thanks

They are 2.75" backspacing, I wanted mine wide because I knew it was going to be tall. I wanted the stability.

They are 2.75" backspacing, I wanted mine wide because I knew it was going to be tall. I wanted the stability.

Wow, guess you got me beat then. I'm at 81.5" wide on 16x8 wheels and 39.5x13.5 Iroks. Wheels are just stock GM factory stamped steel w/outer beadlocks added.

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/031107/DSC01597.JPG

What's the overall width on yours?

Wow, guess you got me beat then. I'm at 81.5" wide on 16x8 wheels and 39.5x13.5 Iroks. Wheels are just stock GM factory stamped steel w/outer beadlocks added.

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/031107/DSC01597.JPG

What's the overall width on yours?

Eyeballing the tapemeasure on mine looks to be around 88". That makes sense because the deck on my trailer is 86" and it hangs over a little on each side.

Holy crap...that'd be like moving my tires almost to the outer edge of the flares I've got now. :laughing:

Cool though, I got these beadlock wheels and tires as a set for a killer deal, so in the future I may stretch it out a little bit more...

Holy crap...that'd be like moving my tires almost to the outer edge of the flares I've got now. :laughing:

Cool though, I got these beadlock wheels and tires as a set for a killer deal, so in the future I may stretch it out a little bit more...

My front tires are completely out of the fenders by a few inches. I wanted it wide and I definately got it wide. I really need a HPD60 for it soon. Know anyone with one lying around?

I was wondering how you did the Radius arms. Did you just just the stock arem and weld on the DOM then just slap on an RE flex joint on?

new paint and bumper pics

that bumper is kick ass do you have any pics of it being built

looks like a hansen bumper

Looks like a Durango 4x4 bumper.
Any plans for a front 60 or is the 44 holding up?

Looks like a Durango 4x4 bumper.
Any plans for a front 60 or is the 44 holding up?

It is a Durango bumper...and I paid $100 for it brand new on a pallet still wrapped in bubblewrap:D

I broke the short side stub clean off at the yoke a few trips ago. I was happy it lasted over a year. I'd love to do a 60 and a R.E. style 4 link but I don't have the funds for it right now. I replaced it with another spicer stock stub.

Found some old wheelin' pics from Moonrocks here in Nv. These are from before I cut the top and repainted it.

I'm redoing the front suspension with a 3 link and getting rid of the radius arms. I had to get a new front axle housing since I spun the driver side tube 7* back when I broke one of my radius arms on this summer.

I'm going to be lowering it 2" and cutting the front fenders more too.

Get 'er done!!!!

So whatever happened to this thing man? Did you end up finding a HPD60? R.E. 4 Link? 3 Link it? I dig the avatar would like to know how its turned out lol

I'm sure he will chime in with updates but in the meantime here are some Rubicon pics of it.

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Thanks CT for the pics.

I actually got it done a few years ago and have wheeled it in the state above for a while with no problems. I kept the HPD44 and have only broken a few shafts.

I ended up doing an R.E. style radius arm on the driver side and one long lower on the passenger side. 2"x.250 Chromo lowers with a DOM upper. I'll post up more pics of it.

It is actually down right now. I'm doing boatsides and a new cage. I cut the rest of the top and windshield off. I've got pics of the cut rockers I'll post in a few minutes.

My avatar is from the August issue of JP mag. There was a 4 page feature on my jeep in it and it made the cover too. I was stoked.

When I get more of the boatsides and cage done, I'm going to start a new thread. I was going to finish it first then post the pics.

These are some Con pics from this summer and a few from a local comp called Reno Rocks in 09'

Here are some pics in its current state. The seam was cut with an air hammer so they hadn't been cleaned up yet.

I did the all of the previous build and fab work myself. I'm having a local shop Dr. Smash in Carson City do the cage for me. It is going to be a DOM/HREW combo. The HREW will mostly be the door spreader etc. While we were designing the cage, I decided to boatside it and the A and B pillars will be built off the boatsides. The sweet thing is Eric (the owner) is letting me come down to the shop and help do the work on it.

I feel like you're missing something....haha

Looks awesome man.

Sweeeet, I'm gonna be passing through Carson City tomorrow hauling a load from Sparks down to Fontana would LOVE to check it out if you have any free time during the day. I'll PM you my contact info if your free feel free to give me a call man. ~DJ

bad ass jeep man cant wait to see the finished project

any updates on this? i remember seeing this on the cover of jp..looks good

The boatsides are almost done and the new cage is next. The A and B pillars are going to be built off the boatsides so they have to get done first. I plan on starting a new thread when I get more updates and pics.

The boatsides are almost done and the new cage is next. The A and B pillars are going to be built off the boatsides so they have to get done first. I plan on starting a new thread when I get more updates and pics.



wow this thread was stagnet for a couple years...



Sounds intense cant wait for the new thread. I went and read everything from post one. A little late but grats on the Jp cover. This rig has potential. Throw up some teasers of your top cut and your nowgone windshield.

There are some about 4 posts up. I'll put up some pics of the boatsides tonight

There are some about 4 posts up. I'll put up some pics of the boatsides tonight


ooops your right. my internent was a bitch and showed them as dead linkss


i like :eek:

I got that issue of JP when it came out and liked your xj so much i hung it on my wall. :mr-t:

I got that issue of JP when it came out and liked your xj so much i hung it on my wall. :mr-t:

Thanks bud!!!:smokin:

Here are some pics of the boatsides. I will get better pics up soon and start the new thread when I get more done.

Nice, looks good. I was curious as to how you're going to do the boatsides. Subscribed.

Oh wow...crazy, I still got the jeep mag with the article about this jeep in it one of my favorite xjs. I'm sure it will turn out great! Currently I'm building longarms and swapping to d44 and 9in uder my xj.

Oh wow...crazy, I still got the jeep mag with the article about this jeep in it one of my favorite xjs. I'm sure it will turn out great! Currently I'm building longarms and swapping to d44 and 9in uder my xj.

Thanks for the props. I just went on Friday and we measured for the new cage. It is going to be sick!!!!! Like I said before when there is more progress and I have more pics, I'll start a new thread.

Stay tuned.......

Well?

Well?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=953563&highlight=

I started a new thread with the new cage and boatsides. Forgot about this thread.

She's changed quite a bit since the inital build I think.............

updated pics added above....

Wow looks good, thanks for the link. I don't tend to troll through the forums so that's the only way i'da found it.

Looks good man!